Fucking Fat Forest

[Forest]

after seeing my pics from Photogreggs party I am going on a diet

im currently 216 FUCKIN FAT my ideal weight according to my height is 173 hahahahaha I havent been that in 15 years!!!

I start the atkins diet today

we should start an Oprano pool and see who can pick how much weight i will lose in the first 30days

well its either the Low Carb High protien diet or

anirexia

LOL

[photogregg]

$10 says you'll "gain" 10 pounds in 30 days

With as many wild women as you have running around you can't help but going into the "oral gratification" mode.

[Almighty Colin]

16 pounds.

[Mike AI]

Good luck Forest!!!

[twinkley]

Hmmmm Good Luck Forest!!

Want a partner in crime?? heheheh I need to lose about 25 pounds total....

Would like to lose at least 10 by pheonix....

twinkley

hey Forest...

I didn't like my pics from that party either.
I knew I had gained weight, but jeez... the pics tell it all!


Maybe it was the camera... ???

[photogregg]

Forest and Susan,
Blame the pics on Marcella...told her not to use the "wide angle" lens

[Forest]

Originally posted by Susan@Mar 11 2003, 06:57 AM
hey Forest...

I didn't like my pics from that party either.
I knew I had gained weight, but jeez... the pics tell it all!


Maybe it was the camera... ???

IT WAS THE CAMERA!!!!!!!!!


hahahaha dont I wish!!!

twinkey Sure jump on the scale

Mike and gang THANKS for the support

Gregg all the wild women should help me BURN calories no???

[Forest]

the ONE good thing about atkins is i get too eat all sorts of good shit

But NOOOO SUGAR OR WINEEEEE

=(((((((((((((((((((((((((((

[Anthony]

Forest...

Merely stopping your carb intake won't get you to the level you want. Excercise! Walk 30 minutes to an hour every night when it's cool. Take the mutt for a walk, enjoy the florida landscape. Just stay away from the mountains of Coral Springs. You could die walking close to that!

[TheEnforcer]

Here's what will happen. You'll stay on the Atkins diet for about 5-6 months and actually get down to about 185-190 or so but as is often the case with the Atkins diet you'll go off it and gain it all back plus about 10 more pounds.

[DrGuile]

I could loose 40pounds or so...

but Im not fat, Im big boned

[Peaches]

Originally posted by DrGuile@Mar 11 2003, 06:47 PM
I could loose 40pounds or so...

but Im not fat, Im big boned

I'm not overweight, I'm undertall

[Dianna Vesta]

Forest you have the type of body that just needs to work out. You really don't eat bad food. Get one of those total gym things on TV, they work great, only cost two hundred bucks and you can do it 20 minutes a day. You'll see a big difference.

I never had much luck on Atkins. I need fruit and some sugar.

I've lost weight just since I bought this land. OMG, tomorrow AM, bright and early I pick up two homeless pigs. Between running to my mom's four days a week, building animal pens, putting up fence, yadda yadda, you stay pretty damn fit. Once I get my stables in you can come out here. You'll loose weight.

Seriously, don't do the diet roller coaster. Eat the foods you love, drink your wine and just work out. You also need to get out of the house more and in the fresh air.

DV

[VooMan]

I'm with you Dianna...

I am currently tipping the scales at just over 200 pounds. Not good considering I am most comfortable at 160. I tried Atkins a while back, and it's nice to know I'm not the only one who didn't have any success. I'm not a fan of extremely limiting *diets* but I met many people who did fantastic on Atkins. My sister lost a ton of weight and never felt better in her life. I gave it a shot for a month, never got into ketosis, and never felt worse. When I added the carbs back into my diet I didn't tell anyone at the office, but they noticed... One person actually asked me how the diet was going and when I told her I had quit a few days prior she said "I knew it." When I asked how she knew she said I was "back to my old self..." Apparently, all protein and no carbs makes Andrew a dull boy. hahaha She told me I was very quiet and subdued while I was on the diet, and not my usual happy-go-lucky self... I decided to just cut back on the eating and increase the exercise, and that seems to be working. It's going slowly, but at least I'm in a good mood.

There is no substitute for good old fashioned hard work though. I used to work in a cabinet shop and do yard work & cut firewood on the weekends. I was never in better shape...

Let us know how it goes Forest. I'm not putting down Atkins, as I know a lot of people who have done extremely well on it. Good luck to ya.

[Rolo]

Originally posted by Forest@Mar 11 2003, 05:01 AM
we should start an Oprano pool and see who can pick how much weight i will lose in the first 30days

Depends on when the weighing will take place... before or after a visit to the toilet... The human body usual produce 100-200 grams of shit per day, however some are more full of shit than others ;-)))

I´m cheering for you Forest - I have been there... the first 1-2 weeks are always the hardest - hope you make it

My guess is 12 pounds! in 30 days!

