I'm Biting the BULLET!!!

Sabby · 11-11-2005

Okay.... I have decided I am gonna take on the MILF market with my new site. (There is very little competition in solo MILF sites and I think men looking for this niche are more forgiving of a few body flaws and women with intellegence greater than them, LOL).

Although I have been fighting this label for years, I am hitting the 35 mark in March... and I am starting to really feel it mentally... although I'll fight to my death to find the fountain of youth and keep looking young.

Any advice for this other than just be myself? LOL.

What do guys really like in a MILF? What sells?

Do I look MILFY enough?

Sabby

MorganGrayson · 11-11-2005

Men who like MILFs do indeed appreciate intelligence more. The not only are more forgiving of what you referred to as "bodily flaws," they expect them. These guys aren't looking for the rail thin, perfect body 20-somethings.

I've seen a lot of content sold as "MILF" that were of perfect bodied, gorgeous faced 30-somethings, so in that context, I can say "yes, you do look MILF" enough. (You won't make "mature," though. Not even remotely.) I think there is an intelligence in the faces of the MILF content I've seen that is associated with "slightly older women."

I'd say you have to be very, very careful with the *wording* on your site. Any use of the word "mature" - which you have to use to feed the SE - should be coupled with something like "intelligence" or "attitude."

I think you can get both markets: what I'm going to call the "regular" (for lack of a better term I can think of at the moment) and the "MILF" if the site is worded properly.

Nickatilynx · 11-11-2005

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Originally Posted by MorganGrayson

Men who like MILFs do indeed appreciate intelligence more. The not only are more forgiving of what you referred to as "bodily flaws," they expect them. These guys aren't looking for the rail thin, perfect body 20-somethings.

I've seen a lot of content sold as "MILF" that were of perfect bodied, gorgeous faced 30-somethings, so in that context, I can say "yes, you do look MILF" enough. (You won't make "mature," though. Not even remotely.) I think there is an intelligence in the faces of the MILF content I've seen that is associated with "slightly older women."

I'd say you have to be very, very careful with the *wording* on your site. Any use of the word "mature" - which you have to use to feed the SE - should be coupled with something like "intelligence" or "attitude."

I think you can get both markets: what I'm going to call the "regular" (for lack of a better term I can think of at the moment) and the "MILF" if the site is worded properly.

Yeah , "attitude" is a BIG term in the SEs ;-)))

MorganGrayson · 11-11-2005

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Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

Yeah , "attitude" is a BIG term in the SEs ;-)))

"Attitude" wasn't for the SEs and you know it, smart ass.

Timon · 11-11-2005

You'll need to have kids otherwise you'll only be BILF

Sabby · 11-11-2005

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Originally Posted by Timon

You'll need to have kids otherwise you'll only be BILF

I've had 3... All BOYS... 14, 12, 10.

What's a BILF? LOL.

Sabby

Timon · 11-11-2005

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Originally Posted by Sabby

I've had 3... All BOYS... 14, 12, 10.

Really?

You still look BILF to me!

Sabby · 11-11-2005

Hey I used to get alot of sales for Jill Kelly on my old bestXXXmatures toplist I used to have. And that was a couple years ago. She is 1 month older than me and I've been told I look like her, LOL.

And my friend Lizz... can you believe this woman is over 40???!!!

http://sexymisslizz.com/

Maybe I need to create a new niche... For women who refuse to look old but are.

Sabby

MorganGrayson · 11-11-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabby

Hey I used to get alot of sales for Jill Kelly on my old bestXXXmatures toplist I used to have. And that was a couple years ago. She is 1 month older than me and I've been told I look like her, LOL.

And my friend Lizz... can you believe this woman is over 40???!!!

http://sexymisslizz.com/

Maybe I need to create a new niche... For women who refuse to look old but are.

Sabby

That woman is *over* 40????

I'm going to go sit in the bottom of my closet and keen quietly to myself for a while....

Dravyk · 11-11-2005

Well, I think -- and there's lot of opinions which may disagree with this -- that MILF can mean anything from 22 to 45.

