No..mailing isn't easy

Why is it people assume that sending mail is a fast easy way to make money?

Just because you can send an email to your mum and CC it to Uncle Bob in Utah doesn't make you a mailer.

As I am sure any of the serious mailers can attest these days mailing has to be a precise and well planned activity. You just can't buy a 10 million email list from some shady hacker online and run it through Dark Mailer. In today's climate you need to be a marketer, lawyer, book keeper and techie all rolled into one.

Clean lists and the ability to keep them clean are imperative, because otherwise you won't be able to get so much as a sentence through to the any ISP worth reaching. Does getting a spam like this really inspire confidence in your company?

Subject: hereIsWhereISaveOnDr.gs!

hereIt is.. you'll loveItLike I do:
http://www.blahblahblah.net

That labels you as either dyslexic or a spammer and people are wise to that these days.

And for those of you thinking that sending through proxies is the easy way to avoid blacklists, don't be suprised when the Federal government comes knocking at your door.

There is only one way to run a successful, legal, efficient mail campaign and that's to target the customers who have expressed interest in your product and ensure that you don't "spam" those that aren't. This is not an easy task, and if you try and fail you aren't a mailer, you are a spammer.

There's no 2 hour nightschool class on mailing you can take and be making millions the next day. As with any venture it's learning and experience that can only be developed through practice and hard work.

[Nickatilynx]

A little sand in your vagina today?

[Peaches]

Speaking of mailers, if anyone has a PPS program we can mail out on our double opt in CAN SPAM compliant mailing list, LMK Must have non-nude graphics.

(this concludes today's thread hijacking spam)

[JoesHO]

so how does one hire one such Maiiler ( are they like bigfoot? elusive and rare?)

[Nickatilynx]

Originally Posted by JoesHO1

so how does one hire one such Maiiler ( are they like bigfoot? elusive and rare?)

$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[JoesHO]

I will pay annyone that is mailing clean and legal 80% revshare for the first three months of the member, and 70% revshare for the rest of the duration.

ALL MAILING MUST BE CLEAN AND LEGAL

serious inquirys need only apply.

[Nickatilynx]

Originally Posted by JoesHO1

I will pay annyone that is mailing clean and legal 80% revshare for the first three months of the member, and 70% revshare for the rest of the duration.

ALL MAILING MUST BE CLEAN AND LEGAL

serious inquirys need only apply.

Not good enough.

Most good mailers servers are already busy.

To stop them and change them to you would require prepay.

[Nickatilynx]

Originally Posted by JoesHO1

I will pay annyone that is mailing clean and legal 80% revshare for the first three months of the member, and 70% revshare for the rest of the duration.

ALL MAILING MUST BE CLEAN AND LEGAL

serious inquirys need only apply.

Ummm I don't know any topflight mailer that will send to a rev share.

To a mailer Rev share says..."I have not got the money to pay you persign up"

[DrGuile]

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

Ummm I don't know any topflight mailer that will send to a rev share.

To a mailer Rev share says..."I have not got the money to pay you persign up"

I thought the saying was "You cant use the revshare money you havent gotten yet to pay for bail"

[TheEnforcer]

I've never heard of a mailer using revshare either... it may happen.... but if so I haven't heard about it...

[JoesHO]

well the offer still stands,

I must make sure the lists are clean and legal, once tat is determined and a relationship is established between myself, and the fully legal compliant mailer.

I will prepay for 200 - 500 joins at a time. at an agreed upon price on an individual basis .

and since I can offer a clean server to a clean mailer I will even throw one in and pick up their costs of Bandwith and ardware too.

I am looking for someone that is clean and interested in making long term money ( short timers or people looking to scam me need not reply)

Things change so anyone looking to find a good solution and or someone just getting into the mailing game looking for a good sponsor to pay them what they are due without belittling them as amateurs I am interested in talking to you.

[Nickatilynx]

Originally Posted by JoesHO1

well the offer still stands,

I must make sure the lists are clean and legal, once tat is determined and a relationship is established between myself, and the fully legal compliant mailer.

I will prepay for 200 - 500 joins at a time. at an agreed upon price on an individual basis .

and since I can offer a clean server to a clean mailer I will even throw one in and pick up their costs of Bandwith and ardware too.

