Give us your opinion on Mobile Affiliation

[Affil4You]

Hi all,

We launched a mobile affiliate program a few weeks ago, called Affil4You. We joined this message board to let you know about our offer.
Today, we are taking it a step further and we want to do this with you.

As webmasters for adult websites, we consider you and your opinion very precious. You are the ones who know what's best for your business.

In this thread, we give you the opportunity to tell us what you think should absolutely included or avoided in a mobile affiliation offer. You can also express your point of view about mobile affiliation in general, whether you consider it important or not.

We're looking forward to reading your posts and having an interesting discussion.

Alexandre

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Affil4You

Hi all,

We launched a mobile affiliate program a few weeks ago, called Affil4You. We joined this message board to let you know about our offer.
Today, we are taking it a step further and we want to do this with you.

As webmasters for adult websites, we consider you and your opinion very precious. You are the ones who know what's best for your business.

In this thread, we give you the opportunity to tell us what you think should absolutely included or avoided in a mobile affiliation offer. You can also express your point of view about mobile affiliation in general, whether you consider it important or not.

We're looking forward to reading your posts and having an interesting discussion.

Alexandre

Is it a site or an APP?

If its an app does it run on Android?

[Affil4You]

Hi gonzo,

We only provide our affiliates with mobile websites for the moment.

Alex.

[TheEnforcer]

Mobile's time might finally be here.. people have been declaring it for a while but it never fully same to reality.. now might be the time.. it'll be interestign to see..

Also, if you are interested I'd love to talk with you about advertising your program on this board and others if you want. I have a lot of very good places for you to have your program to get exposure at.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Affil4You

Hi gonzo,

We only provide our affiliates with mobile websites for the moment.

Alex.

So thats a site reformatted to display and make transactions via the cell phone correct?

[TheEnforcer]

Originally Posted by gonzo

So thats a site reformatted to display and make transactions via the cell phone correct?

That's huge cause that's a big hurdle to get over.

[EmporerEJ]

Here's my opinion.....

No American Flag on your site....
No time spent there by this American.

(And No, the UK flag don't cut it for me.)

[Affil4You]

Hi all,

I think TheEnforcer got the point of our offer pretty straight. Our program offers not only to reformat content in order to make it accessible for mobiles. We also handle transactions, whichever country a visitor comes from.
For EmporerEJ: we think Internet as a global market, we're French and we think this program is interesting for every adult website webmaster. UK flag is commonly understood for american / english. Should you have any question related to ouf program, don't hesitate to ask, I'll find the answers !

Alex.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Affil4You

Hi all,

I think TheEnforcer got the point of our offer pretty straight. Our program offers not only to reformat content in order to make it accessible for mobiles. We also handle transactions, whichever country a visitor comes from.
For EmporerEJ: we think Internet as a global market, we're French and we think this program is interesting for every adult website webmaster. UK flag is commonly understood for american / english. Should you have any question related to ouf program, don't hesitate to ask, I'll find the answers !

Alex.

The old SexMoney program used to do this but not with mobile. They had piece of java code that would redirect your traffic based on language type of browser to different sites in that language and processed via the common ways for that country.

WIth the acceptance of mobile billing in Europe this isnt a bad play.
If you had some code that did that as well as differentiated between mobile and desktop displays then that would be a grand slame.

[softball]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

Here's my opinion.....

No American Flag on your site....
No time spent there by this American.

(And No, the UK flag don't cut it for me.)

Why not?

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by Affil4You

Hi all,

For EmporerEJ: we think Internet as a global market, we're French and we think this program is interesting for every adult website webmaster. UK flag is commonly understood for american / english. Should you have any question related to ouf program, don't hesitate to ask, I'll find the answers !

Alex.

Yea, and that's exactly my point.
Why wouldn't it be the American Flag, "commonly understood to mean UK/America?"
As a French person, you of all people should know better.
While I don't have anything against our British Brethren, we Don't share a flag, and apparently, you missed the part where we explained that to the rest of the world. Repeatedly.
And We, "Americans," who built the internet, while the rest of the world sat on their thumbs, have a little closer relationship with it. Yes, it is a world wide network.......NOW. But never forget, it started here, and but for ARPA/DARPA, there might never have been an internet. (Or PCs, Macs, etc, the things that you use to access the internet.)

Your response is dismissive, disrespectful, and offends me as an American.
And since you are attempting to market to Americans, I am giving you the courtesy of telling you why I'm not interested in your product.

I wonder, how many will have the same opinion as me, and simply not tell you?
We/you may never know.

