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Originally posted by Far-L@Jan 31 2005, 02:17 PM
I have some vague recollection of pissing off someone and being discouraged from posting here for some reason.
OH YEAh!
That was R_N who screamed at me about posting on here and told me to never again!
Anyone looking to sue Shawn, Ross, or Scott? Would you like to have an impromptu webmaster get together and discuss what they've been doing? Want to see the nice cars and toys they've bought with YOUR money? Go to
11301 Lakeside ave NE
seattle WA 98125
You can serve these fucks at this address as they all live there. Nice house.
Originally posted by Ruin@Jan 31 2005, 03:17 PM Anyone looking to sue Shawn, Ross, or Scott? Would you like to have an impromptu webmaster get together and discuss what they've been doing? Want to see the nice cars and toys they've bought with YOUR money? Go to
11301 Lakeside ave NE
seattle WA 98125
You can serve these fucks at this address as they all live there. Nice house.
Yeah it is nice. Kurt Cobain used to rent it, he actually still get mail there, or used to at least.
Word of caution: Scott Perkins is a bitch made prick who is scared of his shadow. This is a bad thing as Scott carries pistols on him.
Hey Scott, what's up Jesse James? You write checks your body can't cash? Gotta stay strapped you twirpy thug? Ha! You're still a bitch ass victim. What happens when you're in the pen? Better start paying more attention in your Tai Bo classes, maybe take some fencing classes...with a toothbrush.
Originally posted by Ruin@Jan 31 2005, 12:01 PM "He stole about 400,000 hits a day from us and our clients which equates to alot fo money in lost revenue and it caused secondary problems as well, we will never repcoup from him what he fucked us for but again we will have the pleasure of a judgement and the bbest reward from that case is when we hand the evidence over to FBI and he winds up in jail for rest of his life.
If you guys new how much sextracker had stolen from you, im sure most of the adult internet companies would be filing suit against him also." -Meat on ST and Shawn Boday
You don't know the half of it.
I seriously doubt that they were "stealing" 400,000 hits from you/yours per day. What Shawn and his crew are doing is much, much worse. They are taking the few hits that DO convert by means of inserting their own affiliate id's as well as redirecting join pages to their own MoneyTree program. This practice is detrimental to the entire industry. Affiliate programs (some are/were actually moneytree clients) are damaged when conversions drop and webmasters move to another program. Webmasters suffer damages in more direct ways, their joins are stolen from them.
We woke up one morning to a 30% drop in traffic and revenue.. at the time we were handling all of a MAJOR players non US traffic. millions of hits per day. They basically redirected all hits that were meant for our domain.. to the moneytree dialer.
I bought a new pc.. infected it with thier shit and videod the evidence.. we even flew our Lawyer over the Atlantic to England to help out.
Everyone says that there was no way that they could make a 30% dent in revenue.. but most of our revenue came from UK traffic.. and they had been installing spyware on UK surfers for years.. I would imagine they have infected a huge amount of UK pcs..
Sounds realistic to me. Especially in light of some information I've been provided by former FCI (not Avenue Media) employees that worked on this project. They were distributing via illegal methods (cracks), nevermind uploads to the dialers.
Make big money on your Domains! Why wait 40 days to get paid with the other guys? Parked.com pays the most for your traffic, and cuts checks twice a month!
Originally posted by Lord Aga@Feb 1 2005, 09:45 AM We woke up one morning to a 30% drop in traffic and revenue.. at the time we were handling all of a MAJOR players non US traffic. millions of hits per day. They basically redirected all hits that were meant for our domain.. to the moneytree dialer.
I bought a new pc.. infected it with thier shit and videod the evidence.. we even flew our Lawyer over the Atlantic to England to help out.
Everyone says that there was no way that they could make a 30% dent in revenue.. but most of our revenue came from UK traffic.. and they had been installing spyware on UK surfers for years.. I would imagine they have infected a huge amount of UK pcs..
30% overnight!... they must be very confident about not being held responsible personally.. :\ good luck Aga
I'll just give a brief wave and intro to keep the thread clean
I started in adult in 97
I've been to alot of conventions over the years
I know many of your posters here and many have met me .. those I don't know, I know OF. lol
I ignore the 'high postcount for sig leasing' option as you can tell *grin*
Now i'm into banking
back to the thread, I've known for over a year that the counter was full of spyware/adware .. I'm all for taking them down the hard road
Originally posted by vicki@Feb 1 2005, 10:07 AM I'll just give a brief wave and intro to keep the thread clean
I started in adult in 97
I've been to alot of conventions over the years
I know many of your posters here and many have met me .. those I don't know, I know OF. lol
I ignore the 'high postcount for sig leasing' option as you can tell *grin*
Now i'm into banking
back to the thread, I've known for over a year that the counter was full of spyware/adware .. I'm all for taking them down the hard road
A webmaster just contacted me to ask that I check a URL....
He said his ARS links where re-directing to moneytree... so he called ARS and was told that he had a trojan on his pc and it wasnt their fault.
I checked his link and got same thing... but when I clicked to the same site with a different affiliate code in URL... I get the correct ARS join page with correct affiliate link.
Does this sound right to all you ex Sextracker/AM people?
anyway.. if you want to see what happens, if you are infected by trying these 2 links