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by marksfriggin: "He went on to say that this Senator from Kansas by the name of Brownback, wrote a letter to Mel Karmazin and asked him why he hasn't taken Howard off the air yet. This is a guy who Howard claims, lives with some other politicians in a million dollar townhouse that's paid for by a religious organization. Howard said that this is disturbing to him and anyone living in a place like that has to bow to the pressure of the group. Howard said that the name of the group is The Fellowship. He read an article and said that these guys are out of control. They are in congress and in the senate. He said that the house is valued at $1.1 million and the people living there pay just $600 a month for rent. Howard said that the religious organization is actually the C Street Center which is part of The Fellowship. ..
He got back to this Senator Brownback and how he's backing Bush's gay marriage ban. Howard read that this is the same guy who bathed an employees feet as a way to say goodbye to him. It's all a bunch of religious nonsense.
Howard said that this guy asked about the ''indecent'' broadcasts that are still on Infinity when they haven't been deemed indecent by the courts.
woohooo the religious right doesn't have senators in their pocket?
god bless bush's america
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Originally posted by Mike AI@Mar 6 2004, 12:07 PM So now the conspiracy is expanded?
Thanks for keeping us in the loop Meni!!
Mike
A Senator is an elected official
did he ask his state if the wanted to write to Mel the head of Viacom
and ask why he is broadcasting indecent (mind you NO ONE has declared stern's show INDECENT!!!) material?
this fuckin religious fuckin freak who bathed his former employees feet wants to TELL the head of VIACOM what he can and cannont broadcast?
Mike you don't seem to pay attention to this
I DO
I know more than you
This senator lived in subsidized housing
a multi million dollar home, and he pays $600 a month for it?
and the fellowship takes care of the rest
conspiracy?
no I am a MORON,, its the religious right's agenda
and ha ha
lemme bring up the Nazis
what did they do?
get the corporations to believe in their agenda
sounds like
clear channel believing the religious right's agenda doesn' t it?
remove anything they believe indecent
and indecency have never been cleary defined
I don't need this fuckin jesus freak removing anything he deems indecent
We'd have nothing to watch
I watch/listen to Stern
watch South Park, oh the boys would be gone, thats incredibly indecent!
Chappelle show, he says Nigga every episode, that's indecent
I love it how Stern says, these could be his last words
vote bush out
stern goes to sattellite
guess what
the religious right wants to take a look at Satellite next
Mike you are loaded you are rich
of course you back bush
and don't tell me no other president would have gone after terrorits after 9/11
you think after 9/11 Kerry/Clinton/Gore
any of them wouldn't LOOK FOR BIN LADEN
he was strong after 9/11
who wouldn't be?
this guy is in the religious right's pocket
living in their housing
bathing feet
and he's declaring what viacom puts out as INDECENT?
judged by WHOM?
a jesus freak
and oprano
fix this smilie
thats the I LOVE YOU SIGN, thumb out
you want the Metal sign, devils horns
no thumb out
posers
Mike, just wanted to say that your reaction to this thread is very similar to my reaction to things that come from the conservative radio broadcasters of the world (Rush and the rushabes...). It relies on all sorts of semi-truths, linking unrelated facts and situations, and magnifying smaller defects or flaws in the way someone does things.
By the sounds of it, this Senator certainly was applying pressure to make those he is beholden to happy.
Alex
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Meni, I appreciate you are getting involved and interested in politics.
We agree on some issues, but I think you are getting all of your information from the same sources - and are taking hook, line and sinker.
Become a skeptic, look into both sides. Neither party or side has a hold on the truth, nor are either side honest. Professional politicians are whores.
There are only a few issues that matter to me most. #1 is National Defense. IN my opinion with it, we can have nothing else. Bush in my opinion is much stronger then Kerry.
I really could careless about Howard Stern..... who is rich, and has become that way not through talent, but by taking chances by pushing the evelope as a shock jock!
I am sure you will be happy to know that Kim the leader of North Korea is support Kerry, and broadcasts his speeches to all North Koreans.
