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Old 05-20-2008   #16
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Default Re: Government scores victory against woman who can't leave her house

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Actually, you are correct. First off, I don't see any (needed) militias, which sort of negates the whole deal. Second, the framing fathers didn't consider for a second the idea of some nutjob wandering around with an AK and a couple of large clips being able to take out a small town in minutes. When they wrote that stuff, it is was "put in the bullet, add in the powder, plan your action, cock the lever and fire, repeat if you don't get killed in the next 10 minutes or so". Weapons have a place in modern defence, but they don't have a place next to the schoolyard fence. There is no justification (besides the very tired "because the bad guys have them") that can say why a person living in the US needs a gun. If they were not produced in insane numbers (in the millions each year) the bad guys wouldn't have them because they wouldn't be able to find them.

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You don't have a clue....
First of all, "right to bear arms," has nothing to do with the "well regulated militia" part.
You anti-gun types want to make the argument that guns are for people formed militias, and since we have a military, why would you need it?

Think about when the right was "writ."
They were DEFENDING against the government's "militia." Understanding that a military is necessary to the free state, there will always be some kind of govt. run military. But when the existing Government becomes oppressive, it is the right of the people to overthrow that government. (see the other important documents stating this, written around the same era.)

THAT is why the people should ALWAYS be entitled to keep and bear arms. To ENSURE their freedoms, for all times.

And yes, there are plenty of justifications for it, but here's the thing: I don't NEED a justification, and more importantly, I don't need to justify it to you, or anyone else.

I've managed to keep and bear arms, with a license to carry, for the past 22 years without having to kill anyone, let alone children. And next to a schoolyard, or in the middle of a bar, It's just as safe for me to be carrying a weapon. But try breaking into my "castle," or "harming my person," and you'll find out real quick why I carry it. The "bad guys have them," is a REAL good reason why "the good guys" should be able have them, but that's a reactive statement, not a proactive statement.

But here's the best part.....you can have it your way, and I can have it my way. You don't need to carry, and I can. And we both get what we want. I don't care that you don't carry, so why do you care that I do?

And "if they wouldn't be produced" is a childish statement. They are, and they will always be. Even if you could magically get rid of all the guns.....then what? Would knives be next?

It's an age old axiom; Guns don't kill people....people kill people.
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