hey YOU fucking hypocrite republicans, still glad you voted for Bush?

[JoesHO]

I mean I watch the weasle cocksucker on a news conference say he has to CUT unnecassary spending ( like schools and teachers, and roads and you know little petty things like those , proper body armour or benifites for our troops , etc...) so that he can come up with enough money to " Help re build New orleans" and to " keep fighting the war on terror"

but then him and his gongess posses decide to allocate funds and resources to fight US???? LEGAL PORN whhat the fuck is going on here ?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...901570_pf.html

[Carrie]

Well, let's see.
The alternative was first Gore, and then Kerry.
Still glad I voted for him instead of them?
Yup. No question.

[PornoDoggy]

Jezuz told him to.

You can't argue with Jezuz.

[JoesHO]

Originally Posted by Carrie

Well, let's see.
The alternative was first Gore, and then Kerry.
Still glad I voted for him instead of them?
Yup. No question.

well then you need to be the first they prosecute I would say .

[Carrie]

I'm not involved in pornography that "includes bestiality, urination, defecation, as well as sadistic and masochistic behavior." (From the article you and Sare posted.)
Are you?

We could have Gore with his universal identification card and cross-referenced medical, police, school, etc databases so the gov't could track every movement we made.
We could have Kerry with higher taxes and... and... well Kerry didn't stand for much else except for patting himself on the back for getting band-aids in Vietnam.

Or we could have Bush with an agenda to lower taxes, let parents have the choice of where to send their kids to school, and make the schools actually output students who can read and do basic math.

Yep, I'd still choose Bush.

The Attorney General wants to prosecute pornography - let him have at it. I fully support him going after things like bestiality. The other stuff, between "consenting adults"? I wish him luck getting it past any First Amendment defense attorney.

[Inabon]

Originally Posted by Carrie

I'm not involved in pornography that "includes bestiality, urination, defecation, as well as sadistic and masochistic behavior." (From the article you and Sare posted.)
Are you?

We could have Gore with his universal identification card and cross-referenced medical, police, school, etc databases so the gov't could track every movement we made.
We could have Kerry with higher taxes and... and... well Kerry didn't stand for much else except for patting himself on the back for getting band-aids in Vietnam.

Or we could have Bush with an agenda to lower taxes, let parents have the choice of where to send their kids to school, and make the schools actually output students who can read and do basic math.

Yep, I'd still choose Bush.

The Attorney General wants to prosecute pornography - let him have at it. I fully support him going after things like bestiality. The other stuff, between "consenting adults"? I wish him luck getting it past any First Amendment defense attorney.

ohh dude i really can´t believe you went there...

what is wrong with cross indexing databases what do you have to hide? why do you have to hide? and what the fuck makes you think you are not being tracked already.

crossreferencing dbases shortens your time when you have to do any legal shit like get your tag.

crossreferencing would have put a stop on fucking arabs taking comercial flight lessons in USA

kerry raise tax yes dumb ass raise tax on fucking rich people. check out what clinton said how USA is borrowing money from yes the same people that raised your gas price to cover the top 1% that make millions and are not taxed.


but what am i saying you still believe in this fucker.

Originally Posted by Carrie

I'm not involved in pornography that "includes bestiality, urination, defecation, as well as sadistic and masochistic behavior." (From the article you and Sare posted.)
Are you?

We could have Gore with his universal identification card and cross-referenced medical, police, school, etc databases so the gov't could track every movement we made.
We could have Kerry with higher taxes and... and... well Kerry didn't stand for much else except for patting himself on the back for getting band-aids in Vietnam.

Or we could have Bush with an agenda to lower taxes, let parents have the choice of where to send their kids to school, and make the schools actually output students who can read and do basic math.

Yep, I'd still choose Bush.

The Attorney General wants to prosecute pornography - let him have at it. I fully support him going after things like bestiality. The other stuff, between "consenting adults"? I wish him luck getting it past any First Amendment defense attorney.