I am looking for someone that is clean and interested in making long term money ( short timers or people looking to scam me need not reply)

Things change so anyone looking to find a good solution and or someone just getting into the mailing game looking for a good sponsor to pay them what they are due without belittling them as amateurs I am interested in talking to you.

One amateur mailer will have your sites down in a heartbeat....

[JR]

Originally Posted by JoesHO1

well the offer still stands,

I must make sure the lists are clean and legal, once tat is determined and a relationship is established between myself, and the fully legal compliant mailer.

I will prepay for 200 - 500 joins at a time. at an agreed upon price on an individual basis .

and since I can offer a clean server to a clean mailer I will even throw one in and pick up their costs of Bandwith and ardware too.

I am looking for someone that is clean and interested in making long term money ( short timers or people looking to scam me need not reply)

Things change so anyone looking to find a good solution and or someone just getting into the mailing game looking for a good sponsor to pay them what they are due without belittling them as amateurs I am interested in talking to you.

hahaha. wow.

my suggestion... forget this idea until you understand the risks and problems. its not just about joins - its about trying to keep a site online long enough for people to join.

[Anthony]

This thread makes my left big toe hurt.

[Anthony]

Joe,

This isn't something you just rush into. Congratulations, you may have just signed the death warrant for your sites.

First Truisms:

There is no such thing as a clean list. You will always have someone who forgets they opt'ed in. It only takes a few complaints to shut down your servers. You should know this, as my servers got shut down by your hosting company off of 3 complaints from people I had full OPT in information of, down to their home address and phone numbers.

Care to go on thinking Mail is the salvation of your program?

Joe...no offence intended...but anyone who'd take you up on your offer is probably precisely the kind of person my rant is aimed at

[Nickatilynx]

Joe , sorry mate...

But a lot of people privately think you "are the rainman of the adult internet" and posts like those sorta remove any doubt.

;-)))

not sure why I keep showing up intermintantly as unregistered. but this is JoesHO


ok point taken, I rescind my offer ....

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by JoesHO1

well the offer still stands,

I must make sure the lists are clean and legal, once tat is determined and a relationship is established between myself, and the fully legal compliant mailer.

I will prepay for 200 - 500 joins at a time. at an agreed upon price on an individual basis .

and since I can offer a clean server to a clean mailer I will even throw one in and pick up their costs of Bandwith and ardware too.

I am looking for someone that is clean and interested in making long term money ( short timers or people looking to scam me need not reply)

Things change so anyone looking to find a good solution and or someone just getting into the mailing game looking for a good sponsor to pay them what they are due without belittling them as amateurs I am interested in talking to you.

So you will determine if the lists are clean. How exactly do you plan on doing that? Just wondering, since you seem to have zero experience in mailing?

As for making long term money... Good luck on finding someone mailing for rev share. There's a better chance I have a 14 inch penis than that ever happening.

You think you are the only good sponsor? Dude, we spend thousands and thousands of dollars, at AVN shows, Internext, Players Balls, banners on boards, have a huge ass team that posts. Who do you think they will send their traffic too first? One that does PPS for 40 bucks a pop, or a revshare no one has ever heard of?

You need to crawl before you run, and trust me, mail is all about sprinting, in more ways than one.

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

Joe , sorry mate...

But a lot of people privately think you "are the rainman of the adult internet" and posts like those sorta remove any doubt.

;-)))

I am the rainman.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

not sure why I keep showing up intermintantly as unregistered. but this is JoesHO


ok point taken, I rescind my offer ....

Good idea.

Maybe get the hang of login in to Oprano first, before thinking of taking email.

Amen to that Tony....it only takes a few people too crazy, too vindictive, or just too stupid to realise or care they opted into your mailing to take your server down. Despite what they say, ISPs don't care about opt in or whether you are a legitimate mailer or whatever....the bottom line is complaints. And these days if you get more than 3 or 4 a month they'll take your server down for good. Now even in a "clean" list of 50,000 a few people like that aren't hard to find.

[gold4dinar]

anybody know who is this guy?
I get 40 emails daily from him he is spamming 5-6 sponsors.



