Stern Friday
by marksfriggin: "He went on to say that this Senator from Kansas by the name of Brownback, wrote a letter to Mel Karmazin and asked him why he hasn't taken Howard off the air yet. This is a guy who Howard claims, lives with some other politicians in a million dollar townhouse that's paid for by a religious organization. Howard said that this is disturbing to him and anyone living in a place like that has to bow to the pressure of the group. Howard said that the name of the group is The Fellowship. He read an article and said that these guys are out of control. They are in congress and in the senate. He said that the house is valued at $1.1 million and the people living there pay just $600 a month for rent. Howard said that the religious organization is actually the C Street Center which is part of The Fellowship. ..

He got back to this Senator Brownback and how he's backing Bush's gay marriage ban. Howard read that this is the same guy who bathed an employees feet as a way to say goodbye to him. It's all a bunch of religious nonsense.

Howard said that this guy asked about the ''indecent'' broadcasts that are still on Infinity when they haven't been deemed indecent by the courts.



woohooo the religious right doesn't have senators in their pocket?
god bless bush's america

So now the conspiracy is expanded?

Thanks for keeping us in the loop Meni!!

Mike
A Senator is an elected official
did he ask his state if the wanted to write to Mel the head of Viacom
and ask why he is broadcasting indecent (mind you NO ONE has declared stern's show INDECENT!!!) material?
this fuckin religious fuckin freak who bathed his former employees feet wants to TELL the head of VIACOM what he can and cannont broadcast?
Mike you don't seem to pay attention to this
I DO
I know more than you
This senator lived in subsidized housing
a multi million dollar home, and he pays $600 a month for it?
and the fellowship takes care of the rest

conspiracy?
no I am a MORON,, its the religious right's agenda
and ha ha
lemme bring up the Nazis
what did they do?
get the corporations to believe in their agenda
sounds like
clear channel believing the religious right's agenda doesn' t it?
remove anything they believe indecent
and indecency have never been cleary defined
I don't need this fuckin jesus freak removing anything he deems indecent
We'd have nothing to watch
I watch/listen to Stern
watch South Park, oh the boys would be gone, thats incredibly indecent!
Chappelle show, he says Nigga every episode, that's indecent
I love it how Stern says, these could be his last words
vote bush out
stern goes to sattellite
guess what
the religious right wants to take a look at Satellite next

Mike you are loaded you are rich
of course you back bush
and don't tell me no other president would have gone after terrorits after 9/11
you think after 9/11 Kerry/Clinton/Gore
any of them wouldn't LOOK FOR BIN LADEN
he was strong after 9/11
who wouldn't be?

Here ya go Mikey

http://brownback.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=218668

this guy is in the religious right's pocket
living in their housing
bathing feet
and he's declaring what viacom puts out as INDECENT?
judged by WHOM?
a jesus freak
and oprano
fix this smilie
:rokk:
thats the I LOVE YOU SIGN, thumb out
you want the Metal sign, devils horns
no thumb out
posers



Last edited by Meni at Mar 6 2004, 03:35 PM

Mike, just wanted to say that your reaction to this thread is very similar to my reaction to things that come from the conservative radio broadcasters of the world (Rush and the rushabes...). It relies on all sorts of semi-truths, linking unrelated facts and situations, and magnifying smaller defects or flaws in the way someone does things.

By the sounds of it, this Senator certainly was applying pressure to make those he is beholden to happy.

Alex

Meni, I appreciate you are getting involved and interested in politics.

We agree on some issues, but I think you are getting all of your information from the same sources - and are taking hook, line and sinker.

Become a skeptic, look into both sides. Neither party or side has a hold on the truth, nor are either side honest. Professional politicians are whores.

There are only a few issues that matter to me most. #1 is National Defense. IN my opinion with it, we can have nothing else. Bush in my opinion is much stronger then Kerry.

I really could careless about Howard Stern..... who is rich, and has become that way not through talent, but by taking chances by pushing the evelope as a shock jock!

I am sure you will be happy to know that Kim the leader of North Korea is support Kerry, and broadcasts his speeches to all North Koreans.

Why would a communist dictator support Kerry? Hmmmmmm

Mikey
the whole world wants Kerry

and I am a MORON,
You might not like Stern
but he's out there doing a show
and he'll be off the air
because of the religious right
lets just listen to right wing christians

and now RAGE

turn on the radio
nah fuck it turn it off
fear is your only god on the radio

Meni do you think the whole world has the best interest of the US in mind?

Think about it.