Now even though this pretty much means the same thing ... Sabby, how about the very closely associated niche of "Horny Housewife"? You definitely fit in there.

justb · 11-11-2005

not sure where your body flaws could be.......

Sabby · 11-11-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorganGrayson

That woman is *over* 40????

I'm going to go sit in the bottom of my closet and keen quietly to myself for a while....

42 years old and 5 kids...

Sabby

Sabby · 11-11-2005

Horny Housewife??

I suppose I could play that part but...

I dont cook
I dont clean
I dont do laundry

I am very good in bed though

Sabby

MorganGrayson · 11-11-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabby

42 years old and 5 kids...

Sabby

Evil Chris · 11-11-2005

My advice would be to cater to the boomers.
They're indoors more now than they ever have been, and most of them are behind a monitor in the evenings.

Oh and they have money. A lot of it.

Nickatilynx · 11-11-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabby

Horny Housewife??

I suppose I could play that part but...

I dont cook
I dont clean
I dont do laundry

I am very good in bed though

Sabby

I'm not surprised. It'd be like taking a Ferarri 4X4ing

;-)))

Osiris · 11-11-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabby

Do I look MILFY enough?

NO!

Vick · 11-11-2005

Sabby
You're not a MILF
even though you have children

end of discussion

Dravyk · 11-11-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabby

Horny Housewife??

I suppose I could play that part but...

I dont cook
I dont clean
I dont do laundry

I am very good in bed though

Well let's see ....

A horny housewife begins to clean, but never does, because the pizza guy comes to the door ...

A horny housewife starts to do laundry, but her son's good looking friend is for some reason in the basement, and ...

A horny housewife starts to cook dinner, but never gets there ... as she discoverers different uses for veggies and icing ...

Yeah, I'd say it could work.

Sabby · 11-11-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

I'm not surprised. It'd be like taking a Ferarri 4X4ing

;-)))

Hahaha I LOVE you Nick!!!

And I'm going to search for you in my next life... I hope you're RICH!!!

Sabby

Sabby · 11-11-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vick

Sabby
You're not a MILF
even though you have children

end of discussion

I'm thinking I'm on treading the "low" end of the Babe Niche now... and perhaps I could be higher up on the MILF Niche.

What about MILF Babes???

Sabby

Trev · 11-11-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dravyk

Well let's see ....

A horny housewife begins to clean, but never does, because the pizza guy comes to the door ...

A horny housewife starts to do laundry, but her son's good looking friend is for some reason in the basement, and ...

A horny housewife starts to cook dinner, but never gets there ... as she discoverers different uses for veggies and icing ...

Yeah, I'd say it could work.

I need to buy you some decent porn... the stuff you're watching is crap

sudden · 11-11-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabby

Horny Housewife??

I suppose I could play that part but...

I dont cook
I dont clean
I dont do laundry

I am very good in bed though

Sabby

Thats fine, the maid can do the rest

)

Sabby · 11-11-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vick

Sabby
You're not a MILF
even though you have children

end of discussion

Or are you saying I am not a mother you would like to fuck??

Was that a compliment or no?

Sabby

Dravyk · 11-11-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabby

Or are you saying I am not a mother you would like to fuck??

Was that a compliment or no?

If I may put words in Vick's mouth ...

I'm guessing he's saying you're not quite the Ozzie Harriet / Marion Cunningham "mom" type.

Which is a compliment.

... But that would be my guess.

Anthony · 11-11-2005

You are a MILF.

Osiris · 11-11-2005

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Originally Posted by Anthony

You are a MILF.

She's definitely a MILF, but she's not the MILF looking type I see on a lot of MILF sites.

Trev · 11-11-2005

I'd crawl 20 miles over broken glass just to sniff your... erm... you're a babe milf

pushpills · 11-11-2005

i'd fuck you for sure! but as far as milfs go i think you're a little too glamorous looking. most moms don't look like you by any means.

MorganGrayson · 11-11-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabby

Or are you saying I am not a mother you would like to fuck??

Was that a compliment or no?

Sabby

Vick started another thead. Worded much better. I stopped being the relentlessly supportive cheerleader that is unfortunately genetically programmed into me, too.