Subject: Nasty anal fruit salad


Hi there and welcome to wonderful Radio One it's seven thirty three in the morning and here's a golden oldie a great classic from Arthur Askey! )
very beautiful blonde plays with her pussy
Itallian cutie sucking
Mature wife spreads
Spicy twink is into fooling around with a gloryhole


http://www.gahucagome.com/coeds.html...SffWQfYhVX,hVX


Babe with a wet pussy fucks her dad
Less licking and dildoing
Small tittied blonde coed fuck

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by gold4dinar

anybody know who is this guy?
I get 40 emails daily from him he is spamming 5-6 sponsors.



Subject: Nasty anal fruit salad


Hi there and welcome to wonderful Radio One it's seven thirty three in the morning and here's a golden oldie a great classic from Arthur Askey! )
very beautiful blonde plays with her pussy
Itallian cutie sucking
Mature wife spreads
Spicy twink is into fooling around with a gloryhole


http://www.gahucagome.com/coeds.html...SffWQfYhVX,hVX


Babe with a wet pussy fucks her dad
Less licking and dildoing
Small tittied blonde coed fuck

This gets through your filters? Because when mine are on, I would never see this.

[Nickatilynx]

Originally Posted by gold4dinar

anybody know who is this guy?
I get 40 emails daily from him he is spamming 5-6 sponsors.



Subject: Nasty anal fruit salad


Hi there and welcome to wonderful Radio One it's seven thirty three in the morning and here's a golden oldie a great classic from Arthur Askey! )
very beautiful blonde plays with her pussy
Itallian cutie sucking
Mature wife spreads
Spicy twink is into fooling around with a gloryhole


http://www.gahucagome.com/coeds.html...SffWQfYhVX,hVX


Babe with a wet pussy fucks her dad
Less licking and dildoing
Small tittied blonde coed fuck

not a clue but Radio one is UK , and arthur askey is an olde time music hall UK artist. A right annoying twat in fact. Probably long dead LOL

[Nickatilynx]

Originally Posted by Anthony

This gets through your filters? Because when mine are on, I would never see this.

I know sometimes , rarely, I don't see yours!! LOL

;'-)))

[Dravyk]

Originally Posted by Anthony

This gets through your filters? Because when mine are on, I would never see this.

I also have the words "fruit salad" filtered.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

I know sometimes , rarely, I don't see yours!! LOL

;'-)))

Oh come on, i use the newest ways.

()h y()u \/\/4nt s0me of dis.

[L1ck h3re n()\/\/

[Nickatilynx]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Oh come on, i use the newest ways.

()h y()u \/\/4nt s0me of dis.

[L1ck h3re n()\/\/

I love seeing those ones!!!!!

the best is when they take one of yours that has got into there's and try to copy it , without knowing...

;-)))

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

I love seeing those ones!!!!!

the best is when they take one of yours that has got into there's and try to copy it , without knowing...

;-)))

HAHAHA, i just made that one up, I bet it would get through filters!

Thank God we no longer have to deal with that. Being on the right side of the fence has it's benefits.

[Dravyk]

So which one of you is Proclamation P. Jones, Salamander Q. Alexander and Valatorious B. Renaissance?

[Nickatilynx]

Originally Posted by Anthony

HAHAHA, i just made that one up, I bet it would get through filters!

Thank God we no longer have to deal with that. Being on the right side of the fence has it's benefits.

It does indeed

Got your new gats yet?

[gold4dinar]

Originally Posted by Anthony

This gets through your filters? .

Yes, I dont use much filters because it marks many real emails as junk too.

[DrGuile]

Originally Posted by gold4dinar

Yes, I dont use much filters because it marks many real emails as junk too.

http://spambayes.sourceforge.net

best filter ever... and it doesnt rely on the judgement of others.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

It does indeed

Got your new gats yet?

Yes indeed! I got the Kobra Carry last night! I did so much research into that gun, I thought I knew it inside and out. I swear to you, my son could fire this gun, it is that sweet! The recoil is almost non existant for a .45! I got to put 150 rounds through it, and I'll do another 200 today. Break in is supposed to be around 1000 rounds. Is it worth the $2500.00 price tag? All day long!

The AR15 is a drawn out story. To make it short, I went to my buddy's house to get it, cash in hand. He goes to get it out of his closet, and it's gone! The deduced it to one of their friends who went in at lunch to grab something from the house, and he ended up stealing the rifle. Fucked up, eh?