Why would a communist dictator support Kerry? Hmmmmmm
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and I am a MORON,
You might not like Stern
but he's out there doing a show
and he'll be off the air
because of the religious right
lets just listen to right wing christians
and now RAGE
turn on the radio
nah fuck it turn it off
fear is your only god on the radio
Originally posted by Meni@Mar 6 2004, 06:04 PM Mikey
the whole world wants Kerry
and I am a MORON,
You might not like Stern
but he's out there doing a show
and he'll be off the air
because of the religious right
lets just listen to right wing christians
and now RAGE
turn on the radio
nah fuck it turn it off
fear is your only god on the radio
Meni do you think the whole world has the best interest of the US in mind?
Think about it.
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Originally posted by Meni@Mar 6 2004, 12:34 PM this guy is in the religious right's pocket . . .
Well, on that we agree! The Hon. Brownback is a co-sponsor of the Federal Marriage Amendment. When sent a fairly mild (IMHO) questioning letter about his stand on the issue the answer was a totally unresponsive 'thanks for your input, we're (royal) doing this because families and our culture must be protected' (form? sure read like it) letter. Who's he in bed with? Sam's never come out and said he thinks Fred Phelps (the Kansas religious kook) is out of line with his campaign of hate. So, I'd say the 'this is not a secular republic but a Christian democracy (as WE define democracy)' crowd has the Hon. Brownback by the 'nads.
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Radio, nah fuck it, turn it off
Fear is your only god on tha radio
Nah fuck it, turn it off
Turn it off, turn on tha radio, nah fuck it turn it off
Fear is your only god on tha radio
Nah fuck it, your saviour's my guillotine, crosses and kerosene
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Meni I am all about free speech. Infact I would not care what Stern does. I don't really care about gay marriage. But (stealing Dennis Miller's line) if some asshole wants to run an airplane into the gay wedding - that is an issue that I care about!
If Kerry was a hawk, and I knew he would continue the war on terror, not turn our national interests to the UN - then there could be a real choice for me.
Trust me, I think Bush has blown a lot of things..... but they are domestic issues.
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Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Mar 7 2004, 02:25 AM Mikey, why don't you just come out and say that you aren't alarmed by the evangelicals and their agenda?
I honestly think the religious right has a lot less power then most people, most liberals claim. I think the religious right has less power NOW then they did in the mid 80s.
I do not see the same signs as you guys. I think its all hype trying to scare people.
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Since when has Howard Stern become the poster child for anti-bush fanatics?
The man broadcasts on freely available public airwaves explicit and graphic details of things that are adult in nature during non-prime-time hours.
It's been in the FCC rulebook for a very long time that you cannot do this.
He broke the rules, he got smacked for it. No one has censored him, no one has said he can't continue to talk his trash. There are no police busting down his door putting duct tape over his mouth or hauling him off to the filthy talker's prison.
Fucking get over it already. It's got nothing to do with Bush and everything to do with Stern breaking the rules.
I've got an FCC license Meni. So does Gonzo. Do you?
If not, I suggest you go read the FCC's rules on allowable broadcasts, adult material, and common decency laws before screaming about the religious right trying to squelch anyone's right to spew filth.
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Originally posted by Carrie@Mar 7 2004, 03:01 AM Since when has Howard Stern become the poster child for anti-bush fanatics?
The man broadcasts on freely available public airwaves explicit and graphic details of things that are adult in nature during non-prime-time hours.
It's been in the FCC rulebook for a very long time that you cannot do this.
He broke the rules, he got smacked for it. No one has censored him, no one has said he can't continue to talk his trash. There are no police busting down his door putting duct tape over his mouth or hauling him off to the filthy talker's prison.
Fucking get over it already. It's got nothing to do with Bush and everything to do with Stern breaking the rules.
I've got an FCC license Meni. So does Gonzo. Do you?
If not, I suggest you go read the FCC's rules on allowable broadcasts, adult material, and common decency laws before screaming about the religious right trying to squelch anyone's right to spew filth.
Carrie this is what I was saying.
I think Stern is playing up the Bush thng because its a can't lose situation for him. He can play it off like its politics, the most powerful man in the world is after him, etc.. etc....
Bush probably does not have the faintest idea who Howard Stern is.... thats the funny party!!
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Originally posted by -Mike AI@Mar 7 2004, 02:36 AM
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I think the idea that the Christian Conservatives have less power now than they did in the mid 80s is absolutely ludicrous. They may not make as much overt noise as they did when Pat Robertson was trying to get the nomination (ultimately lost to George I); however, after that they got a lot quieter, concentrated more on dominating the party apparatus, and today they have a President in power that knows fully well he is beholden to him.