Well, on that we agree! The Hon. Brownback is a co-sponsor of the Federal Marriage Amendment. When sent a fairly mild (IMHO) questioning letter about his stand on the issue the answer was a totally unresponsive 'thanks for your input, we're (royal) doing this because families and our culture must be protected' (form? sure read like it) letter. Who's he in bed with? Sam's never come out and said he thinks Fred Phelps (the Kansas religious kook) is out of line with his campaign of hate. :wnw: So, I'd say the 'this is not a secular republic but a Christian democracy (as WE define democracy)' crowd has the Hon. Brownback by the 'nads.

Meni do you think the whole world has the best interest of the US in mind?

Think about it.[/b][/quote]
What is the US's interest?

Radio, nah fuck it, turn it off
Fear is your only god on tha radio
Nah fuck it, turn it off
Turn it off, turn on tha radio, nah fuck it turn it off
Fear is your only god on tha radio
Nah fuck it, your saviour's my guillotine, crosses and kerosene

Fear is your, fear is your, fear is your only god
Fear is your, fear is your, fear is your only god
Fear is your, fear is your, fear is your only god
Fear is your, fear is your, fear is your only god

Meni I am all about free speech. Infact I would not care what Stern does. I don't really care about gay marriage. But (stealing Dennis Miller's line) if some asshole wants to run an airplane into the gay wedding - that is an issue that I care about!

If Kerry was a hawk, and I knew he would continue the war on terror, not turn our national interests to the UN - then there could be a real choice for me.

Trust me, I think Bush has blown a lot of things..... but they are domestic issues.

Mikey, why don't you just come out and say that you aren't alarmed by the evangelicals and their agenda?

I honestly think the religious right has a lot less power then most people, most liberals claim. I think the religious right has less power NOW then they did in the mid 80s.

I do not see the same signs as you guys. I think its all hype trying to scare people.

Since when has Howard Stern become the poster child for anti-bush fanatics?

The man broadcasts on freely available public airwaves explicit and graphic details of things that are adult in nature during non-prime-time hours.

It's been in the FCC rulebook for a very long time that you cannot do this.

He broke the rules, he got smacked for it. No one has censored him, no one has said he can't continue to talk his trash. There are no police busting down his door putting duct tape over his mouth or hauling him off to the filthy talker's prison.

Fucking get over it already. It's got nothing to do with Bush and everything to do with Stern breaking the rules.
I've got an FCC license Meni. So does Gonzo. Do you?

If not, I suggest you go read the FCC's rules on allowable broadcasts, adult material, and common decency laws before screaming about the religious right trying to squelch anyone's right to spew filth.

Carrie this is what I was saying.

I think Stern is playing up the Bush thng because its a can't lose situation for him. He can play it off like its politics, the most powerful man in the world is after him, etc.. etc....

Bush probably does not have the faintest idea who Howard Stern is.... thats the funny party!!

Exactly, Mike!

"It's not my fault because I knowingly have been pushing my luck and getting more disgusting for over a decade and continued to do so despite several warnings...
It's Bush's fault because he's Christian!"

:rolleyes:

I honestly think the religious right has a lot less power then most people, most liberals claim. I think the religious right has less power NOW then they did in the mid 80s.

I do not see the same signs as you guys. I think its all hype trying to scare people.[/b][/quote]
Denial is an ugly thing, Mikey ...

John Ashcroft is not the Attorney General of the United States because of his stellar performance as AG of Missouri before the became a Senator. He is the Attorney General of the United States as a reward to the constituency that put Bush in office. If you follow politics you may recall that Ashcroft floated a trial ballon to campaign for the Presidency himself, and his efforts were concentratedf on the Roberston wing of the party.

I am hard-pressed to recall welfare for chuch groups being passed off as failth-based initiatives in the mid-80s. I don't recall positions within the federal government that deal with family planning being essentially turned over to the Roman Catholic church (please spare me the hyperbole about there shouldn't be a role within the federal government that deal with family planning).

I doubt very seriously that Stern's firing has much to do with his political positions. That there are people who would believe it doesn't suprise me at all. There are stupid people everywhere.

After all, there are folks on the right who believe that liberals are traitors.

WWRND






What Would Richard Nixon Do

Good question, Vick. IMHO, while Kerry and Bush both get a real reaction from their detractors, I think one thing is absolutely certain.

RMN would bug the shit out of somebody.

Sorry ... I really couldn't help it.

Denial is an ugly thing, Mikey ...

John Ashcroft is not the Attorney General of the United States because of his stellar performance as AG of Missouri before the became a Senator. He is the Attorney General of the United States as a reward to the constituency that put Bush in office. If you follow politics you may recall that Ashcroft floated a trial ballon to campaign for the Presidency himself, and his efforts were concentratedf on the Roberston wing of the party.

