Ray Guhn sentenced to 4 years

gonzo · 08-12-2008

Sordid tale. He gets cops the guilty plea for a light sentence as opposed to taking his chances.

The untold peice of the puzzle is an employee on the inside violated his probation and tuned states witness.

Cash Titians affilaite money was filerted into a girlfriends account to the total of 65K and then turned over to the Feds.

Same employee wiretapped conversation in an effort to coerce information for the case. Turned over all Cash Titians affilate information....so if you are like me you are again on the Feds radar.

If thats not enough to try and pick up any other ammunition the Feds attended the '06 Miami Internext show incognito. So all you smoking dope and snorting coke....your now on their radar.

All defendants are currently in jail in Pensicola.

Oprano will be recieving a statement from both Ray Guhn and Andy Craft in the next few days.

Hipchick · 08-12-2008

Umm.. Just to make things clear..The employee and girlfriend that turned on Ray Guhn WAS NOT Jim Manley aka Andy Craft and his girlfriend. That would be me and I was at that internext. Just wanted to clear that up before anyone made assumptions. I will leave it up to you to put the pieces together of who is the real shitbag.

Hipchick · 08-12-2008

Here is the news article

http://www.pnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...NTPAGECAROUSEL

this quote basically sums up the truth..

NO illegal acts were commited by Mr. McCowen. This was a clear case of DA abuse. All taxes were paid, all legal docs were in place and all requirements for opperating a 100% LEGAL adult content site were followed. No person under age of 18 was ever involved. In fact the judges summary states thet there were no grounds for any of the other charges brought against Mr McCowen. Some grey areas were infringed on by the employees, but all in all it came down to the DA's office bankrupting everyone involved and refusing to end this fiasco unless everyone pled to something. No details are listed about the "illegal wire transfer". No evidence at all making this a "deal" between the DA and the courts just to see this all go away. The statutes sugest an 8 to 10 months suspended sentence for this, but the DA's office threatened to proceed with it and tie up the court for months if there wasnt "heavy" punishment. Russ Edgar is a blight on this country and this state, as well as his profession!

DannyCox · 08-12-2008

It's really too bad that the guys didn't get a real attorney for this, and not just someone who plays one on the Internet (just my opinion). I'm sure it would have gone a lot better for them.

When is the appeal happening?

softball · 08-12-2008

the most expensive thing you will ever buy is a cheap attorney.

RawAlex · 08-12-2008

This case once again touches on the problem of producing porn in the US and what certain DAs with an agenda will do to shut you down.

Sadly, it would appear that his lawyers gave him somewhat less than the best advice (my opinion only) because they seem to have negotiated a settlement WITHOUT specifying the punishment, and as a result, he gets 4 years on a charge that most people would get a slap on the hands and a gentle financial reaming on.

The intenation was to stop the production of porn, and the DA has succeeded in that regard. Too bad Ray and others will have to take it up the ass for a while as a result.

Forest · 08-12-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonzo

If thats not enough to try and pick up any other ammunition the Feds attended the '06 Miami Internext show incognito. So all you smoking dope and snorting coke....your now on their radar.

think they got pics of my pool side blow job?

Oh wait that was 2003. Phew Im safe

ali25extreme · 08-12-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forest

think they got pics of my pool side blow job?

Oh wait that was 2003. Phew Im safe

So far!!

Still going thru my pics..ya never know what I might have..

Forest · 08-12-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by ali25extreme

So far!!

Still going thru my pics..ya never know what I might have..

Curses foiled again

Hammer · 08-14-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhetorical

the most expensive thing you will ever buy is a cheap attorney.

ummmm... Larry Walters is far from cheap. Maybe not good but certainly not cheap.

DannyCox · 08-14-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammer

Maybe not good but certainly not cheap.

in your opinion

(add that qualifier, and it limits your liability in what's being said since it's now just a personal opinion and not libelous)

softball · 08-14-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by DannyCox

in your opinion

(add that qualifier, and it limits your liability in what's being said since it's now just a personal opinion and not libelous)

Don't you think the "maybe" is a qualifier?

RawAlex · 08-14-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhetorical

the most expensive thing you will ever buy is a cheap attorney.

Actually, possibly the most expensive thing you can get is an attorney that loves to talk a good game and then remarkably encourages everyone to plea bargain.

But hey.

softball · 08-14-2008

So does anyone know Mr. Walter's track record? First I heard of him was a case where he defended Becka Lynn, who I believe went on to be a c and w singer.