[MikeW]

VooMan,

I did pretty good on Atkins - lost about 14lbs in 3 weeks, felt absolutely incredible and have kept it off ... BUT I didnt' follow through and stick to the diet to lose any additional weight. My love of wines, scotch and going to dinner with Serge pretty much limited my amount of TRUE committment to a carb free diet LOL ;-))

[TheEnforcer]

Hmm.. maybe I ought to add good luck to ya and I hope you find something that works for ya so I don't sound like too much of an asshole!! :P

[VooMan]

Hi Mike, how've you been?

Yeah, I've heard about so many people who did well on Atkins. I don't know what's different about me, but man I couldn't hack it. I'll lose this weight if it kills me though. haha

[Peaches]

If I would just walk down to the lake, back to the house, then up and down my damn driveway ONCE a day, I'd be fine, lol! I have a freaking stairmaster right there

[VooMan]

Hey Peaches,

I've got a Life Cycle... wanna trade?

[Forest]

Originally posted by Anthony@Mar 11 2003, 11:38 AM
Forest...

Merely stopping your carb intake won't get you to the level you want. Excercise! Walk 30 minutes to an hour every night when it's cool. Take the mutt for a walk, enjoy the florida landscape. Just stay away from the mountains of Coral Springs. You could die walking close to that!

Ant
I know I know

I sit behind this fucking box all day/night

[Forest]

Originally posted by TheEnforcer@Mar 11 2003, 06:00 PM
Hmm.. maybe I ought to add good luck to ya and I hope you find something that works for ya so I don't sound like too much of an asshole!! :P

TE

we all know u better than that man

[Forest]

Seriously, don't do the diet roller coaster. Eat the foods you love, drink your wine and just work out. You also need to get out of the house more and in the fresh air.

DV
_______________________________________

DV
U KNOW i need to get out of this house you above anyone know how I work!

LOL

These fucking girls are killing me

[kath]

I did Atkins from June - September last year and lost 52 pounds. When I went "off" the diet between September - January 1st (my doc advised 3 months on, 3 months off) I didn't gain ANY weight back. Although I admit, being on Atkins did change how I made my food choices. I didn't pick pasta or breads like I used to - and sugary things were just too sweet, so I kept up with the Splenda in my coffee and even in the holiday cookies I made for the family.

When I went back on however I lost another 13 pounds and then got STUCK. Couldn't lose another pound - and then the new 13 came back. I recently went back on (this week) and dropped 5 pounds in about 4 days. Not bad.

But Anthony is 100% CORRECT. It's the exercize. I think the difference between my summer loss and my problems with loss in the winter is the exercize. In the summer I was swimming every day for at least 30 minutes, just laps back and forth. Now the water is still too cold and with my back problems I really can't do much else. Going to try some walking this weekend though and see if that boosts it and HOPE that it warms up so I can jump in the pool.

Good luck Forest - my bet (if you stay on it and DRINK YOUR WATER!!! 1 oz for each pound - that's 217 ounces each day!!!) is that you'll lose 15 in 3 weeks - maybe more. My hubby did SO much better on this plan than me - you guys have an advantage. He could eat steak every day and not get sick of it - I need to have something different for a change. lol

[Forest]

Kath

Thanks for the positive story!!! gives me hope

I am DRIINNKKKKIIINNGGGGG so much fucking water I get up 3 time in the nite just to pissss
LOL

yesterday I drank almost 5 liters. I have 3 1.5 water bottles that i put 1/2 full in the freezer over night and fill and drink them all day and they stay COOOLLLLDDDDD.

its been so hot here lately that the lake temp is almost back to 78f so im going for a swimmm instead of walking

If I dont post again you know the resident Alligator got me

apow:

[VooMan]

Hmmmm.... maybe it was the water...

I don't drink much water. Is that why I never got into ketosis and felt like crap the whole time?

[Forest]

Voo

every board I read about low carb says drink as much water as u can possible handle especially durring the induction

im day 2 lol

[Peaches]

Originally posted by VooMan@Mar 12 2003, 04:11 PM
Hmmmm.... maybe it was the water...

I don't drink much water. Is that why I never got into ketosis and felt like crap the whole time?

Yes, that's why you never got into ketosis, but I got into ketosis and still felt like crap I think it was because I missed the bread, potatoes and sweets so much

[VooMan]

Well then maybe it's worth another shot for me. I would like nothing more than to get this damn 45 pounds off. Then I can go back to being the face in the mirror that I recognize....

Okay well, almost the face I recognize. There's some hair missing from my forehead, but I don't see that coming back any time soon. I guess I'm just not 22 anymore...

hahaha

Hey Forest, you have some links to low carb boards you like? Post 'em, would ya?