[Toby]

I see that the "Ugly American" is alive and well online. {heavy sigh}

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by Toby

I see that the "Ugly American" is alive and well online. {heavy sigh}

Hey, you know what?
I like you Toby, but I don't apologize in taking pride in my heritage.
And I suggest you do the same.

But for the "Ugly American," this world would be a sad place indeed.
But for the "Ugly American," our french friend, and the other flags on his page, WOULD NOT Exist.
I don't think there is a historian anywhere that really disputes that.
They would all be flying the swastika.

But for the "Ugly American," there would be no internet. Or telehone lines, or electric lines for that matter.

There's a reason the US is country dialing code "01."

All I'm suggesting, is the guy ought to acknowledge the attitudes of the VAST MAJORITY of Americans on his page. If he's expecting to "market" to them.
I realize this has taken a sharp turn into politics, but it IS at the root of the problem I saw with the site. As I said, the guy could just "not" get business, and wonder why?

But your comments annoy me for a whole different reason. Be glad you have the right to piss on your own country. It doesn't come from "nice thoughts."
I won't EVER be ashamed to take pride in my country. No matter how many people want to put it down.

[Toby]

I assume then that you block all non-US traffic from your web site?

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by Toby

I assume then that you block all non-US traffic from your web site?

Of course not.
I'm not an isolationist, and this isn't about me.

The title of the thread is: "Give us your opinion on Mobile Affiliation."

So, I did.

If you want to sell to Americans, you had damn well better cater to them, 'cause there be a whole lot more of them out there with the same opinion.

[Toby]

I didn't think so. You wish to participate in a global economy, but don't want to extend that same courtesy to non-US based businesses.

1) Time to wake up and smell the coffee. Economies are now global, just like the Internet. The 80's called, and they want their attitude back.

2) You claim to speak for the "VAST MAJORITY of Americans". Care to share the poll results? I must have missed them.

3) The flag icon you're all bent about is for making choice for preferred language, which in this case is English. If my history classes were correct that language was invented in ENGLAND centuries before the US even existed.

You're welcome to express your opinion, that's a right we have here in America, but please don't think for a minute you're speaking for anyone but yourself.

[softball]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

Hey, you know what?
I like you Toby, but I don't apologize in taking pride in my heritage.
And I suggest you do the same.

But for the "Ugly American," this world would be a sad place indeed.
But for the "Ugly American," our french friend, and the other flags on his page, WOULD NOT Exist.
I don't think there is a historian anywhere that really disputes that.
They would all be flying the swastika.

But for the "Ugly American," there would be no internet. Or telehone lines, or electric lines for that matter.

There's a reason the US is country dialing code "01."

All I'm suggesting, is the guy ought to acknowledge the attitudes of the VAST MAJORITY of Americans on his page. If he's expecting to "market" to them.
I realize this has taken a sharp turn into politics, but it IS at the root of the problem I saw with the site. As I said, the guy could just "not" get business, and wonder why?

But your comments annoy me for a whole different reason. Be glad you have the right to piss on your own country. It doesn't come from "nice thoughts."
I won't EVER be ashamed to take pride in my country. No matter how many people want to put it down.

Wow....just wow.
Dude, I am from Scotland where we invented just about everything and if we didn't it was probably invented by someone whose heritage was. Little things like telephones and televisions.
When I read that redneck bullshit, I just shake my head and wonder about the state of American education. I know you put a man on the moon. Thank God the Chinese invented rockets and the Germans showed you how to ride on them.
But dude, get a grip. Its only a freeking flag and yours is about the only country in the world where its citizens burn their own flag, so who the fuck cares?

[Zee]

Money's money. I don't care if it's from Mars. The whole point of this thing is making a living no matter what your flag!

[Zee]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Wow....just wow.
Dude, I am from Scotland where we invented just about everything and if we didn't it was probably invented by someone whose heritage was. Little things like telephones and televisions.
When I read that redneck bullshit, I just shake my head and wonder about the state of American education. I know you put a man on the moon. Thank God the Chinese invented rockets and the Germans showed you how to ride on them.
But dude, get a grip. Its only a freeking flag and yours is about the only country in the world where its citizens burn their own flag, so who the fuck cares?

