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Old 02-26-2004   #1
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and Janet's tits on TV being the biggest USA problem-
if election were held today-
I'd vore Kerry,
just because he si not Bush
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I am not convinced this is the case.

I am far from happy with Bush, but I still think he is better then Kerry.
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Yeah, I hate when th country goes right and right.....

Especially when they're doing the country two step....

Just keep going right and right...

Makes you want to get up in their face and say, LEFT Dammit, GO LEFT, for once in your little weenie dancing cowboy lifes go to the fucking left !!!!!....

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I am not convinced this is the case.

I am far from happy with Bush, but I still think he is better then Kerry.
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I can only deliver Kerry the state of Florida....
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BTW, MikeAI, Kerry's wife is one of us...
she is worth just $600,000,000.....

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BTW, MikeAI, Kerry's wife is one of us...
she is worth just $600,000,000.....

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No she is not one of us. She did not EARN her money.... he got it from marrying well and the guy dying.
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This is why Bush is in serious trouble....he's pushing the traditional conservative base away by being a right-wing nutcase. Despite how people might feel personally about gays getting married, I bet it worries them that such a thing would be important enough to a president to require a limiting of something that should be nobodies business.

It must be in the genes...win over the nation, only to lose it by being a dumbass...
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This is why Bush is in serious trouble....he's pushing the traditional conservative base away by being a right-wing nutcase. Despite how people might feel personally about gays getting married, I bet it worries them that such a thing would be important enough to a president to require a limiting of something that should be nobodies business.

It must be in the genes...win over the nation, only to lose it by being a dumbass...

I think you are right with that.

But its not the marriage thign that is causing his problems.
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I've always thought (hoped?) that a LOT of GW's support was very thin.

Assuming Kerry wraps it up on "Super Tuesday", it will be interesting to see if Bush's #s stay down after his opponent is identified.
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I hate to say it, but I do not feel good about Bush's chances at the time.

However, I will work to change it.
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If Kerry gets elected, at least we'll be spared Hillary in 2008....
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If Kerry gets elected, at least we'll be spared Hillary in 2008....

Possitive thinking!!

That is why there are some right wing kooks who are hoping the "Clinton machine" under cuts Kerry.
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IMH (canadian not important doesn't matter apparently pinko commie)O, what you are seeing from Bush and co right now is NOTHING compared to what you will see once they get a second mandate. I suspect that you will see the whole "faith based" everything come out to haunt us all.

Janet's tit was just a tipping point, finally pushing public opinion far enough over to make it possible for these people to act. The FCC I am a MORON, got in there first, and when everyone else saw no real negative feedback on the issue, they all piled on.

It plays well to a select group of ULTRA conservatives, but it doesn't play well with the Bubba "let's blow some muslims up" group.... they like porn, they want to see Janet's tit, and they think Stern is funny.

JMHO, of course.

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IMH (canadian not important doesn't matter apparently pinko commie)O, what you are seeing from Bush and co right now is NOTHING compared to what you will see once they get a second mandate. I suspect that you will see the whole "faith based" everything come out to haunt us all.

Janet's tit was just a tipping point, finally pushing public opinion far enough over to make it possible for these people to act. The FCC I am a MORON, got in there first, and when everyone else saw no real negative feedback on the issue, they all piled on.

It plays well to a select group of ULTRA conservatives, but it doesn't play well with the Bubba "let's blow some muslims up" group.... they like porn, they want to see Janet's tit, and they think Stern is funny.

JMHO, of course.

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Yep!

Then Bush is going to lead invasion of Canada and France!

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"But its not the marriage thign that is causing his problems."

Agreed.
He promised smaller gov't and he's gone in there and spent like Imelda Marcos on a shoe spree.
He promised to get jobs back - which has happened - but he's laid down a plan to give jobs to illegal aliens rather than legal citizens.
He's nearly erased the border between the US and Mexico.
He has taken the "amiable negotiator" role a little too far and has yet to veto anything that's been put before him, no matter how fatty it is.
He brought about the creation of the Patriot Act.
He allowed US citizens captured on US soil to sit in a jail without contact with lawyers or family members for a year and a half rather than giving them due process and respecting their rights as citizens.
Don't even get me started on the bullshit he laid out in the State of the Union speech - I sat through most of it with my jaw hanging open wondering if he'd changed the letter after his name to "SSD" (super spending Democrat).
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"But its not the marriage thign that is causing his problems."

Agreed.
He promised smaller gov't and he's gone in there and spent like Imelda Marcos on a shoe spree.
He promised to get jobs back - which has happened - but he's laid down a plan to give jobs to illegal aliens rather than legal citizens.
He's nearly erased the border between the US and Mexico.
He has taken the "amiable negotiator" role a little too far and has yet to veto anything that's been put before him, no matter how fatty it is.
He brought about the creation of the Patriot Act.
He allowed US citizens captured on US soil to sit in a jail without contact with lawyers or family members for a year and a half rather than giving them due process and respecting their rights as citizens.
Don't even get me started on the bullshit he laid out in the State of the Union speech - I sat through most of it with my jaw hanging open wondering if he'd changed the letter after his name to "SSD" (super spending Democrat).

