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Old 08-25-2004   #1
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If bush would stop trying to talk over him and discuss issues.

debates should be very good.
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Grimm I hope you remember this next year around tax time if Kerry is elected.

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Grimm I hope you remember this next year around tax time if Kerry is elected.

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I will make more money with Bush in power, however I would also have to hear "Michael Moore type" whining/arguments for 4 more years...

Ofcourse I could buy some earplugs with some of the extra money...
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Mike, it doesn't matter WHO gets elected, your taxes will go up. The question is when. "tax and spend" liberals are at least way more easy to figure that the "spend anyway" conservatives that create all the debt.

Tax cuts and spending increases together are not exactly a good way to balance the books. You didn't get all this for free, you just haven't gotten the bill yet.

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Grimm I hope you remember this next year around tax time if Kerry is elected.

i dont vote with my wallet


he state of the union is not to be bought and sold by the income group most effected by tax cuts. The people that benefitted from the tax cut are the minority. Middle income families saw tax hikes, lower income families, no change at all.

A paradigm shift of where the money comes from will not effect my vote. Whomever will provide the agenda for a better America will. Who knows who that will be.

My point was, what do we have to vote on? has anything REALLY been said that isnt blind, sloganesque rhetoric?
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Mike, it doesn't matter WHO gets elected, your taxes will go up. The question is when. "tax and spend" liberals are at least way more easy to figure that the "spend anyway" conservatives that create all the debt.

Tax cuts and spending increases together are not exactly a good way to balance the books. You didn't get all this for free, you just haven't gotten the bill yet.

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this is of course, true. Debt is debt, just so happens one party has historically run up the bill, and left the other party to pick up the check.

hence tax and spend.

i the situation were reversed, it would be the same.
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Mike, it doesn't matter WHO gets elected, your taxes will go up. The question is when. "tax and spend" liberals are at least way more easy to figure that the "spend anyway" conservatives that create all the debt.

Tax cuts and spending increases together are not exactly a good way to balance the books. You didn't get all this for free, you just haven't gotten the bill yet.

Alex

Alex can you send me a photo of your economics diploma?

I don't think you understand basic macro econimics.



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I will make more money with Bush in power, however I would also have to hear "Michael Moore type" whining/arguments for 4 more years...

Ofcourse I could buy some earplugs with some of the extra money...
I stad to take a huge hit if taxes go up. But like hi father. Bush Jr. will HAVE to raise them.


so i don't think taxes are going to be any sort of lynchpin, im already dreading the fat that whomeer gets elected, in 2006, my tax bill will go up proportionally.


Another thing, Republicans get on Dems about Big government projects, social programs, government work projects, when the biggest government project in terms of spending is the military. It isnt apples and oranges, its apples of a different color. Its cyclical, and just mudslinging on both parties.

To party systems are going to move in circles for eternity.
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Grimm you are right about both parties becoming the same.

At the end the the day there is less and less difference between the Republicans and the Democrats....

Not much choice at all....

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Grimm you are right about both parties becoming the same.

At the end the the day there is less and less difference between the Republicans and the Democrats....

Not much choice at all....

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Democracy went out the window the day the GOP and the DNC became the bullies of politics.
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Serge, please remember I am not retired - my money comes from INCOME. Thus munnies do me do good.
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I've been outvoted by my wife
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we'll have to include you too now
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Someone in the family with taste!!

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At least with Kerry in the Whitehouse and a republican controlled congress, we can go back to gridlock...I always seemed to make more money when gridlock was afoot
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