I am hard-pressed to recall welfare for chuch groups being passed off as failth-based initiatives in the mid-80s. I don't recall positions within the federal government that deal with family planning being essentially turned over to the Roman Catholic church (please spare me the hyperbole about there shouldn't be a role within the federal government that deal with family planning).

I doubt very seriously that Stern's firing has much to do with his political positions. That there are people who would believe it doesn't suprise me at all. There are stupid people everywhere.

After all, there are folks on the right who believe that liberals are traitors.[/b][/quote]


PD Good Conservatives understand we are a nation of laws not men. I have not seen Aschcroft ignore laws and start doing whatever he wantes ( like many liberals have done with gay marriage). Ashcroft has prosecuted people who have interfered in abortion clinics. He has not tried to overturn abortion, or anything else.

The only thing he has madea push in has been with the Patriot Act ( which I agree is flawed and need to be fixed) but he did it through legal means - getting laws passed.

Ashcroft is a very religious guy, there is no doubt about it - but I have not seen an overt abuse of power as Attorney General to further any kind of "religious right".

PD, you are just scared of the hype you get from your liberal sources, or you are part of the lying campaign to scare people.

Who is the one living in denial?

Do you really think the religious right has more power now then back in the mid 80s? I know you are an old guy and all, but think about it. The regligious right has never reached that peak again, and in my opinion has been sinking since....

Look around, look at what has changed from the 80s - look at network tv, radio, internet. Look at a porn magazine from back then, and look at one now!!

Wake up PD!!!! Stop using the same misinformation to scare people.... ( or is it you who is the scared one beleiving al the hype?)

Meni you will like this:

http://www.adultfyi.com/read.aspx?ID=2504

I think the idea that the Christian Conservatives have less power now than they did in the mid 80s is absolutely ludicrous. They may not make as much overt noise as they did when Pat Robertson was trying to get the nomination (ultimately lost to George I); however, after that they got a lot quieter, concentrated more on dominating the party apparatus, and today they have a President in power that knows fully well he is beholden to him.

After losing the New Hampshire primary, he energized his campaign in South Carolina by pandering to the evangelicals by making a speech at Bob Jones University - where Pat Robertson is considered a liberal. Combine that with the Nader vote and you have a Bush presidency, pure and simple.

You have already dropped back to the neocon fallback position - I'm either trying to scare people with lies or I've been duped by the liberal biased media. Pretty sad for someone as young as yourself to start Toroning already.

I said mis 80s, that is when Reagan was President. Remember Meese? The Moral Majority?

PD - everytime I think there is some commone ground that we can agree on, you go all loopy and start your party line.

If you can see teh changes from 1984 to 2004 and really say the religious right have more power - then you are fucking NUTS!!!

Nah he'd have G. Gordon Liddy do it

he he he he he

17 minutes of tape, bless Rosemary Woods - that's when women were women and secretaries did the important things right (not interns - ANYBODY can deliver pizza and suck dick)

Nah he'd have G. Gordon Liddy do it

he he he he he

17 minutes of tape, bless Rosemary Woods - that's when women were women and secretaries did the important things right (not interns - ANYBODY can deliver pizza and suck dick)[/b][/quote]


HAHA Yeah you right Vick!

Wonder if G. Gordon Liddy's show is being pulled?

Yes, Mike, I do remember the mid-80s, Edwin Meese, and the Moral Majority. And yes, looking (apparently) at the same data as you, I do think the Religious Right has a much stronger and more pervasive voice within this Administration than they did even under Reagan.

Considering how effective they have been at organizing since that time, it's really not suprising.

You can consider me fucking nuts if you want ... I think you're fucking blind.

Yes, Mike, I do remember the mid-80s, Edwin Meese, and the Moral Majority. And yes, looking (apparently) at the same data as you, I do think the Religious Right has a much stronger and more pervasive voice within this Administration than they did even under Reagan.

Considering how effective they have been at organizing since that time, it's really not suprising.

You can consider me fucking nuts if you want ... I think you're fucking blind.[/b][/quote]


You are brainwashed. Please show me CONCRETE evidence of any REAL policy change. Court case over turned? OR anything else!! Then if you do find any, compare then to the 80s.

You are either a fear monger - or a victem of fear mongering.

I wonder which one is worse?

You are brainwashed. Please show me CONCRETE evidence of any REAL policy change. Court case over turned? OR anything else!! Then if you do find any, compare then to the 80s.

You are either a fear monger - or a victem of fear mongering.

I wonder which one is worse?[/b][/quote]
Welfare for church groups in the form of the so-called "faith based initiatives" is all it takes for me ...

Welfare for church groups in the form of the so-called "faith based initiatives" is all it takes for me ...[/b][/quote]


Ohhh for you huh? OK

If you can think of anything else please let us know.