After losing the New Hampshire primary, he energized his campaign in South Carolina by pandering to the evangelicals by making a speech at Bob Jones University - where Pat Robertson is considered a liberal. Combine that with the Nader vote and you have a Bush presidency, pure and simple.
You have already dropped back to the neocon fallback position - I'm either trying to scare people with lies or I've been duped by the liberal biased media. Pretty sad for someone as young as yourself to start Toroning already.
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Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Mar 7 2004, 12:53 PM I think the idea that the Christian Conservatives have less power now than they did in the mid 80s is absolutely ludicrous. They may not make as much overt noise as they did when Pat Robertson was trying to get the nomination (ultimately lost to George I); however, after that they got a lot quieter, concentrated more on dominating the party apparatus, and today they have a President in power that knows fully well he is beholden to him.
After losing the New Hampshire primary, he energized his campaign in South Carolina by pandering to the evangelicals by making a speech at Bob Jones University - where Pat Robertson is considered a liberal. Combine that with the Nader vote and you have a Bush presidency, pure and simple.
You have already dropped back to the neocon fallback position - I'm either trying to scare people with lies or I've been duped by the liberal biased media. Pretty sad for someone as young as yourself to start Toroning already.
I said mis 80s, that is when Reagan was President. Remember Meese? The Moral Majority?
PD - everytime I think there is some commone ground that we can agree on, you go all loopy and start your party line.
If you can see teh changes from 1984 to 2004 and really say the religious right have more power - then you are fucking NUTS!!!
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Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Mar 7 2004, 10:27 AM Good question, Vick. IMHO, while Kerry and Bush both get a real reaction from their detractors, I think one thing is absolutely certain.
RMN would bug the shit out of somebody.
Sorry ... I really couldn't help it.
Nah he'd have G. Gordon Liddy do it
he he he he he
17 minutes of tape, bless Rosemary Woods - that's when women were women and secretaries did the important things right (not interns - ANYBODY can deliver pizza and suck dick)
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Originally posted by Mike AI@Mar 7 2004, 12:57 PM I said mis 80s, that is when Reagan was President. Remember Meese? The Moral Majority?
PD - everytime I think there is some commone ground that we can agree on, you go all loopy and start your party line.
If you can see teh changes from 1984 to 2004 and really say the religious right have more power - then you are fucking NUTS!!!
Yes, Mike, I do remember the mid-80s, Edwin Meese, and the Moral Majority. And yes, looking (apparently) at the same data as you, I do think the Religious Right has a much stronger and more pervasive voice within this Administration than they did even under Reagan.
Considering how effective they have been at organizing since that time, it's really not suprising.
You can consider me fucking nuts if you want ... I think you're fucking blind.
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I think the religeous rigth is pretty darn happy with their power in government, and the gains they feel they have made with the boy in the whitehouse.
Interestingly, the previous Bush administration had a similar trend over it's time...
That was a one term presidency, if I remember correctly... :-)
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Originally posted by Carrie@Mar 7 2004, 03:01 AM Since when has Howard Stern become the poster child for anti-bush fanatics?
The man broadcasts on freely available public airwaves explicit and graphic details of things that are adult in nature during non-prime-time hours.
It's been in the FCC rulebook for a very long time that you cannot do this.
He broke the rules, he got smacked for it. No one has censored him, no one has said he can't continue to talk his trash. There are no police busting down his door putting duct tape over his mouth or hauling him off to the filthy talker's prison.
Fucking get over it already. It's got nothing to do with Bush and everything to do with Stern breaking the rules.
I've got an FCC license Meni. So does Gonzo. Do you?
If not, I suggest you go read the FCC's rules on allowable broadcasts, adult material, and common decency laws before screaming about the religious right trying to squelch anyone's right to spew filth.
Stern hasn't been fined YET
but talk shit about bush
and oh boy
lets find something
something 3 years old
then if Viacom tries to go to court
the gov will make sure its tough for Viacom
to renew licenses, to buy and sell stations
stern went thru this before
and Viacom ended up paying the $1.7 mill instead of losing a big purchase of a station
cuz of the red tape, lost papers, calls unanswered
Originally posted by Carrie@Mar 7 2004, 03:01 AM Since when has Howard Stern become the poster child for anti-bush fanatics?