I agree conditionally. I for one love my country and if someone burns a flag in front of me I'm going to the electric chair and they're going to hell.
The problem with out educational system here is and here's a for instance: If you've got 50 pole vaulters and NOBODY can jump the bar what do they do.....???? They lower the fucking bar so everybody can jump it. We've lowered the bar in our educational system here til we're graduating a lot of illiterate morons that we'll have to support for the rest of their lives. I LOVE my country buy my government scares the hell out of me.
Hows that for changing the subject of a thread.
Love you all,
Zee

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by Toby

I didn't think so. You wish to participate in a global economy, but don't want to extend that same courtesy to non-US based businesses.

1) Time to wake up and smell the coffee. Economies are now global, just like the Internet. The 80's called, and they want their attitude back.

2) You claim to speak for the "VAST MAJORITY of Americans". Care to share the poll results? I must have missed them.

3) The flag icon you're all bent about is for making choice for preferred language, which in this case is English. If my history classes were correct that language was invented in ENGLAND centuries before the US even existed.

You're welcome to express your opinion, that's a right we have here in America, but please don't think for a minute you're speaking for anyone but yourself.

1. Nice thought, but American wallets don't work on the "Love everybody" principle. Waving someone else's flag at an American is likely to anger them....which leads to #2......

2. Just above this message my point is made for me. Don't see a whole lot of "flag burning" going on around this country, do you? How'd that whole "we got a right to burn the flag" thing come out a few years ago? Most Americans are closet patriots, but the liberal media (and now you) seem to want to make that somehow "shameful." Sorry, not buying it.

3. Actually, they're rooted in Latin. more recently, The Roman's put a hell of a twist on their language, when they conquered most of the continent .But, how far back do you want to go? I speak American English. I don't deny the language came from England, as did many of my ancestors. But my country is just over 200 years old, and is the most powerful nation, ever, in the history of the world. I'm thinking that earns us the right to our flag.
So, again I say, you wanna sell to me? and the same "Joe Public" I've been dealing with at the retail counter for the past 30 years? You better put my flag up there....if you're putting flags up.

Had you just put the word "english," up there, I probably wouldn't have been too upset.

So, again, back to the thread....if you want to know about it's "saleability,"
MY OPINION is, you better change the flags.

And I'm guessing yours is, "ok with me."
Oh...wait. I'm sorry. You haven't expressed a helpful opinion yet.
Did you have anything to say about the thread topic?

Or did you just want to bash America, or my opinion?

[Zee]

I would think less of anyone that was less proud of their flag than I am of mine. When I had the privilege to work in other countries my uniform usually included an American flag which I was proud to wear as were the folks I was working with. If they choose to come to my country and display their flag which I'm sure they're proud of as I am I have no problem with it.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

Or did you just want to bash America, or my opinion?

I didn't bash America at all. I just took exception to your opinion. You're the one that assumed that meant I was bashing America.

My business actually brings non-US funds into the US economy, can you say the same?

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by Zee

I would think less of anyone that was less proud of their flag than I am of mine. When I had the privilege to work in other countries my uniform usually included an American flag which I was proud to wear as were the folks I was working with. If they choose to come to my country and display their flag which I'm sure they're proud of as I am I have no problem with it.

As do I. I'll go you one better, I'll defend their right to display their flag in my country, and have done so.

Again, the point of the thread was 'Here's our new website, what is everyone's opinion of its marketability?"

When I expressed mine, the anti-american (or maybe just anti-me) crowd went off the rails.

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by Toby

I didn't bash America at all. I just took exception to your opinion. You're the one that assumed that meant I was bashing America.

My business actually brings non-US funds into the US economy, can you say the same?

Actually, yes you did...you said "I see that the "Ugly American" is alive and well online. {heavy sigh}" Did you mean Just me? or were you, as it is clearly intended, "stereotyping" many Americans?

Yes, I can. It also keeps Jobs right here in America. Unlike 90% of the rest of the adult "marital aids" in this industry. Your assumption about almost all of them is accurate. Not us.

"Proudly manufactured in the United States of America" and the American flag grace every box, and every Virtual Sex Machine leaving our factory.
ESPECIALLY the ones going internationally. (They of course, do have to show the "country of manufacturing Origin.")
In fact, I think you will find no less than 8 instances of it on our product.
Even the Circuit boards are made, assembled, and packaged in America.


Some "fun Facts."

Our circuit boards cost 357% more than the ones I could have made in China.
The Plastic parts are almost all made in the US, except two small plastic rings, that are either made in Canada, OR the USA. (We can't control which ones we buy, or we would. There is ONLY one supplier of Black Acrylic tubing available anywhere in the USA.)
If you open up the interface Box, you'll find our circuits boards wearing the "Made in USA" label, Fused into the board with Copper. It used to say "Proudly manufactured in the United States of America," but with Board version 6.7c there simply wasn't room, physically on the board to do it safely anymore.
The plastic cases for the board, are made in either the USA, or China. We ONLY buy the ones made in the USA, and they must be certified. We pay an extra 40 cents or so, for the specific American ones. (Depends on the quantity we order.)