The status quo is a hard thing to change. There are something that are out of the bag, and the religious right will not be able to change that. They have moved onto new battles. They are losing.

In th 80s the threat of gay marriage would have raise all kinds of hell.... 20 years later, many cities and states are defying this...

In the 80s porn was not nearly as prevelent or as hardcore at it is now. Hustler 20 years ago showed no hardcore. Today porn is everywhere, hustler shows full penetration and cum shots!

http://www.baptiststandard.com/2003/2_17/p...h_preacher.html

I think the religeous rigth is pretty darn happy with their power in government, and the gains they feel they have made with the boy in the whitehouse.

Interestingly, the previous Bush administration had a similar trend over it's time...

http://www.forerunner.com/forerunner/X0150...Bush_Admin.html

That was a one term presidency, if I remember correctly... :-)

Alex

Stern hasn't been fined YET
but talk shit about bush
and oh boy
lets find something
something 3 years old
then if Viacom tries to go to court
the gov will make sure its tough for Viacom
to renew licenses, to buy and sell stations
stern went thru this before
and Viacom ended up paying the $1.7 mill instead of losing a big purchase of a station
cuz of the red tape, lost papers, calls unanswered

Carrie what do you know about this? Do you have the facts in hand?
The time table for this?
Stern is pro bush, no FCC talk of indency
Why didn't the FCC go after stern last year?
2 years ago?
oh they are going after him NOW?
after he says
VOTE BUSH OUT
who stuck Powell as chairman?
BUSH
lets put a token black man up there
any day now look for the fines
why no fines last year?
3 months ago?
the janet tit?
thats bullshit
and the religious right WRITES the letters to the FCC
and 1 christian group pays 50 cents per letter to senior citizens

Where's MikeW? doesn't wanna get into politics on the board
but he's 100% behind Stern on this

Mike
Meese is in the Fellowship
Meese enjoy morning prayer with breakfast at the house
godbless bush's america

I love the George Bush senior, sample in Ministry's "New World Order"

"What we are looking at, is good and evil, right and wrong"
"A new world order"
"We're about to make that same mistake"

didn't GW rip his daddy off?
GW was calling the war a CRUSADE
then his crew told him to chill on the RELIGIOUS shit

hey where are those WMD?

how does he know gay marriage is bad
he "just knows"
WOW
you want that fucker running things?

Ministry rocks!

Mike, in case you are missing it, the "threat" (interesting choice of words - who, exactly, is "threatened"?) of gay marriage IS raising all kinds of hell. So much so, in fact, that the President of the United States deemed it necessary to use his "bully pulpit" to endorse a Constitutional Ammendment to ban it.

OK so now one wacko is quoting another, but diametickly opposed wacko groups website, to prove that the President is the secret leader of the wacko group .

Thank God for Google!

:okthumb:

Mike, in case you are missing it, the "threat" (interesting choice of words - who, exactly, is "threatened"?) of gay marriage IS raising all kinds of hell. So much so, in fact, that the President of the United States deemed it necessary to use his "bully pulpit" to endorse a Constitutional Ammendment to ban it.[/b][/quote]


Don't change the subject.... Give me a list of policy changes, or other concrete evidence of religous right being more powerful then they were in 80s!

You can't!!

Not even the evil Ashcroft has done anything to use his posistion to help the regligous right!

Don't change the subject.... Give me a list of policy changes, or other concrete evidence of religous right being more powerful then they were in 80s!

You can't!!

Not even the evil Ashcroft has done anything to use his posistion to help the regligous right![/quote]
I really don't think I was changing the subject, Mikey. You are one of the bobbleheads who usually drops into the "liberalactivistjudges" chant when the subject of gay marriage comes up. Now you are pointing to it as "evidence" that the religious right has no power, when the President of the U.S. is pandering to their clamour for a Constitutional Ammendment forbidding it, and they (the Religious Right) are promising to make it one of the hot-button issues in the upcoming campaign.

I've already mentioned a couple (faith-based initiatives, so-called "marriage emphasis" programs coming out of HHR, family planning (and possibly anti-HIV) policy basically in the hands of the Catholic Church). Now, I realize that most of the family planning money and anti-HIV funds would end up going out as foreign aid to poor people, so they are not thought worthy of any consideration, at least according to some - but it's gonna kill a bunch of folks that we allegedly are trying to help.

The evidence is there; you chose to interpret it a different way than I do. I think you are ignoring the obvious, and you think I'm a fearmonger, apparenlty, because we see things differently.

Still don't know what my age has to do with this, or why you are threatened by gay marriage. Hmmmm ....

Don't forget
stem cell research
oh Georgie won't allow it cuz of the LORD

Praise the Lord