Read the article again, and you will see that, what you quoted is NOT what they are going after but was a reference as to what is considered to be the worst at this time.

in fact they are going after any adulkt related material if you bother to read the entire article.

now as far as taxes, and id cards and all that other pety shit,

you are missing the most important of all,

RECORD DEFICTES ( funded by China, Korea, japan, saudi arabia, and britian)
only one of wich is 100% friendly to us btw.....

UNJUST WAR -- ( how are we doing in afghanistan btw? any news on osama, the dr. or mullah?) ( Iraq is mucher safer today and the people are very glad we liberated it correct?) ( do you think Iran will enjoy running iraq soon?) ( BTW when will our troops get the benifites they were promised? and the body armour and supplies they need?)

FAILURE TO RESPOND TO NATIONAL DISATER - ( ooopsie)

ILLEAGLE LEGISLATION FROM THE EXECUTIVE BRACNH -- can someone say 257 , ashcroft, gonzales, right wing christians, and porn?) 9 how about pirvacy, 4th amendment? ahh what the fuck maybe Bush can trample all ten of the first amendments before he is through ) oh yeah I forgot those crazy christians will still want number 2 in there in case they gots to go shoot some niggars huh ?


WAKE UP MAN, PRIORITY!!!!!!!!! it comes in the dictionary right after RESPONSABILITY

[JR]

I have about 10 minutes to answer any questions you have

[Trev]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

WAKE UP MAN, PRIORITY!!!!!!!!! it comes in the dictionary right after RESPONSABILITY

Only if you're reading the fucker backwards!

[PornoDoggy]

Uhhhh ... excuse me.

Isn't universal identification cards in the process of becoming law, passed with the endorsement of President Bush by the Republican Congress?

Arent' cross-referenced databases and information sharing between departments a part of the entire Homeland Security aparatus? Wasn't it the Bush Administration that brought back that known defender of the constitution, Admiral Poindexter, as a consultant to devise some Orwellian wet dream of a database?

George Bush beat John Kerry by playing one of the oldest cards in American politics - the nigger card. No, he did not attack black people - we have "progressed" beyond where you can get away with saying that too openly or to loudly. He found him some new niggers (them gayhomaseckshualfaggots), presented them as a danger to "the family", and engerized a base that had grown a little concerned that he was spending too much time on terrorism and not enough time on real issues, like "morality" and "pornography."

[Inabon]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Read the article again, and you will see that, what you quoted is NOT what they are going after but was a reference as to what is considered to be the worst at this time.

in fact they are going after any adulkt related material if you bother to read the entire article.

now as far as taxes, and id cards and all that other pety shit,

you are missing the most important of all,

RECORD DEFICTES ( funded by China, Korea, japan, saudi arabia, and britian)
only one of wich is 100% friendly to us btw.....

UNJUST WAR -- ( how are we doing in afghanistan btw? any news on osama, the dr. or mullah?) ( Iraq is mucher safer today and the people are very glad we liberated it correct?) ( do you think Iran will enjoy running iraq soon?) ( BTW when will our troops get the benifites they were promised? and the body armour and supplies they need?)

FAILURE TO RESPOND TO NATIONAL DISATER - ( ooopsie)

ILLEAGLE LEGISLATION FROM THE EXECUTIVE BRACNH -- can someone say 257 , ashcroft, gonzales, right wing christians, and porn?) 9 how about pirvacy, 4th amendment? ahh what the fuck maybe Bush can trample all ten of the first amendments before he is through ) oh yeah I forgot those crazy christians will still want number 2 in there in case they gots to go shoot some niggars huh ?


WAKE UP MAN, PRIORITY!!!!!!!!! it comes in the dictionary right after RESPONSABILITY

holy shit batman our guest rocks!!!!

[PornoDoggy]

Originally Posted by JR

I have about 10 minutes to answer any questions you have

Are you proud of the fact that you would need no makeup in order to play this great American on stage or in film?

[JoesHO]

btw i am the guest, not sure why it didnt say my name....