The chemicals, we cook for the inside liner, have "origin USA" on their label, as required by law. Again, we would not accept anything from outside the USA.

So, almost EVERY dollar brought in from outside the USA to my company is money coming INTO the economy, and almost NONE is going out.

You'll find I "walk the talk."
Feel free to find out for yourself. I challenge you.

Now, bringing it back to the thread.......while we clearly indicate we are an American Company, and the Product is Made in the USA, you don't see me pissing on anyone's flag on my site, do you?

[softball]

I am sure your entire country salutes you and your proudly American jerk off machine. I bet your chest puffs out and your dick gets hard as your patriotic customers cum at the twilights last gleaming, proudly crying "God Bless America."

[Affil4You]

Hi all,

Thanks for this jaw-breaking debate. I guess we all have our opinions and I'm totally OK with that. To get this point straight: UK flag stands for English-translated part of our website, period.
Now if anyone has suggestions or questions about mobile affiliate programs or Affil4You's, you're welcome !

Thanks,

Alex.

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

Now, bringing it back to the thread.......while we clearly indicate we are an American Company, and the Product is Made in the USA, you don't see me pissing on anyone's flag on my site, do you?

Actually, it is what most "rally 'round the flag" Americans don't get: When you push the idea of "proudly American", you are in some ways pissing on everyone else.

God bless America, because you know god wouldn't bless anywhere else. Only America deserves the blessing.

"American Made" has long stopped meaning quality or high end, now it means something more like "assembled by illegal mexican workers in a plant owned by Asians in a state that is trying to cede from the Union".

Sorry, it just doesn't wash.

I am with the site owner, the british flag is the proper indication of english language content. They could use an american flag, but then they would have to use terms like "nite" and "y'all".

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

I am with the site owner, the british flag is the proper indication of english language content. They could use an american flag, but then they would have to use terms like "nite" and "y'all".

Thats a different flag.

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Actually, it is what most "rally 'round the flag" Americans don't get: When you push the idea of "proudly American", you are in some ways pissing on everyone else.

God bless America, because you know god wouldn't bless anywhere else. Only America deserves the blessing.

"American Made" has long stopped meaning quality or high end, now it means something more like "assembled by illegal mexican workers in a plant owned by Asians in a state that is trying to cede from the Union".

Sorry, it just doesn't wash.

I am with the site owner, the british flag is the proper indication of english language content. They could use an american flag, but then they would have to use terms like "nite" and "y'all".

That's exactly the attitude that pisses me off.
You SAY it has come to mean that because of the mass media controlled message of "gee, we're rich trust fund babies and feel guilty about our success, so we'll piss on the system to makes ourselves feel better."

That's not when I grew up, not how I feel, and not what "proudly made in the USA" means to me.

No mexican workers here in Central PA man, you're thinking about SOCal. We aren't part of that scene.

And once again, man asked my opinion, I gave it. Piss people like myself off, at your peril. The only thing that will suffer, is sales.

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by Affil4You

Hi all,

Thanks for this jaw-breaking debate. I guess we all have our opinions and I'm totally OK with that. To get this point straight: UK flag stands for English-translated part of our website, period.
Now if anyone has suggestions or questions about mobile affiliate programs or Affil4You's, you're welcome !

Thanks,

Alex.

Well, I just wanted to give you a "proper" welcome. Around here, you get what you ask for.

[softball]

Emp....you are truly the epitome of the ugly American. Redneck and arrogant and for no good reason. It is this attitude that has sunk your country, not built it. You remember the "New American Century"? Well that failed. The entire world said fuck you to the US and your economy crashed and burned. And what was your response??? Freedom Fries.
Mission Accomplished

[Affil4You]

Hi everyone,

I wanted to let you know that we have reviewed our translations and think we now have something decent to offer you.
Don't forget you can try and install our script in a few minutes. You have no engagement and it's totally painless.

Thanks for your feedback again, and speak your mind !

Alex
alexandre@affil4you.com

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

Well, I just wanted to give you a "proper" welcome. Around here, you get what you ask for.

Welcome to the club...

[bluemoney]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Wow....just wow.
Dude, I am from Scotland

My wife is from Edinburgh Love those "Scotty Gals"

[Robert]

Off your meds?