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Technick

Amen to that Tony....it only takes a few people too crazy, too vindictive, or just too stupid to realise or care they opted into your mailing to take your server down. Despite what they say, ISPs don't care about opt in or whether you are a legitimate mailer or whatever....the bottom line is complaints. And these days if you get more than 3 or 4 a month they'll take your server down for good. Now even in a "clean" list of 50,000 a few people like that aren't hard to find.

I can die now. The world ended. This is the first time in over 6 years that you have ever agreed with me on anything!!!

[Nickatilynx]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Yes indeed! I got the Kobra Carry last night! I did so much research into that gun, I thought I knew it inside and out. I swear to you, my son could fire this gun, it is that sweet! The recoil is almost non existant for a .45! I got to put 150 rounds through it, and I'll do another 200 today. Break in is supposed to be around 1000 rounds. Is it worth the $2500.00 price tag? All day long!

The AR15 is a drawn out story. To make it short, I went to my buddy's house to get it, cash in hand. He goes to get it out of his closet, and it's gone! The deduced it to one of their friends who went in at lunch to grab something from the house, and he ended up stealing the rifle. Fucked up, eh?

Sweet gun!

But that is seriously fucked up.Someone nicking his gun?

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

Sweet gun!

But that is seriously fucked up.Someone nicking his gun?

Walked into his house, took the gun out of it's container and left.

He confronted the guy, and to test his reaction, said, " You know the gun doesn't work without the clips you left, right?" It seems the thiefs draw dropped, but still didn't confess to it.

My buddy made such a big production of loading his GLOCK 9mm and saying he was gonna shoot his ass for stealing from him, yadda yadaa, yadaa.

Nothing happened, he called the cops instead.

Originally Posted by Anthony

Yes indeed! I got the Kobra Carry last night! I did so much research into that gun, I thought I knew it inside and out. I swear to you, my son could fire this gun, it is that sweet! The recoil is almost non existant for a .45! I got to put 150 rounds through it, and I'll do another 200 today. Break in is supposed to be around 1000 rounds. Is it worth the $2500.00 price tag? All day long!

How on earth can a gun be worth $2500? I mean especially one that looks so gay

I'm guessing a bigger more macho one wouldn't fit in your handbag

[MorganGrayson]

Originally Posted by Dravyk

So which one of you is Proclamation P. Jones, Salamander Q. Alexander and Valatorious B. Renaissance?

Thunderbird cheerfully takes all of those and deposits them in the "junk" file, but I always double check that to make sure it hasn't made an error and junked something I want...which it does rarely. *Love* this program.

I *am* swiping "Proclamation Jones" for a character in a novel, though.

[Nickatilynx]

Originally Posted by Technick

How on earth can a gun be worth $2500? I mean especially one that looks so gay

I'm guessing a bigger more macho one wouldn't fit in your handbag

Oh its on!!!!

lol

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Technick

How on earth can a gun be worth $2500? I mean especially one that looks so gay

I'm guessing a bigger more macho one wouldn't fit in your handbag

I will defer to your intimate knowledge about the gun being *gay* looking. You would know, firsthand.

Though others view differently, I will endeavor to let them all know on their board that the gun we have all bought, is gay.

The lot of them are nothing but homos, myself included.



On that note, I'm off to play with my gay gun.

I noticed you didn't send me the ICQ till after I put myself on away! Bastard!

[DollarManSteve]

Managing people who send email is a full time job for some.

[Nickatilynx]

Originally Posted by DollarManSteve

Managing people who send email is a full time job for some.

Just buys us shit and send us lots of money every week and we tend to be good

We may sulk and yell sometimes but once the wire hits we are all very nice.


Hmmmmm ,cool , its Tuesday...not long to go....

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

Just buys us shit and send us lots of money every week and we tend to be good

We may sulk and yell sometimes but once the wire hits we are all very nice.


Hmmmmm ,cool , its Tuesday...not long to go....

Shit, I got the number before I left to go shooting and meant to call you.

Calling now.

[Nickatilynx]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Shit, I got the number before I left to go shooting and meant to call you.

Calling now.

Nice call.

Most Excellent number

No one of course would believe it if we posted it.... might buy 2 or 3 pantera's

;-)))