[Peaches]

Shoot, Voo, I've got tons (pun intended) of links. They're in IE. Tell me how to put them in a file and I'll email them to you. there are message boards, places where you can buy pre-packaged food, etc.

Maybe when the kid leaves, I'll try it again. There's no way to do it with him around :angry:

[Forest]

http://atkinscenter.com/Archive/2001/12/15-464579.html

http://www.thinner.com/

http://www.atkinsfriends.com/carbcounter.shtml

http://www.lowcarb.ca/low-carb-recipes.html

Go for it dude!!!

[VooMan]

Cool, thanks Forest.

Nice avatar as well... I always loved Calvin and Hobbes.

Peaches, if you export your favorites they will go into an html file. You can delete all the other links and just send me the ones for the low carb stuff. It looks like Forest gave me a good start though, so if you're feeling lazy it's okay.

[Peaches]

Originally posted by VooMan@Mar 12 2003, 05:33 PM
Peaches, if you export your favorites they will go into an html file. You can delete all the other links and just send me the ones for the low carb stuff. It looks like Forest gave me a good start though, so if you're feeling lazy it's okay.

I sent you an email - LMK if you didn't get it and I'll try whatever the heck it is you just said

[VooMan]

I got your email Peaches, thanks.

For IE, if you want to put your favorites into an html file all you need to do is export them... Open IE, go to file -- import and export, follow the steps to export your favorites, save the file, and you'll have an html page with all your favorites broken down by folders...

[cj]

at christmas I started a new diet which follows the atkins principal but slightly different, no gluten, no sugar, no dairy and no acids

after removing the bread and pasta from my diet, and concentrating on fruits and vegetables for the first 4 weeks, I went from 170 pounds to 130 ... the weight literally fell of, and thats without any excercise at all ...

I have since added some things back into my diet and occasionally eat bread and pasta, but I find that like kath said, I just don't feel like those things as much any more. pasta is too heavy ... I choose rice over pasta and cornchips over cookies ...

my biggest problem was sugar, coming off the sugar was like quitting a drug LOL I had sugar shakes for days at a time, and eventually would give in and drink a powerade or eat a lolly.

since adding some things back into my diet, i've put back about 10 pounds, but it doesn't seem like i'm putting on any more.

the principal of atkins is that your body uses the carbs you eat first, before it burns energy from your body - so if you eat a big bowl of pasta, your body is working hard to get rid of it and will never start working on that ass! of course you will put weight back on if you put carbs back into your diet, the weight was lost because you didn't eat them!

now i wish i could pick an excercise I like ... i've tried lots of types of excercise and i hate feeling like i'm excercising. my latest fad is yoga, i've just completed a course on digestive yoga, to help the body process food better ... we'll see how long this lasts!!!

[Peaches]

Originally posted by cj@Mar 12 2003, 08:03 PM
at christmas I started a new diet which follows the atkins principal but slightly different, no gluten, no sugar, no dairy and no acids

cj - do you have a link or something that has what's good/bad to eat on the plan? I only do well on very controlled environments <_<

[cj]

Peaches, I was given a specific outline by my natropath on what foods are good and bad for me specifically, not for the purpose of weight loss but to create a 'healthy body' ...

different blood groups require different types of foods, and break them down differently ... so a 'plan' can only really be set by an expert.

I have found natropaths to be GENIUSES with this ...

Much of the time when we try to 'diet' we cut out fat and sugar and carbs but forget to replace what we are taking away with alternatives or replacements. those replacement foods are different for everyone ... for me, its green vegetables - i have to eat at least 1 serve per day ... supposedly they help the digestive system break down the rest of the food - including sugar and fat.

where's that chocolate bar!!! ;-)

i have been on this diet now for almost 3 months, and i have not felt healthier in several years.

[Peaches]

Originally posted by cj@Mar 12 2003, 09:41 PM
different blood groups require different types of foods, and break them down differently ... so a 'plan' can only really be set by an expert.

I have found natropaths to be GENIUSES with this ...

Different blood groups i.e. different blood TYPES, or do they test for other things? I'd love to look into this as I've always suspected part my migraines were due to foods, but I've never been able to pin point them, and goodness knows I've tried

[cj]

types, yes ... 0 + or 0 - or AB- etc

the questions he asked me when he was putting together my plan was blood group, and gross toilet related stuff like the smell and look of *ahem*.
moving on.

natropaths also look at your tongue, fingernails and eyes to look at what existing over/under's you have in your system - the liver, kidneys and every vital organ sends messages to your eyes, nails and tongue. because of my lifelong sugar addiction my system is super acidic, and with acidity comes heartburn and potential peptic ulcers ... amazing but he pinpointed many things i've never even realized were wrong based on this ...

i am trying to find a site i looked at a few months ago without much luck, its got a bunch of tongue diagrams that show how they read it ...

this is interesting ...
natropath techniques vs doctor techniques

[Peaches]

Thanks, cj! My Mom's a midwife, one of my sisters is a massage therapist (Christmas and bday gifts are GREAT!!) and one of my brothers has a doctorate in bio genetics, so between the three of them, one will surely know what I'm talking about when I bring it up, lol! I'm going to print that site out also. I want to see if they are finding out anything regarding migraines! Thanks again!!!