Sabby, you're someone EVERYBODY here would like to fuck. (I would need a manual, but I doubt seriously I'd kick you out of bed. Hell, I'd take a shot at it just to hear you talk.)

*THAT* body has had three kids????

Life fucking sucks. I had my oldest at 17 and STILL went to shit.

domtheboy · 11-11-2005

1 question - will you only be biting the bullet, or other things too

?

Timon · 11-11-2005

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Originally Posted by pushpills

i'd fuck you for sure!

No you wouldn't, she'd never do it with a snotnose like you

selena · 11-14-2005

I don't do a ton of promotion of her, but when I do, I promo Brandi Love as a milf, and it works just fine. She's in the same age range as you.

http://www.brandilove.com/

Dravyk · 11-14-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by selena

I don't do a ton of promotion of her, but when I do, I promo Brandi Love as a milf, and it works just fine. She's in the same age range as you.

http://www.brandilove.com/

Not a single thing against Brandi. She is indeed a lovely lady. And yes, definitely a MILF.

That said though, Sabby? Can you see the difference?

Basically you look too young and too glamorous to fit the "classic" MILF mold.

Sabby · 11-14-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dravyk

Not a single thing against Brandi. She is indeed a lovely lady. And yes, definitely a MILF.

That said though, Sabby? Can you see the difference?

Basically you look too young and too glamorous to fit the "classic" MILF mold.

I dont think she looks older than me.

I think you guys are just making fun of me now!! LOL.

Sabby

LadyMischief · 11-14-2005

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Sin · 11-14-2005

I don't think they're making fun of you, I don't think you look anywhere near those women's respective ages.

If you feel it is where you need to go though to be more successful, then good luck with it & I'm sure you'll do great

LadyMischief · 11-14-2005

The MILF/Mature market actually starts at about age 25.. or so the clients we have that we shoot mature content for seem to believe. I personally don't agree with that much, but honestly Sabby you will RULE that market.

Dravyk · 11-14-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabby

I dont think she looks older than me.

I think you guys are just making fun of me now!!

Lisa doesn't know she's cute, and you think you look the same age as Brandi ...

Women!!!

11-11-2005	#1
Sabby GOLD DIGGER Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,421	I'm Biting the BULLET!!! Okay.... I have decided I am gonna take on the MILF market with my new site. (There is very little competition in solo MILF sites and I think men looking for this niche are more forgiving of a few body flaws and women with intellegence greater than them, LOL). Although I have been fighting this label for years, I am hitting the 35 mark in March... and I am starting to really feel it mentally... although I'll fight to my death to find the fountain of youth and keep looking young. Any advice for this other than just be myself? LOL. What do guys really like in a MILF? What sells? Do I look MILFY enough? Sabby

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MorganGrayson None $100 for every ImLive sign-up Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,321	Re: I'm Biting the BULLET!!! Men who like MILFs do indeed appreciate intelligence more. The not only are more forgiving of what you referred to as "bodily flaws," they expect them. These guys aren't looking for the rail thin, perfect body 20-somethings. I've seen a lot of content sold as "MILF" that were of perfect bodied, gorgeous faced 30-somethings, so in that context, I can say "yes, you do look MILF" enough. (You won't make "mature," though. Not even remotely.) I think there is an intelligence in the faces of the MILF content I've seen that is associated with "slightly older women." I'd say you have to be very, very careful with the wording on your site. Any use of the word "mature" - which you have to use to feed the SE - should be coupled with something like "intelligence" or "attitude." I think you can get both markets: what I'm going to call the "regular" (for lack of a better term I can think of at the moment) and the "MILF" if the site is worded properly.

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Sabby GOLD DIGGER Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,421	Re: I'm Biting the BULLET!!! Hey I used to get alot of sales for Jill Kelly on my old bestXXXmatures toplist I used to have. And that was a couple years ago. She is 1 month older than me and I've been told I look like her, LOL. And my friend Lizz... can you believe this woman is over 40???!!! http://sexymisslizz.com/ Maybe I need to create a new niche... For women who refuse to look old but are. Sabby

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