The man broadcasts on freely available public airwaves explicit and graphic details of things that are adult in nature during non-prime-time hours.
It's been in the FCC rulebook for a very long time that you cannot do this.
He broke the rules, he got smacked for it. No one has censored him, no one has said he can't continue to talk his trash. There are no police busting down his door putting duct tape over his mouth or hauling him off to the filthy talker's prison.
Fucking get over it already. It's got nothing to do with Bush and everything to do with Stern breaking the rules.
I've got an FCC license Meni. So does Gonzo. Do you?
If not, I suggest you go read the FCC's rules on allowable broadcasts, adult material, and common decency laws before screaming about the religious right trying to squelch anyone's right to spew filth.
Carrie what do you know about this? Do you have the facts in hand?
The time table for this?
Stern is pro bush, no FCC talk of indency
Why didn't the FCC go after stern last year?
2 years ago?
oh they are going after him NOW?
after he says
VOTE BUSH OUT
who stuck Powell as chairman?
BUSH
lets put a token black man up there
any day now look for the fines
why no fines last year?
3 months ago?
the janet tit?
thats bullshit
and the religious right WRITES the letters to the FCC
and 1 christian group pays 50 cents per letter to senior citizens
Where's MikeW? doesn't wanna get into politics on the board
but he's 100% behind Stern on this
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Originally posted by Mike AI@Mar 7 2004, 11:18 PM Ohhh for you huh? OK
If you can think of anything else please let us know.
The status quo is a hard thing to change. There are something that are out of the bag, and the religious right will not be able to change that. They have moved onto new battles. They are losing.
In th 80s the threat of gay marriage would have raise all kinds of hell.... 20 years later, many cities and states are defying this...
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Mike, in case you are missing it, the "threat" (interesting choice of words - who, exactly, is "threatened"?) of gay marriage IS raising all kinds of hell. So much so, in fact, that the President of the United States deemed it necessary to use his "bully pulpit" to endorse a Constitutional Ammendment to ban it.
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I think the religeous rigth is pretty darn happy with their power in government, and the gains they feel they have made with the boy in the whitehouse.
Interestingly, the previous Bush administration had a similar trend over it's time...
That was a one term presidency, if I remember correctly... :-)
Alex
OK so now one wacko is quoting another, but diametickly opposed wacko groups website, to prove that the President is the secret leader of the wacko group .
Thank God for Google!
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Originally posted by Mike AI@Mar 7 2004, 11:45 PM Mike, in case you are missing it, the "threat" (interesting choice of words - who, exactly, is "threatened"?) of gay marriage IS raising all kinds of hell. So much so, in fact, that the President of the United States deemed it necessary to use his "bully pulpit" to endorse a Constitutional Ammendment to ban it.
Don't change the subject.... Give me a list of policy changes, or other concrete evidence of religous right being more powerful then they were in 80s!
You can't!!
Not even the evil Ashcroft has done anything to use his posistion to help the regligous right![/quote]
I really don't think I was changing the subject, Mikey. You are one of the bobbleheads who usually drops into the "liberalactivistjudges" chant when the subject of gay marriage comes up. Now you are pointing to it as "evidence" that the religious right has no power, when the President of the U.S. is pandering to their clamour for a Constitutional Ammendment forbidding it, and they (the Religious Right) are promising to make it one of the hot-button issues in the upcoming campaign.
I've already mentioned a couple (faith-based initiatives, so-called "marriage emphasis" programs coming out of HHR, family planning (and possibly anti-HIV) policy basically in the hands of the Catholic Church). Now, I realize that most of the family planning money and anti-HIV funds would end up going out as foreign aid to poor people, so they are not thought worthy of any consideration, at least according to some - but it's gonna kill a bunch of folks that we allegedly are trying to help.
The evidence is there; you chose to interpret it a different way than I do. I think you are ignoring the obvious, and you think I'm a fearmonger, apparenlty, because we see things differently.
Still don't know what my age has to do with this, or why you are threatened by gay marriage. Hmmmm ....
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So, I'd say the 'this is not a secular republic but a Christian democracy (as WE define democracy)' crowd has the Hon. Brownback by the 'nads.
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