Carrie, I cannot find fault with most of these statements!!
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All true...

But unfortunately, the alternative is shaping up to be a democrat who is going to be very weak on protecting the country against additional terrorist attacks.

The U.N. is a joke.

If you think jobs are a problem now, imagine what our economy would do at this point if say a dirty nuke were popped in D.C. Makes me wanna convert my portfolio to all cash just thinking about it...
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Wow. Everyone on Oprano pretty much in agreement on politics.
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This is why Bush is in serious trouble....he's pushing the traditional conservative base away by being a right-wing nutcase. Despite how people might feel personally about gays getting married, I bet it worries them that such a thing would be important enough to a president to require a limiting of something that should be nobodies business.

It must be in the genes...win over the nation, only to lose it by being a dumbass...
yeap, you nailed it.

If he can drive ME into Democrats hands-
how many more "mid-size" Republicans can he deliver to Kerry?????

I do NOT trust people who claim to have God as their boss....what he proposes as Constitutional Amendment,
will be the FIRST in the history of USA:
LIMITING Civil Rights instead of expanding them!

one line from Dan's Brown book "Digital Fortress" plays in my head:
"Who is gonna oversee the overseers"????

God??? I'd like to hear that from God personally.
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I hate to say it, but I do not feel good about Bush's chances at the time.

However, I will work to change it.
ahhhh...political split at Oprano...
let's see who does the better job!
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flipfloppers, a year ago your were balls deep on Bush cock.
a year ago he was saving the country,
today he is saving his soul.

you are 100%, I am flexable and follow FACTS and not doctrines taught by kooks proffesors with no clue.

If you had brains which can analyze instead of memorizing,
this would be obvious to you.

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flipfloppers, a year ago your were balls deep on Bush cock.
I might change my mind 100x. Consistency is a trap.
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My biggest fear of Bush being re-elected is that he'll take the leash off of that jackass Ashcroft.

Have you guys seen http://www.dearmary.com/ ?

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President Bush and far-right extremists want to add anti-gay language to the US Constitution. As the openly lesbian daughter of Vice President Cheney, Mary Cheney is uniquely situated to help her community in this dire hour. She already has a history of publicly working on gay rights issues, from her time as a paid gay liaison for Coors and serving on the board of the Republican Unity Coalition (a gay Republican group devoted to stamping out anti-gay prejudice in the Republican Party). Now that Mary's father has said he would support adding anti-gay prejudice to the US Constitution, we believe Mary has a unique opportunity here to do the right thing and make a difference.
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The two major political parties in the US both have their share of positive and negatives. For me, it's about getting the right balance of them over time. I'd like to operate my business without fear of governmental interference and I'd like to pay less taxes so I can reinvest more of that money, purchase more goods, hire more employees and so on. I'd like a mostly libertarian atmosphere for both businesses and individuals. I'd like some social nets but not too many.

Right now, I'd like to see Kerry with a Republican majority congress



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And look how Russia, Germany, and Roman Catholicism ended up.

Someone should put you out of your misery.

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at certain points of time that what it takes for the good of the nation.
Ask those who fell victim to those regimes you outlined if it was for the good of the "nation".

Take your ginko Spooge.
sure, let's take a look...
1) Russia - nuclear superpower who can inahilate the Earth if releases it's nuclear arsenal...
how many more countries in the world can boast that?

2) Germany - second richest country on Earth after USA
(see yesterday's poll) measured by number of billionairs

3) Catholicism:
World leading religion with assets enough to build paradise on Earth if they chose to.

I LOVE when my opponents just beat themselves into the pulp
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have any more examples to prove MY point?????

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Ask those who fell victim to those regimes you outlined if it was for the good of the "nation".

Take your ginko Spooge.

..and should I weap for a poor Brittish soldiers who perished during the American Revolution?????
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Janet's tit was just a tipping point,
heh heh
maybe you didnt intend that pun but it was funny none the less


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You are like arguing with a college freshman.

I could just sit here and list off a long list of how Russia is now a third world shithole, Germany only succeeds now due to Allied reconstruction, and how the Catholic church is in the process of dying in western nations, reduced to a third world faith of pedophile priests and false xtian doctrine.

But that would be stating the obvious.

