Global warming is it real or junk science?

TheEnforcer · 12-01-2005

When you see articles like these.........

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/st...html?gusrc=rss

Alarm over dramatic weakening of Gulf Stream

· Slowing of current by a third in 12 years could bring more extreme weather
· Temperatures in Britain likely to drop by one degree in next decade

Ian Sample, science correspondent
Thursday December 1, 2005
The Guardian

The powerful ocean current that bathes Britain and northern Europe in warm waters from the tropics has weakened dramatically in recent years, a consequence of global warming that could trigger more severe winters and cooler summers across the region, scientists warn today.
Researchers on a scientific expedition in the Atlantic Ocean measured the strength of the current between Africa and the east coast of America and found that the circulation has slowed by 30% since a previous expedition 12 years ago.

The current, which drives the Gulf Stream, delivers the equivalent of 1m power stations-worth of energy to northern Europe, propping up temperatures by 10C in some regions. The researchers found that the circulation has weakened by 6m tonnes of water a second. Previous expeditions to check the current flow in 1957, 1981 and 1992 found only minor changes in its strength, although a slowing was picked up in a further expedition in 1998. The decline prompted the scientists to set up a £4.8m network of moored instruments in the Atlantic to monitor changes in the current continuously.

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or do you think it's all junk science and it's just a matter of cycles within the earth???

Dravyk · 12-01-2005

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Originally Posted by TheEnforcer

or do you think it's all junk science and it's just a matter of cycles within the earth???

First: What is "junk science" exactly?

Second: Why either/or? Both is also a very real possibility.

TheEnforcer · 12-01-2005

1st- Junk science is science that basically looks for the result it desires regardless of facts.

2nd- because most people look at it as an either/or proposition. Also, if it is nohting more thana normal cycle there really isn't much you can do about it anyways.

Anthony · 12-01-2005

Great book out called "State of Fear", that deals with Global Warming.

DrGuile · 12-01-2005

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Great book out called "State of Fear", that deals with Global Warming.

You mean the Crichton book? Same guy who wrote Jurassic Park?

jbird · 12-01-2005

This is not the first time....year 2000 is the demarc point....6500 years from now we should be wiped out, all the Ice caps will melt and start the cooling process all over again. It will rain till everything is ice. Then after about 13,000 years the ice will start to melt, and after 19,500 The greek and jewish survivors will fight to say they maintained our Data Base so we know how to start all over again.

Anthony · 12-01-2005

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Originally Posted by DrGuile

You mean the Crichton book? Same guy who wrote Jurassic Park?

Excellent book with references. You should read it.

Trev · 12-01-2005

Where's the "I don't give a fuck" option?

Dravyk · 12-01-2005

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Where's the "I don't give a fuck" option?

It's right next to the "When I can walk across the ice to France" option.

Trev · 12-01-2005

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Originally Posted by Dravyk

It's right next to the "When I can walk across the ice to France" option.

That may one day become an option but I'm sure the rest of the World will have fucked the French by then... so a walk over to France might be nice

Trev · 12-01-2005

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Originally Posted by Trev

That may one day become an option but I'm sure the rest of the World will have fucked the French by then... so a walk over to France might be nice

I can't believe what I'm saying... the Germans have walked over France twice and regretted it both time.

Dravyk · 12-01-2005

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Originally Posted by Trev

That may one day become an option but I'm sure the rest of the World will have fucked the French by then... so a walk over to France might be nice

Don't you just hate it when you get some "French" on the bottom of your shoe, and can't get it off?

Trev · 12-01-2005

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Originally Posted by Dravyk

Don't you just hate it when you get some "French" on the bottom of your shoe, and can't get it off?

It sticks worse than gum and smells worse than you... well almost

TheEnforcer · 12-01-2005

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Great book out called "State of Fear", that deals with Global Warming.

I'll look it up. Is it a non-fiction book or something in fiction that tries to blend real life stuff in it?

The guy is definately a talented writer.