DannyCox · 08-14-2008

He also defended Barbi from blondflasher.com when she had the site barbieflashes.com. This was way back in 1998 or 1999. Mattel sued them and Larry recommended they settle out of court for $5K. The thing is, she had been know as Barbie since she was a child and wasn't infringing on the trade mark in any way. It was just a nonsense case that would have been immediately thrown out.

08-12-2008	#1
gonzo Fat Fucking Nobody Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta,Ga. Posts: 17,795 Blog Entries: 11	Ray Guhn sentenced to 4 years Sordid tale. He gets cops the guilty plea for a light sentence as opposed to taking his chances. The untold peice of the puzzle is an employee on the inside violated his probation and tuned states witness. Cash Titians affilaite money was filerted into a girlfriends account to the total of 65K and then turned over to the Feds. Same employee wiretapped conversation in an effort to coerce information for the case. Turned over all Cash Titians affilate information....so if you are like me you are again on the Feds radar. If thats not enough to try and pick up any other ammunition the Feds attended the '06 Miami Internext show incognito. So all you smoking dope and snorting coke....your now on their radar. All defendants are currently in jail in Pensicola. Oprano will be recieving a statement from both Ray Guhn and Andy Craft in the next few days. __________________ We are putting the bastards of this world on notice; greed and corruption will always be met with "a voice made of ink and rage." "Never try and be like anyone else" - Hunter S. Thompson "The truth is the truth no matter how you try and package a lie" - Shellee Hale

08-12-2008	#2
Hipchick Approving Gay AVS Sites Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North Ga Posts: 59	Re: Ray Guhn sentenced to 4 years Umm.. Just to make things clear..The employee and girlfriend that turned on Ray Guhn WAS NOT Jim Manley aka Andy Craft and his girlfriend. That would be me and I was at that internext. Just wanted to clear that up before anyone made assumptions. I will leave it up to you to put the pieces together of who is the real shitbag.

08-12-2008	#3
Hipchick Approving Gay AVS Sites Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North Ga Posts: 59	Re: Ray Guhn sentenced to 4 years Here is the news article http://www.pnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...NTPAGECAROUSEL this quote basically sums up the truth.. NO illegal acts were commited by Mr. McCowen. This was a clear case of DA abuse. All taxes were paid, all legal docs were in place and all requirements for opperating a 100% LEGAL adult content site were followed. No person under age of 18 was ever involved. In fact the judges summary states thet there were no grounds for any of the other charges brought against Mr McCowen. Some grey areas were infringed on by the employees, but all in all it came down to the DA's office bankrupting everyone involved and refusing to end this fiasco unless everyone pled to something. No details are listed about the "illegal wire transfer". No evidence at all making this a "deal" between the DA and the courts just to see this all go away. The statutes sugest an 8 to 10 months suspended sentence for this, but the DA's office threatened to proceed with it and tie up the court for months if there wasnt "heavy" punishment. Russ Edgar is a blight on this country and this state, as well as his profession!

08-12-2008	#4
DannyCox I like cheese Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal, QC, CA Posts: 1,185	Re: Ray Guhn sentenced to 4 years It's really too bad that the guys didn't get a real attorney for this, and not just someone who plays one on the Internet (just my opinion). I'm sure it would have gone a lot better for them. When is the appeal happening? __________________ iAmateurs Network Amateur Niche Affiliate Programs

08-12-2008	#5
softball Members Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,165	Re: Ray Guhn sentenced to 4 years the most expensive thing you will ever buy is a cheap attorney.

08-12-2008	#6
RawAlex Members $100 for every ImLive sign-up Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,036	Re: Ray Guhn sentenced to 4 years This case once again touches on the problem of producing porn in the US and what certain DAs with an agenda will do to shut you down. Sadly, it would appear that his lawyers gave him somewhat less than the best advice (my opinion only) because they seem to have negotiated a settlement WITHOUT specifying the punishment, and as a result, he gets 4 years on a charge that most people would get a slap on the hands and a gentle financial reaming on. The intenation was to stop the production of porn, and the DA has succeeded in that regard. Too bad Ray and others will have to take it up the ass for a while as a result. __________________ Let's go to the edge of disaster Push the pedal and go a little faster Let's slam into a wall at ramming speed Let's go to the edge of a mountain Jump off and lets start countin' Hit the ground and tell me if it bleeds

08-14-2008	#14
softball Members Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,165	Re: Ray Guhn sentenced to 4 years So does anyone know Mr. Walter's track record? First I heard of him was a case where he defended Becka Lynn, who I believe went on to be a c and w singer.