But by god I want credit for it LOL

[PornoDoggy]

I knew it was you, Joe ...

[Inabon]

fuck i did not look at the ip LOL nice move LOL

[JR]

When we were putting the board [of directors] together, somebody [Fred Malek] came to me and said, look there is a guy who would like to be on the board. He's kind of down on his luck a bit. Needs a job. Needs a board position. Needs some board positions. Could you put him on the board? Pay him a salary and he'll be a good board member and be a loyal vote for the management and so forth.

I said well we're not usually in that business. But okay, let me meet the guy. I met the guy. I said I don't think he adds that much value. We'll put him on the board because - you know - we'll do a favor for this guy; he's done a favor for us.

We put him on the board and [he] spent three years. Came to all the meetings. Told a lot of jokes. Not that many clean ones. And after a while I kind of said to him, after about three years - you know, I'm not sure this is really for you. Maybe you should do something else. Because I don't think you're adding that much value to the board. You don't know that much about the company.

He said, well I think I'm getting out of this business anyway. And I don't really like it that much. So I'm probably going to resign from the board.

And I said, thanks - didn't think I'd ever see him again. His name is George W. Bush. He became President of the United States. So you know if you said to me, name 25 million people who would maybe be President of the United States, he wouldn't have been in that category. So you never know. Anyway, I haven't been invited to the White House for any things.

-- David Rubenstein, The Carlyle Group

[Inabon]

Originally Posted by JR

When we were putting the board [of directors] together, somebody [Fred Malek] came to me and said, look there is a guy who would like to be on the board. He's kind of down on his luck a bit. Needs a job. Needs a board position. Needs some board positions. Could you put him on the board? Pay him a salary and he'll be a good board member and be a loyal vote for the management and so forth.

I said well we're not usually in that business. But okay, let me meet the guy. I met the guy. I said I don't think he adds that much value. We'll put him on the board because - you know - we'll do a favor for this guy; he's done a favor for us.

We put him on the board and [he] spent three years. Came to all the meetings. Told a lot of jokes. Not that many clean ones. And after a while I kind of said to him, after about three years - you know, I'm not sure this is really for you. Maybe you should do something else. Because I don't think you're adding that much value to the board. You don't know that much about the company.

He said, well I think I'm getting out of this business anyway. And I don't really like it that much. So I'm probably going to resign from the board.

And I said, thanks - didn't think I'd ever see him again. His name is George W. Bush. He became President of the United States. So you know if you said to me, name 25 million people who would maybe be President of the United States, he wouldn't have been in that category. So you never know. Anyway, I haven't been invited to the White House for any things.

-- David Rubenstein, The Carlyle Group

ok you lost me. are you saying GW is soo good that he was president or are you saying that the president is an incompentent i sit here for 3 years cause daddy helped me be here????

[Nickatilynx]

Originally Posted by Inabon

ok you lost me. are you saying GW is soo good that he was president or are you saying that the president is an incompentent i sit here for 3 years cause daddy helped me be here????

Wanna pay me to turn up for 3 years do fuck all take an enormous salary and tell dirty jokes..


hmmm hang on , nevermind

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by Trev

Only if you're reading the fucker backwards!

[Trev]

Originally Posted by Peaches

I was beginning to think that one was going to slip through the net without anyone noticing it.

[Inabon]

Originally Posted by Trev

I was beginning to think that one was going to slip through the net without anyone noticing it.

ahh fuck i wanted no one to notice but i guess she did.

[Trev]

Originally Posted by Inabon

ahh fuck i wanted no one to notice but i guess she did.

If I'd have known it was Joe, there would have been a reference to him being a dyslexic homo in there.

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by Inabon

ahh fuck i wanted no one to notice but i guess she did.

It was pretty darned funny - I have to reward a good zoom

[Inabon]

ok so sofar on this thread we have 1 anal retentive brit and a girl that noticed the anal retentive brit

FUCK and the thread was about GWB

[PornoDoggy]

Originally Posted by Peaches

It was pretty darned funny - I have to reward a good zoom

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

For some reason, when I read that post I got the theme song for that infernal kid's show "Zoom" stuck in my head!!!!