[cj]

there's nothing more empowering than the first time you hear something useful ;-)

I hope you find a useful path soon ;-)

[RawAlex]

cj, one of the biggest ongoing problems for most people (myself included) is that we live with a high sugar high starch low nutritional diet - we almost all over eat, we almost all overdo suger, and we suffer as a result. Our bodies adapt as best they can to the onslaught, up to a point.

The amount of adult onset diabetes is scary.

There is one thing common to ALL diets, ALL nutritional guides, and basic common sense: Drink alot of water. Your body is highly liquid, and the amount of water you put through your body has a big effect on how well your kidneys and liver end up working. They are the filters, and they need the water going through to keep the filters clean. Don't clean the filters, and the results are toxic.

Peaches, have you ever been asked to do a full log for your migrains? Dates, times, meals, weather, humidity, blood pressure, etc?

Alex

[VooMan]

Hey Peaches,

http://www.naturopathic.org/

I found some useful information on the site, as well as links to Naturopathic Doctors in Georgia.

[Peaches]

Originally posted by RawAlex@Mar 12 2003, 11:57 PM
Peaches, have you ever been asked to do a full log for your migrains? Dates, times, meals, weather, humidity, blood pressure, etc?

Alex

Yes, but I haven't done it in years (like 22-25 years), so doing it again would be advised, lol! They're VERY hormonal. I've told the dr's that I've finished using everything and it's OK if they take it all out

Weather pressure is a factor. I can tell when a high front is coming. High blood pressure is also, and thankfully I have very low blood pressure. Lack of sleep, or TOO much sleep can get me The regular food triggers don't get me like cheeses, wines, red meat, etc. I have the common migraine, not the classic one - I don't get the auras.

So...if I'm PMSing, there's a storm front coming, I'm upset about something, and I haven't had much sleep - I usually take a handful of imitrex, some pain pills, ice packs, and hang out in a dark room for a few days. Yeehaw, I'm fun then!

I found some useful information on the site, as well as links to Naturopathic Doctors in Georgia.

Thanks, Voo! You'd think there'd be more than FOUR in all of Georgia!

[VooMan]

This is true... But, it's a start. I find the idea very interesting myself. I tend to lean towards the holistic approach. Don't know why I didn't think of it before. Thanks CJ.

[cj]

Originally posted by RawAlex@Mar 12 2003, 10:57 PM
cj, one of the biggest ongoing problems for most people (myself included) is that we live with a high sugar high starch low nutritional diet - we almost all over eat, we almost all overdo suger, and we suffer as a result. Our bodies adapt as best they can to the onslaught, up to a point.

The amount of adult onset diabetes is scary.

There is one thing common to ALL diets, ALL nutritional guides, and basic common sense: Drink alot of water. Your body is highly liquid, and the amount of water you put through your body has a big effect on how well your kidneys and liver end up working. They are the filters, and they need the water going through to keep the filters clean. Don't clean the filters, and the results are toxic.

Peaches, have you ever been asked to do a full log for your migrains? Dates, times, meals, weather, humidity, blood pressure, etc?

Alex

very true alex ...

what you described in your first paragraph pretty much sums up my problem ;-)

i started a serious intake of water about 8 months ago, and the natropath told me I would have shut down months sooner if I hadn't been a water guzzler.

those who don't drink water (as I never did) roll their eyes and thing 'fuck would you shutup on the water thing' but ... it is the MOST important thing for every single body/wellness issue you can think of. i bought a water cooler and get 60 to 100 litres of water delivered per month. can't get enough ;-)

[Forest]

I am drinking 4-8 liters per day so far

day 3

waiting for the end of the weeek to weigh myself

wish i could bounce like that all day

LOL

[kath]

Wow - great info here! CJ - thank you for posting your story. Sounds interesting....I find that the glutens are often a real problem for me. I thought I had an allergic reaction at one point, but really think it's just not healthy for me.

I'd heard about those blood type nutrition info programs before - and I've always heard positive results from those who truly follow them. That's very encouraging.

FOREST - congrats on the water dude! That's great! Maybe I should up my bet from 15 pounds in 30 days to 20+! If you keep this up you could be a true success story and we could see you on Oprah in no time!

WTG!!!!!!!!

[Forest]

kath

day 3 and I havent weighed myself BUT

i feel like I have a TON of energy.

im in WAY too good of a mood and actually feel more alert then ever

Glugggg Glugggg Gluggggg (just pretending)
LOL