He also wrote The Hot Zone if memory serves me correctly and super viruses and the like scare me more than a terrorists does any day of the week.

TheEnforcer · 12-01-2005

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Originally Posted by Trev

I can't believe what I'm saying... the Germans have walked over France twice and regretted it both time.

ROFLMFAO!!!

That was a good one.. points!!

gold4dinar · 12-02-2005

http://www.junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/Kyoto_Count_Up.htm

Since 02/16/2005, the Kyoto Protocol has cost about US$ 118,874,796,727

and reduced the temperature in 2050 roughly by 0.001232776 °C .

Every day, we buy -0.000005 Celsius degrees for one half of the LHC collider. JunkScience.

Two proofs of global warming

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...path=News/News

Grump · 12-02-2005

I support Global Warming 100%!! Anything that will bring an end to our tourist season can't be a bad thing. Tourists Stay Home!!!

Accordingly, my investment portfolio is aligned and targeted to this prospect. It is currently long on Bikinis, thongs and Sun Tan Lotion and short parkas, boots and common sense.

grimm · 12-02-2005

its fucking december 2nd and 20 degrees. should be about 50. I think there may be something to it. winter STARTS the 21st

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TheEnforcer Scored VIP to Anton's Piss Tank Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 8,781	Global warming is it real or junk science? When you see articles like these......... http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/st...html?gusrc=rss Alarm over dramatic weakening of Gulf Stream · Slowing of current by a third in 12 years could bring more extreme weather · Temperatures in Britain likely to drop by one degree in next decade Ian Sample, science correspondent Thursday December 1, 2005 The Guardian The powerful ocean current that bathes Britain and northern Europe in warm waters from the tropics has weakened dramatically in recent years, a consequence of global warming that could trigger more severe winters and cooler summers across the region, scientists warn today. Researchers on a scientific expedition in the Atlantic Ocean measured the strength of the current between Africa and the east coast of America and found that the circulation has slowed by 30% since a previous expedition 12 years ago. The current, which drives the Gulf Stream, delivers the equivalent of 1m power stations-worth of energy to northern Europe, propping up temperatures by 10C in some regions. The researchers found that the circulation has weakened by 6m tonnes of water a second. Previous expeditions to check the current flow in 1957, 1981 and 1992 found only minor changes in its strength, although a slowing was picked up in a further expedition in 1998. The decline prompted the scientists to set up a £4.8m network of moored instruments in the Atlantic to monitor changes in the current continuously. ==================================== or do you think it's all junk science and it's just a matter of cycles within the earth???

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TheEnforcer Scored VIP to Anton's Piss Tank Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 8,781	Re: Global warming is it real or junk science? 1st- Junk science is science that basically looks for the result it desires regardless of facts. 2nd- because most people look at it as an either/or proposition. Also, if it is nohting more thana normal cycle there really isn't much you can do about it anyways.

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12-02-2005	#16
gold4dinar Members Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 51	Re: Global warming is it real or junk science? http://www.junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/Kyoto_Count_Up.htm Since 02/16/2005, the Kyoto Protocol has cost about US$ 118,874,796,727 and reduced the temperature in 2050 roughly by 0.001232776 °C . Every day, we buy -0.000005 Celsius degrees for one half of the LHC collider. JunkScience. Two proofs of global warming http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...path=News/News

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Grump Buys wine at Publix! Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 170	Re: Global warming is it real or junk science? I support Global Warming 100%!! Anything that will bring an end to our tourist season can't be a bad thing. Tourists Stay Home!!! Accordingly, my investment portfolio is aligned and targeted to this prospect. It is currently long on Bikinis, thongs and Sun Tan Lotion and short parkas, boots and common sense.

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grimm Cramming 3 people in a Room to Attend Show Stop Lurking and start posting! Register now! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 5,306	Re: Global warming is it real or junk science? its fucking december 2nd and 20 degrees. should be about 50. I think there may be something to it. winter STARTS the 21st __________________ Think horses, not zebras.