You have made my list, lady ...

...come on and zoom zoom zoom-a-zoom my friggin' ass!!!

[Trev]

Originally Posted by Inabon

ok so sofar on this thread we have 1 anal retentive brit and a girl that noticed the anal retentive brit

FUCK and the thread was about GWB

I'm not sure if it's just me, but I was just wondering to myself while checking out the main board and the threads there, when did the world stop revolving around the sun and start revolving around the US?

[Inabon]

LOL it doesnt revolve around USA man.... we just like to let them know it doesn´t

[Peaches]

Ooooh - someone called me a girl

PD, I loved that show, but "zoom" always reminds me of the drinking game Zoom Schwartz Pifigliano "You can't zoom a zoomer!"

[gold4dinar]

borowitzreport.com
EXPERTS CALL BUSH PRESIDENCY WORST DISASTER IN NATION’S HISTORY
Cost of Damage Estimated In The Zillions


Four and a half years after he was first sworn in as president, experts in the field of disaster assessment today called the presidency of George W. Bush the worst disaster in the history of the United States of America.

The sober assessment came from the University of Minnesota’s Enormous Disaster Institute, which studies and attempts to quantify colossal disasters, both natural and manmade.

Dr. Lorraine Cresser, who heads the Institute, said that the University of Minnesota experts decided to place the current administration at the top of the nation’s list of huge disasters after assessing the damage the White House has caused over the past four and a half years, both at home and abroad.

“After taking a good look at the wreckage the Bush presidency has created, we would estimate the cost of the damage at somewhere in the mid to high zillions,” Dr. Cresser said.

Hours after the University of Minnesota released its findings, House Speaker Dennis Hastert said that given the high price tag, rebuilding the Bush presidency “doesn’t make sense to me.”

Speaking to reporters on Capitol Hill, Rep. Hastert said that based on what he had seen of the Bush presidency lately, “It looks like a lot of it could be bulldozed.”

But hours later, the Speaker backtracked somewhat, telling reporters, “Like most Republicans in Congress, I have been drinking very heavily for the past several days.”

Elsewhere, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said today that his department would intensify the search for those missing since Hurricane Katrina hit, including Vice President Dick Cheney.

[ThrobX]

Originally Posted by Carrie

Well, let's see.
The alternative was first Gore, and then Kerry.
Still glad I voted for him instead of them?
Yup. No question.

[Dravyk]

Originally Posted by ThrobX

I thought we voted in a president to not-to-think for us?

[XxXotic]

doesnt matter who voted for who, Bush stole the 1st election and bought the second one. We were fucked even if he got 1% of the vote

[ThrobX]

Originally Posted by Dravyk

I thought we voted in a president to not-to-think for us?

We did. Therefore, we just need to keep our blinders on and let them take care of things for us. We trust in our Leader, for He is good.

[JR]

Originally Posted by Inabon

ok you lost me. are you saying GW is soo good that he was president or are you saying that the president is an incompentent i sit here for 3 years cause daddy helped me be here????

actually... thats funny. i wasn't saying anything at all. just a funny quote i found.

are you suggesting that mr and mr clinton did not recieve their fair share of favors as they were busying themselves with collapsing the savings and loan industry and creating a trail of dead bodies?

