Lots of crying over Panda

[gonzo]

Im enjoying reading all the crying over the last few days about Panda.

Looks like a lot of companies mainstream and porn have hired experts that do nothing but try to scam the results.

ICQ and email has been blazing this morning with folks asking me what Id do.

Be best to ask that SEO expert youve hired instead of me.
I only run websites and I dont try to game the SERPS.

Theres your free advice for the day.

[RawAlex]

Link?

[helix]

Panda

[RawAlex]

Ahh, the next step towards becoming DMOZ. Perhaps selling the Google stock would be a good plan about now.

[sunfunbill]

I think their update sucks big time. You can't find what the hell your looking for in Google search. Crap comes up that has nothing to do with what your looking for.

Plus many very good, clean sites have been smacked by it. My big tourist site got hit when it first came out in the US about a month ago. All my stuff is good quality and I don't backlink on it.

It now has come back, only to go down a bit again with the worldwide roll out a few days ago. I wish everyone would dump Google and use Bing.

[RawAlex]

Best comment I have seen so far is wondering if the update is called "panda" or "pander", because it appears to be pandering to the freetard mentality of finding the most free stuff possible. It's almost like Google took a payment from Brazzers or something.

It's all rather sad, Google results have been getting weaker the last few years and this appears to be a step more down the same dusty road, the one that altavista and hotbot took.

[Toby]

If we've learned anything about Google over the years, it's that they'll continue to tweak and fine tune things ad nauseam. I'm sure they realize that there's some collateral damage from the rollout of Panda and will be making adjustments over time.

Besides adult webmasters having a propensity to whine and moan about almost anything, many of the 'standard practices' these guys have called SEO are exactly the kinds of things Panda is targeting.

You just have to keep in mind Google is in the advertising business. The search tool is just how they generate traffic.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Toby

If we've learned anything about Google over the years, it's that they'll continue to tweak and fine tune things ad nauseam. I'm sure they realize that there's some collateral damage from the rollout of Panda and will be making adjustments over time.

Besides adult webmasters having a propensity to whine and moan about almost anything, many of the 'standard practices' these guys have called SEO are exactly the kinds of things Panda is targeting.

You just have to keep in mind Google is in the advertising business. The search tool is just how they generate traffic.

Gaming the formula to rank always has been a bunch of bullshit.

Google had to make some adjustments with MS coming at them hard with Bing. They are only responding to feedback from consumers and the engines have long been crammed full of shit and scams. Its not like they hadnt warned everyone this was coming.

I think it was the swine flu gaming and scamming that Woogie was bragging about a few years that put all of this on the internal Google radar.

But again the same people are crying about tubes ranking higher than their tours are the same people looking for a free download of Tron Legacy.

[softball]

Investors Agog At Google Spending


Shares in Google (NasdaqGS: GOOG - news) have fallen further as investors worry about the direction of the internet giant under its co-founder and new chief executive, Larry Page.


Google stock lost 5% of its value on Thursday following the company's first quarter results, leaving it 9% lower since Page replaced Eric Schmidt in January.

It was a result of a spend of almost $3bn on chasing business opportunities - with 2,000 new staff hired in the period to help find new markets and technologies and jump-start growth.

Salaries were also boosted in a bid to retain staff.

The costs figure overshadowed a 29% rise in net revenue to $6.5bn and analysts say Wall Street is crying out to hear a clear strategy as Google battles leading social networkers but also chases new business opportunities outside the online market.

[Hell Puppy]

Learn a lesson from hockey. Don't skate to where the puck is, skate to where it is going to be.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

Learn a lesson from hockey. Don't skate to where the puck is, skate to where it is going to be.

And keep your stick on the ice.

[softball]

and the number one rule of hockey...keep your head down.

[softball]

if you play for the Maple Leafs....

[miz_wright]

The debate has always been whether SEO is worth a shit, anyhow. There will always be someone saying that it's gonna go to hell, and other people who will try to game it.

This is why I think it's so vital to have something unique - if I'm just trying to promote plain ol' porn, there's nothing that makes me stand out to the average user, and the average user doesn't give a crap where the big-boobed blonde is parked, as long as he's getting his stroke on. Generic content will always swap its users back and forth. Stop chasing them.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by miz_wright

...Stop chasing them.

They're still worth chasing, but not by spending an inordinate amount of time on "SEO".

There are many ways to skin a cat.

[softball]

I am doing some serious seo at the moment...sales are seriously going up...alexa rank is improving...life is pretty good right now.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by miz_wright

- if I'm just trying to promote plain ol' porn, there's nothing that makes me stand out to the average user, and the average user doesn't give a crap where the big-boobed blonde is parked, as long as he's getting his stroke on.

As Toby says there are many ways to skin a cat.
When you boil it down its just people fucking.

[Hell Puppy]

Adult industry amazes me with how stubborn it is toward gaming whatever system there is as opposed to playing it straight.

If people would spend half as much time making their sites into something people really want to see as they do trying to game SEO, they'd end up with much more traffic. But that takes some hard work and time, and our industry really hates that.

Of course there IS a way to skip past everyone and go straight to the top of the listings... PAY FOR IT!

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by gonzo

As Toby says there are many ways to skin a cat.
When you boil it down its just people fucking.

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

Adult industry amazes me with how stubborn it is toward gaming whatever system there is as opposed to playing it straight.

If people would spend half as much time making their sites into something people really want to see as they do trying to game SEO, they'd end up with much more traffic. But that takes some hard work and time, and our industry really hates that.

Of course there IS a way to skip past everyone and go straight to the top of the listings... PAY FOR IT!

You'd think watching things like Reuters and JC Penny's get spanked would be enough.