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Opponent? You are my intellectual inferior, I do not even view you as a challenge. The only thing that comes to mind when I think of Serge is "overrated".
I AM arguing with a college student,
glad you stated the obvious
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yes, Russia is a 3rd country shithole which STILL can inahilate Detroit with Labret in it.
go figure....

if Germany succeeded due to Allied Reconstruction,
do you see Iraq succeeding? your own logic says YES, therefore you are a supporter of the Bush's efforts, even though you publically stated you were not...at least I KNOW where I am,
and don't need labrets to spell it for me
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every mutt with no pedegree beleives they are superior to purebreds...
get over it, boy, your bark is stronger than your bite...like every self respecting MUTT would know.
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my piss built my nest egg:
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it ain't the myth
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what exactly your pissing skills brought you?
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and if you think for a moment I let you off the hook to skip your falling logic and total lack of understanding of global politics, history, society development and switch attention to personal attacks-
you are mistaken,
I won't let it hapopen,
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Yeah, I hate when th country goes right and right.....

Especially when they're doing the country two step....

Just keep going right and right...

Makes you want to get up in their face and say, LEFT Dammit, GO LEFT, for once in your little weenie dancing cowboy lifes go to the fucking left !!!!!....
The country went left for 40 years; and look where it got us. The rest of the world is still going left...let THEM do it! America SHOULD be different!

BTW, before you rag on Bush and us Conservatives too much, take a look at the unemployment rate, inflation, taxes, etc. in the country you love so much and yet refuse to move to. While you're at it, check out the price of airfare (one-way)...I'm sure they'd love for someone, ANYONE, to go the other way. Why the hell, if this country is so damned bad, do so many people want to get here so badly; and why don't all the ones who spend so much time bitching want to leave?
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I've always thought (hoped?) that a LOT of GW's support was very thin.

Assuming Kerry wraps it up on "Super Tuesday", it will be interesting to see if Bush's #s stay down after his opponent is identified.
Kerry and his ilk have had all this time to do nothing but attack with no reprisals. He has the media behind him; but has anyone ever asked him any hard questions?

BTW, about the UN...watch Haiti.
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here is MY list of "wrongs":

1) The present powers claim GOD to be their boss,
thus eliminating ANYT responcibility before the people.
This is NOT an American way of
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2) every time the pendalum swings to the extreme, it destroys the balance we all enjoy so much
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Why the hell, if this country is so damned bad, do so many people want to get here so badly; and why don't all the ones who spend so much time bitching want to leave?
Who said the country was bad?
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Right now, I'd like to see Kerry with a Republican majority congress
Might result in an incredibly ineffective presidency, republicans dont like to work *with* democratic presidents.

And as far as terror attacks go... i mean simply as a #'s game here... we've had what.. ONE TERROR ATTACK IN THE HISTORY OF THE COUNTRY???? and this is grounds to devote the entire government to god?

MORE PEOPLE DIE FROM THE COMMON COLD THAN FROM TERRORISM EACH YEAR.

Fighting terrorism isnt about saving people or protecting people, it's about uniting people against a "bad guy". The very same reason that the middle eastern dictators are able to actually get a following is because they scream "those dirty americans!".

Nothing unites people like fear and hate. Kinda sad.
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Might result in an incredibly ineffective presidency, republicans dont like to work *with* democratic presidents.
Exactly what I am hoping for. Status quo.
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Liberal Idiots! You didn't read my posts properly.

Why, if this country is so bad, are you still here? Canada to the north, Mexico to the south...you HAVE choices. In fact, if the people from those countries keep moving here, you can have it pretty much to yourself in either place.

BTW, why DO you think they leave there to come here? Could it be for the very much lower tax rates, the economic opportunities, etc. which the Socialist Democommies want to do away with in favor of the mediocrity of Socialism/Communism?

Here's a little to think about:

Kerry has no core belief except the belief that (after 50 years of being there) the Democommies BELONG in power. He has advanced no plan except to bring this country into line with the Socialist community and put our defense into the incapable hands of the UN. He wants a 70% tax rate and confiscation of all income over a preset amount. The man is a COMMUNIST who is simply labeling himself a Democrat. Research the traitor, and discover what he is besides a gigolo...
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you called me...Liberal?????????

I'd turn in my grave if I was dead....stop working on it,
heart attack is NOT how I plan on going
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Here's a little to think about:

Kerry has no core belief except the belief that (after 50 years of being there) the Democommies BELONG in power. He has advanced no plan except to bring this country into line with the Socialist community and put our defense into the incapable hands of the UN. He wants a 70% tax rate and confiscation of all income over a preset amount. The man is a COMMUNIST who is simply labeling himself a Democrat. Research the traitor, and discover what he is besides a gigolo...
after thinking about it,
I have only one question:
have you made your own research and can back it all up with FACTS,
or you singing the tune you heard from another ignoramus on the radio?

Flynt can't back up with facts the "abortion story"
(or he wouldn't be shooting blanks NOW and waited for the time when it matters)
and neither can your "preacher" back up the gigollo story.

now YOU think about it......
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Kerry has no core belief except the belief that (after 50 years of being there) the Democommies BELONG in power.
Look at the people on this board who normally sit somewhere in the middle politically. They are not pro-Kerry. They are anti-social conservatism.
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even Popes were good for Italy in 12-14th centuries, as they UNITED Italy from feuding barons into a country.
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