[Newton]

I adore 2dtv .. http://www.2dtv.co.uk/movie/arnie_and_bush.htm

[JoesHO]

sorry to wake you up JR but it was George senior that fucked up the Savings and loan industry .

oh and btw

three wrongs dont make a right

so no matter what George sr. or Bill did or didnt do

GW has put the USA on a fucking mass suicidal train wreck and drove us completely in to the friggin ground on all fronts, domestic, foreign, constitutional history..

financial, polorization I mean the list is endless

[JR]

Originally Posted by JoesHO1

sorry to wake you up JR but it was George senior that fucked up the Savings and loan industry .

oh and btw

three wrongs dont make a right

so no matter what George sr. or Bill did or didnt do

GW has put the USA on a fucking mass suicidal train wreck and drove us completely in to the friggin ground on all fronts, domestic, foreign, constitutional history..

financial, polorization I mean the list is endless

3 wrongs don't make a right? I was attempting to comment on your bias towards every issue. You have taken Dig420's place here. Or RawAlex. You are very liberal in your thinking and you are biased towards liberal ideas and you cannot accept that. Its not right or wrong, good or bad... it just is what it is. But at some point you might want to be honest with yourself about your perceptions and how your views might affect your perceptions of whats going on in the world.

You dont hate the fact that Bush might be a bad president. You hate the fact that Bush is a Republican, Congress is Republican, Senate is Republican etc.. Sorry... thats the deal. The people have spoken. If there was a Democratic president in office you would be both touting his/her greatness constantly while pointing out that Republicans are still trying to ruin the country. Thats not a balanced view of the world rooted in objectivity and understanding.... thats simply a consistent pattern of behavior.

Sorry to wake me up? What are you suggesting? that i am somehow ignorant of everything going on in the world? That you are more intelligent and enlightened in your views than i am?

Your condescension is rooted in your bias. For you to be right, 50% of the voters have to be wrong. For you to be right about everything with your polarized view of the world, you have to summarily reject the views of others.

It takes a lot of arrogance to say "50% of voters are absolutely wrong and i am 100% right" in my opinion.

And what about my views? Well.... when the choice was between Bush and Gore, I felt Bush was the better choice. I believed that based on the info at the time. When Kerry came along, i was really dissapointed as i had hoped that Democrats could offer up an electable candidate that could win. At the time, Bush was the better choice in my opinon.

Everyone tends to act as if we can have perfect politicians creating a perfect government. My point about my remarks about Clinton is that anyone can go on a tirade about Clinton, his sex scandals, rapes, white water, stock scandals, lying to congress, bombing kosovo without UN Permission and so on. I dont have a problem with Clinton. Thats what you will probably never see with your political tunnel vision. Clinton and Bush are two sides of the same coin. Republicans and Democrats are two sides of the same coin. To say one is more corrupt, more priveledged or more pure of character is absolute absurdity and ignorant in my opinion. Any person who wants the job is the worst person for the job.

[Mike AI]

Originally Posted by JR

3 wrongs don't make a right? I was attempting to comment on your bias towards every issue. You have taken Dig420's place here. Or RawAlex. You are very liberal in your thinking and you are biased towards liberal ideas and you cannot accept that. Its not right or wrong, good or bad... it just is what it is. But at some point you might want to be honest with yourself about your perceptions and how your views might affect your perceptions of whats going on in the world.

You dont hate the fact that Bush might be a bad president. You hate the fact that Bush is a Republican, Congress is Republican, Senate is Republican etc.. Sorry... thats the deal. The people have spoken. If there was a Democratic president in office you would be both touting his/her greatness constantly while pointing out that Republicans are still trying to ruin the country. Thats not a balanced view of the world rooted in objectivity and understanding.... thats simply a consistent pattern of behavior.

Sorry to wake me up? What are you suggesting? that i am somehow ignorant of everything going on in the world? That you are more intelligent and enlightened in your views than i am?

Your condescension is rooted in your bias. For you to be right, 50% of the voters have to be wrong. For you to be right about everything with your polarized view of the world, you have to summarily reject the views of others.

It takes a lot of arrogance to say "50% of voters are absolutely wrong and i am 100% right" in my opinion.

And what about my views? Well.... when the choice was between Bush and Gore, I felt Bush was the better choice. I believed that based on the info at the time. When Kerry came along, i was really dissapointed as i had hoped that Democrats could offer up an electable candidate that could win. At the time, Bush was the better choice in my opinon.

Everyone tends to act as if we can have perfect politicians creating a perfect government. My point about my remarks about Clinton is that anyone can go on a tirade about Clinton, his sex scandals, rapes, white water, stock scandals, lying to congress, bombing kosovo without UN Permission and so on. I dont have a problem with Clinton. Thats what you will probably never see with your political tunnel vision. Clinton and Bush are two sides of the same coin. Republicans and Democrats are two sides of the same coin. To say one is more corrupt, more priveledged or more pure of character is absolute absurdity and ignorant in my opinion. Any person who wants the job is the worst person for the job.

Why do a picture a confused look on the other side of the monitor?

I love you JR.

[JoesHO]

The difference is this ..

Republicans -- corrupt for the big business and privledged ( not earned but old time family money rooted in corruption from the beggining of the land grab.

democrats -- corrupt for euqality of the masses they act in accordance with the majority of people in mind ( I am not speaking of majority of 38% of the country that voted. I am talking about 100% of the body count in the country.

do i think both are corrupt, sure I do I am far from nieve

however I am talking about abuse of power , and that my friend is the issue with THIS presdident, at THIS time in histroy. and is it corruption for the masses? or corruption for the few to benifite????

[Dravyk]

Kennedy - Democrat - Pants down all the time, most notably with Marilyn.

Johnson - Democrat - Escalation of war

Nixon - Republican - Break ins, spying, famous tape recordings, conspiracy

Carter - Democrat - Failed helicopter rescue

Reagan - Republican - October surprise, Ollie North, contras, secret Iran dealings, James Watt trying to sell National Parks

Bush Sr - Republican - Noriega and his CIA involvement swept away, Savings and Loan scandal of his son swept away

Clinton - Democrat - Pants down all the time, most notably with Monica.

Bush Jr - Republican ...

Pretty much .... Republican crimes deal with national and international issues and billions of dollars ... Democratic crimes deal with sex.

[JR]

Originally Posted by JoesHO1

The difference is this ..

Republicans -- corrupt for the big business and privledged ( not earned but old time family money rooted in corruption from the beggining of the land grab.

democrats -- corrupt for euqality of the masses they act in accordance with the majority of people in mind ( I am not speaking of majority of 38% of the country that voted. I am talking about 100% of the body count in the country.

do i think both are corrupt, sure I do I am far from nieve

however I am talking about abuse of power , and that my friend is the issue with THIS presdident, at THIS time in histroy. and is it corruption for the masses? or corruption for the few to benifite????

thanks for making my point again.......... "i am right because... you are wrong because... the issue is black and white and you just don't get it because... its ok when we are corrupt because... its wrong when you are corrupt because....." blah blah.

tell us how many people were killed in relation to whitewater for the benefit of the masses please. i can't find those stats.

[Mike AI]

Originally Posted by JR

3 wrongs don't make a right? I was attempting to comment on your bias towards every issue. You have taken Dig420's place here. Or RawAlex. You are very liberal in your thinking and you are biased towards liberal ideas and you cannot accept that. Its not right or wrong, good or bad... it just is what it is. But at some point you might want to be honest with yourself about your perceptions and how your views might affect your perceptions of whats going on in the world.

You dont hate the fact that Bush might be a bad president. You hate the fact that Bush is a Republican, Congress is Republican, Senate is Republican etc.. Sorry... thats the deal. The people have spoken. If there was a Democratic president in office you would be both touting his/her greatness constantly while pointing out that Republicans are still trying to ruin the country. Thats not a balanced view of the world rooted in objectivity and understanding.... thats simply a consistent pattern of behavior.

Sorry to wake me up? What are you suggesting? that i am somehow ignorant of everything going on in the world? That you are more intelligent and enlightened in your views than i am?

Your condescension is rooted in your bias. For you to be right, 50% of the voters have to be wrong. For you to be right about everything with your polarized view of the world, you have to summarily reject the views of others.

It takes a lot of arrogance to say "50% of voters are absolutely wrong and i am 100% right" in my opinion.

And what about my views? Well.... when the choice was between Bush and Gore, I felt Bush was the better choice. I believed that based on the info at the time. When Kerry came along, i was really dissapointed as i had hoped that Democrats could offer up an electable candidate that could win. At the time, Bush was the better choice in my opinon.

Everyone tends to act as if we can have perfect politicians creating a perfect government. My point about my remarks about Clinton is that anyone can go on a tirade about Clinton, his sex scandals, rapes, white water, stock scandals, lying to congress, bombing kosovo without UN Permission and so on. I dont have a problem with Clinton. Thats what you will probably never see with your political tunnel vision. Clinton and Bush are two sides of the same coin. Republicans and Democrats are two sides of the same coin. To say one is more corrupt, more priveledged or more pure of character is absolute absurdity and ignorant in my opinion. Any person who wants the job is the worst person for the job.

Why do a picture a confused look on the other side of the monitor?

I love you JR.

[PornoDoggy]

Aw, now wait a minute here ... killed in relation to Whitewater?

How is it that Slick Willie gets caught at everything he's ever done - but he gets away with murder? The only thing the Special Prosecuter neglected in investigate was whether Clinton stole extra fucking food from the cafeteria when he was in second grade.

The best the people out to get him could come up with is lying about a fucking blowjob - and the Republicans who wanted it so bad didn't have the balls to follow through with it once the best friend they ever had in that investigation - Clinton himself - gave them all the ammunition they could have dreamed of.

Back away from the crack pipe, JR ...

[JR]

Originally Posted by PornoDoggy

Aw, now wait a minute here ... killed in relation to Whitewater?

How is it that Slick Willie gets caught at everything he's ever done - but he gets away with murder? The only thing the Special Prosecuter neglected in investigate was whether Clinton stole extra fucking food from the cafeteria when he was in second grade.

The best the people out to get him could come up with is lying about a fucking blowjob - and the Republicans who wanted it so bad didn't have the balls to follow through with it once the best friend they ever had in that investigation - Clinton himself - gave them all the ammunition they could have dreamed of.

Back away from the crack pipe, JR ...

What did "Slick Willie" get caught for besides lying under oath? What exact has "Dubya" been "caught" for when he represents all that is evil in the world? Using your own example, the score is still Slick Willy 1, Bush 0.

... and I dont put my crack pipe down for Liberals. My responsibility to conservatives and liberatarians everywhere is to hold this crack pipe firm to my lips, so you can point and shout (using my best Pacino drunken Scareface voice) "you need people like me. you need people like me so you can point your finger and say, there! thats the bad guy!"

Much easier than pondering the notion that your ideas may not be the only ideas or the only right ideas and that your answers are not always the right answers or the only right answers.

[PornoDoggy]

JR ... have you got your bot out again?

I'm not trying to do a compare and contrast on the "evilness" factors of Clinton v Bush. I suspect that both would more than exceed the requirements for The Big Blue Meanie society.

You are making allegations of murder against Clinton. I think that's patently absurd. I think is patenly absurd when anyone made those kind of allegations against the Bush family - and a quick Google search will uncover a list of alleged bodies just as long as those supposedly tallied on Clinton's account.

[JR]

Originally Posted by PornoDoggy

JR ... have you got your bot out again?

I'm not trying to do a compare and contrast on the "evilness" factors of Clinton v Bush. I suspect that both would more than exceed the requirements for The Big Blue Meanie society.

You are making allegations of murder against Clinton. I think that's patently absurd. I think is patenly absurd when anyone made those kind of allegations against the Bush family - and a quick Google search will uncover a list of alleged bodies just as long as those supposedly tallied on Clinton's account.

ok and uhm... yeah... that was my point. i can point out the dead bodies and say clinton had them killed. is that any more absurd than any other argument about who is right and who is wrong, who is better and who is worse and the newest, most idiotic argument i have heard in recent times "we are corrupt for good reasons, they are corrupt for bad reasons"?

Originally Posted by PornoDoggy

JR ... have you got your bot out again?

haha.. possibly. getting extremely tired of the "we're right, you're wrong" conversations that go on about politics. the hurricane and the BS that followed was just the last straw for me.

[PornoDoggy]

You never answered my question. Unless, of course, unregistered was you.

[JR]

Originally Posted by PornoDoggy

You never answered my question. Unless, of course, unregistered was you.

it was me. i am the one that usually types in all small letters

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Originally Posted by JR

3 wrongs don't make a right? I was attempting to comment on your bias towards every issue. You have taken Dig420's place here. Or RawAlex. You are very liberal in your thinking and you are biased towards liberal ideas and you cannot accept that. Its not right or wrong, good or bad... it just is what it is. But at some point you might want to be honest with yourself about your perceptions and how your views might affect your perceptions of whats going on in the world.

You dont hate the fact that Bush might be a bad president. You hate the fact that Bush is a Republican, Congress is Republican, Senate is Republican etc.. Sorry... thats the deal. The people have spoken. If there was a Democratic president in office you would be both touting his/her greatness constantly while pointing out that Republicans are still trying to ruin the country. Thats not a balanced view of the world rooted in objectivity and understanding.... thats simply a consistent pattern of behavior.

I'd say that I'm liberal, but to be blunt, whatever someone's political preferences are, isn't necessarily going to change how Bush is as a president. I don't hate the fact that he's a republican, because I'm unconvinced that he would behave differently if he were a democrat. Age old saying is that absolute power corrupts absolutely...unfortunately that would appear to be the case, probably largely *because* Bush is Republican, Congress is Republican, Senate is Republican, he is free to do whatever he pleases. I don't think the overall picture would be any prettier if all of the above were Democratic either... the methodologies would just be somewhat different, leading to probably the same result.

Originally Posted by JR

Your condescension is rooted in your bias. For you to be right, 50% of the voters have to be wrong. For you to be right about everything with your polarized view of the world, you have to summarily reject the views of others.

It takes a lot of arrogance to say "50% of voters are absolutely wrong and i am 100% right" in my opinion.

I know that's directed at someone else but I'm going to impose my thoughts & perspective on that statement here as well Given the rampant stupidity of humans these days, (again regardless of what their political opinion is) ...it wouldn't be hard to find 50+% of votes to be "wrong" ...if "wrong" is even an applicable word here. I don't think opinion really comes into play either.... Bush does what he does, and has made it very clear that public opinion really doesn't matter to him in the slightest. As much as I personally disagree with ...probably 90% of this actions, he was questioned a while ago up in Canada & asked about his disregard for what the American public wanted... he made a statement to the effect of that he would do what he had to do what he felt was right & couldn't rely upon public opinion to base his decisions upon because opinions were so varied. It was the one & only thing I've ever heard quoted of the man, that I've had to respect... he had a point there & as an individual that will personally always do what I personally feel is right, I can understand it on that level. Unfortunately my opinion also does feel that a federal government does have a responsibility for their public & when opinions are voiced loudly enough (ie in a large majority) ...some attention should be paid.

Originally Posted by JR

Everyone tends to act as if we can have perfect politicians creating a perfect government. My point about my remarks about Clinton is that anyone can go on a tirade about Clinton, his sex scandals, rapes, white water, stock scandals, lying to congress, bombing kosovo without UN Permission and so on. I dont have a problem with Clinton. Thats what you will probably never see with your political tunnel vision. Clinton and Bush are two sides of the same coin. Republicans and Democrats are two sides of the same coin. To say one is more corrupt, more priveledged or more pure of character is absolute absurdity and ignorant in my opinion. Any person who wants the job is the worst person for the job.

I agree with the part in bold, most wholeheartedly.

Originally Posted by JoesHO1

GW has put the USA on a fucking mass suicidal train wreck and drove us completely in to the friggin ground on all fronts, domestic, foreign, constitutional history..

financial, polorization I mean the list is endless

I agree with that most wholeheartedly too, and my political perspectives and opinions, don't change the fact of that statement...