[EmporerEJ]

Here's an interesting Language flags use....they seem to get it, and can we doubt they are successful?


http://www.bethsoft.com/

[Affil4You]

If you checked the site you're linking to, you'd see that the text is absolutely the same in American English and British English, so what's the point except using two flags instead of one ?

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by Affil4You

If you checked the site you're linking to, you'd see that the text is absolutely the same in American English and British English, so what's the point except using two flags instead of one ?

Yes, that's the point exactly.
Which country are you from?
Perhaps I can phrase an example you would understand?

Although, at this point, I'm beginning to become bored with this.


It seems to have turned into a "give us your opinion if you want to blow smoke up our ass, but if you have anything else, don't bother, we don't want to hear it."

Good luck.

[softball]

So, then perhaps I should get pissed off because there is no Canadian flag, Emp? Perhaps I won't buy a product unless they spell colour properly. Don't you see just how small time parochial you look?

[bluemoney]

Let's not forget about the FFN Flag!

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by bluemoney

Let's not forget about the FFN Flag!

Now THAT is a language flag I can get behind!

Especially on shrove Tuesday.

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by xxxloger

what?

You practicing to be a light bulb?

[Affil4You]

Hello everyone, Leopold speaking.

Starting today, I'll be replacing Alex on this message board, doing my best to answer all your questions and trying to convince you of the advantages of mobile affiliation. Alex will still be working on our Affil4You program, so don't worry if you're already in touch with him.

We wanted to let you know that we set up some incentive for all of you in our mobile affiliate program. Starting this week, you'll get 75% of generated revenue for the next 30 days. This offer closes on April 5th, after that date, we'll still be paying you on a 50% basis.

Please feel free to contact me should you need more information, at leopold@affil4you.com. You can also get set up on our website.

We're waiting for your calls

Leopold.

[EmporerEJ]

So, starting today, I think I'll replace Gonzo on the board.
I'll be doing my best to convince you that the FFN club are the arbiters of which donuts are best.
Of course that means Krispy Kreme, despite the fact that their stock sucks, and lost a lot of people a lot of money.....

I'll also be trying to talk you into your very own fur coat, the uniform of the well dressed FFN.

So, you know, if you have any questions....ask somebody. ('cause I ain't answering.....I got 'portant shit to do.)

[Affil4You]

Hi everyone,

We're planning the launch of Affil4You 2.0 next September. Affiliates (and those willing-to-be-one) will be able to set up their mobile service in just a few clicks. If you have some suggestions or questions regarding our program, now is the time !

Here's a quick reminder of our offer :
- free setup, revshare for everyone ;
- your mobile visitors are redirected to a mobile-friendly website;
- the latter is branded to your website (logo, color layout) ;
- we have a wide variety of content for you to choose from (niches, brands : Adam&Eve, Private…) ;
- you can choose to upload your own existing content ;
- our billing is efficient worldwide, thanks to local deals ;
- we pay monthly

Affil4You has been launched last year, by our company, which has a 7-year experience on the mobile adult market. We're leader on that market in France.

I'm always available to answer your questions. Feel free to contact me on ICQ (645854496), Skype (lplassart), e-mail: leopold@affil4you.com, or phone (+44 207 281 1916).

Leopold.

[gonzo]

Contribute to this board other than your drive by spam or you will be banned.

[Affil4You]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Contribute to this board other than your drive by spam or you will be banned.

**facepalm**

Got the msg. Will do my bet !
Thx for the advice

[Alienq]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Thats a different flag.

No thats my flag.

Fuck niggers, Kikes, Chinks, Rag heads, Jews and any other off lander mother fucker.

[RawAlex]

I think you forgot to say "fuck narrow minded xenophobics who have a hard time getting design work".

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

Yea, and that's exactly my point.
Why wouldn't it be the American Flag, "commonly understood to mean UK/America?"
As a French person, you of all people should know better.
While I don't have anything against our British Brethren, we Don't share a flag, and apparently, you missed the part where we explained that to the rest of the world. Repeatedly.
And We, "Americans," who built the internet, while the rest of the world sat on their thumbs, have a little closer relationship with it. Yes, it is a world wide network.......NOW. But never forget, it started here, and but for ARPA/DARPA, there might never have been an internet. (Or PCs, Macs, etc, the things that you use to access the internet.)

Your response is dismissive, disrespectful, and offends me as an American.
And since you are attempting to market to Americans, I am giving you the courtesy of telling you why I'm not interested in your product.

I wonder, how many will have the same opinion as me, and simply not tell you?
We/you may never know.