If bush would stop trying to talk over him and discuss issues.

debates should be very good.

Grimm I hope you remember this next year around tax time if Kerry is elected.

:huh:

buy munies and worry not about taxes
;-)))

and MikeAI, look at the bright side,
Ashcroft can make your taxes go to ZERO
;-))))

buy munies and worry not about taxes
;-)))

and MikeAI, look at the bright side,
Ashcroft can make your taxes go to ZERO
;-)))) [/b][/quote]


Serge, please remember I am not retired - my money comes from INCOME. Thus munnies do me do good.

As far as Ashcroft, I am confident I will be able to stay in the adult business for as long as I choose. My adult income is growing this year, however it will total less then 30% of my entire income for 2004. I imgaine this trend will continue for me. Big money is in mainstream!

So I 4 words for you.

GIVE ME MORE BUSH!

:D

I will make more money with Bush in power, however I would also have to hear "Michael Moore type" whining/arguments for 4 more years... :nyanya:

Ofcourse I could buy some earplugs with some of the extra money... :rolleyes:

Mike, it doesn't matter WHO gets elected, your taxes will go up. The question is when. "tax and spend" liberals are at least way more easy to figure that the "spend anyway" conservatives that create all the debt.

Tax cuts and spending increases together are not exactly a good way to balance the books. You didn't get all this for free, you just haven't gotten the bill yet.

Alex

i dont vote with my wallet:)


he state of the union is not to be bought and sold by the income group most effected by tax cuts. The people that benefitted from the tax cut are the minority. Middle income families saw tax hikes, lower income families, no change at all.

A paradigm shift of where the money comes from will not effect my vote. Whomever will provide the agenda for a better America will. Who knows who that will be.

My point was, what do we have to vote on? has anything REALLY been said that isnt blind, sloganesque rhetoric?

this is of course, true. Debt is debt, just so happens one party has historically run up the bill, and left the other party to pick up the check.

hence tax and spend.

i the situation were reversed, it would be the same.

Alex can you send me a photo of your economics diploma? :o

I don't think you understand basic macro econimics.



:lol: :lol:

I stad to take a huge hit if taxes go up. But like hi father. Bush Jr. will HAVE to raise them.


so i don't think taxes are going to be any sort of lynchpin, im already dreading the fat that whomeer gets elected, in 2006, my tax bill will go up proportionally.


Another thing, Republicans get on Dems about Big government projects, social programs, government work projects, when the biggest government project in terms of spending is the military. It isnt apples and oranges, its apples of a different color. Its cyclical, and just mudslinging on both parties.

To party systems are going to move in circles for eternity.

i dont vote with my wallet:)


he state of the union is not to be bought and sold by the income group most effected by tax cuts. The people that benefitted from the tax cut are the minority. Middle income families saw tax hikes, lower income families, no change at all.

A paradigm shift of where the money comes from will not effect my vote. Whomever will provide the agenda for a better America will. Who knows who that will be.

My point was, what do we have to vote on? has anything REALLY been said that isnt blind, sloganesque rhetoric? [/b][/quote]


Grimm where do you get this information???

The middle andd lowerclasses got more % of money back then the "wealthiest 1%" ( Which you fall into Poncho).

Bush did right on the tax cuts, he just tried to our democrat the democrats by giving more gov't handouts.....

Grimm, I hope you have a mop handy your bleeding heart is starting to leak a little....

:lol: :lol:

Grimm you are right about both parties becoming the same.

At the end the the day there is less and less difference between the Republicans and the Democrats....

Not much choice at all....

:angry:

Alex can you send me a photo of your economics diploma? :o

I don't think you understand basic macro econimics.



:lol: :lol: [/b][/quote]
Mike, every system will reach a pooint of equilibrium, it is the only way for the system to survive. Economic systems are the same way. Its all weightsand measures. If there is too much debt, the scales are tipped by taxes. If there is too much surplus, that money is used to better the nation, causing debt. Its the cycle of equilibrium. A fundamental argument of Macroeconomics

Democracy went out the window the day the GOP and the DNC became the bullies of politics.

Grimm where do you get this information???

The middle andd lowerclasses got more % of money back then the "wealthiest 1%" ( Which you fall into Poncho).

Bush did right on the tax cuts, he just tried to our democrat the democrats by giving more gov't handouts.....

Grimm, I hope you have a mop handy your bleeding heart is starting to leak a little....

:lol: :lol: [/b][/quote]
The middle majority saw anegligible tax cut. The lower Majority saw taxes increase from 15 to 18%. The upper crust saw a decline of 9%

I am NOT retired,
I am employed,
I have a job,
I am searching for a meaning of life....this is a FULL TIME employment with no end in sight....Ashecroft or not
;-))))

stop counting OPM

;-))))

I am NOT retired,
I am employed,
I have a job,
I am searching for a meaning of life....this is a FULL TIME employment with no end in sight....Ashecroft or not
;-)))) [/b][/quote]


Serge, I admire this greatly!!

Katie and I look forward to doing some searching with you!!

Serge, I admire this greatly!!

Katie and I look forward to doing some searching with you!! [/b][/quote]
Sorry, Mike, but you are overqualified!
;-))

we'll have to settle on Katie alone
;-))))

P.S.
I've been outvoted by my wife
;-(
(Democracy my ass!!!!)

we'll have to include you too now
;-((((

stop counting OPM

;-)))) [/b][/quote]
*yawn*

i appreciated the break, thats for sure

Someone in the family with taste!!

:-)

Explanation and Legal Disclaimer:
In no way I was trying to imply that Democracy and my ass are sinonymous!

Oh baby, oh baby, oh Baby!!!

:D :D

Someone in the family with taste!!

:-) [/b][/quote]
Taste my ass!

Explanation and Legal Disclaimer:
this is NOT a bona fide proposal!
;-))))

Explanation and Legal Disclaimer:
this is NOT a bona fide proposal!
;-)))) [/b][/quote]
Grimm,
do NOT take it on your acount,
'cuz in your case it IS!
;-))))

Grimm,
do NOT take it on your acount,
'cuz in your case it IS!
;-)))) [/b][/quote]
ill pass, never did like the taste of latex;)

Serge,

Thought you'd found a new dish to try...

ill pass, never did like the taste of latex;) [/b][/quote]
Grimm,
you gotta try it with 1986 Mascarello Barolo! It has a long lasting finish, longer than mouth wash!
;-))))

that should go well with D'Alba 1998 Barolo
\;-))))

Serge, please remember I am not retired - my money comes from INCOME. Thus munnies do me do good.

As far as Ashcroft, I am confident I will be able to stay in the adult business for as long as I choose. My adult income is growing this year, however it will total less then 30% of my entire income for 2004. I imgaine this trend will continue for me. Big money is in mainstream!

So I 4 words for you.

GIVE ME MORE BUSH!

:D [/b][/quote]
And (heaven forbid, as they say) should the DOJ in 2005 find some little free site you built and totally forgot about over on Spunk Money or something way back in 1997 and demands to see the model papers .... you'll suddenly be wishing you'd voted for Kerry.

At least with Kerry in the Whitehouse and a republican controlled congress, we can go back to gridlock...I always seemed to make more money when gridlock was afoot

:pearl: