Anybody interested in doing a "group project"

sarettah · 08-02-2005

Domtheboy's question over in http://oprano.com/msgboard/showthread.php?t=42007 got me thinking that it might be cool to do a little group project around setting up a tgp and feeding it from remote thumbs.

It would probably benefit noobies the most, but I am sure that from a project like that almost anybody could gain some pretty useful info.

I picture the project steps would be:

First, round up the participants.

2. Do a little html workshop one afternoon to make sure that everyone has the htm skills necessary.

3. Do a remotethumbs workshop on another afternoon and get everybody all set up on the servers proper.

4. Then a little workshop to build a couple of little php or java scripts to do some trades and banner rotations, that sort of thing

5. and then a final workshop to put it all together.

I will volunteer to run whatever workshops I know enough about to do a good job with and I am sure I can find a few other folks to help out.

So, anybody up for it...

Any newbies or for that matter anybody that would like to be involved go ahead and post in this thread. If I can get 5 people that are willing to play then I will go ahead and start coordinating the scheduling of it.

Thanx in advance

domtheboy · 08-02-2005

Sounds very interesting - this is exactly where I need to start so count me in sarettah

sarettah · 08-02-2005

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Originally Posted by domtheboy

Sounds very interesting - this is exactly where I need to start so count me in sarettah

Cool....

gonzo · 08-03-2005

You mean like this one?

http://www.freepornbandits.com

JoesHO · 08-03-2005

Yes, we would love to help in this project, in any manner that we could. We will all three be in florida for internext ( I am here now)

so if we do not respond rigt away it is not cause we are not interested, we would love to do good group project

MorganGrayson · 08-03-2005

I want to play!

My role will be that of the "impossibly cheerful newbie" who would like to branch out into something different and increase her knowledge base.

Trev · 08-03-2005

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Originally Posted by sarettah

I will volunteer to run whatever workshops I know enough about to do a good job with and I am sure I can find a few other folks to help out.

This should have everyone in your ICQ list running for the hills

domtheboy · 08-03-2005

sarettah, I added you to my ICQ, let me know when you're thinking of kicking off the sessions so I can make sure I'm available

sarettah · 08-04-2005

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Originally Posted by domtheboy

sarettah, I added you to my ICQ, let me know when you're thinking of kicking off the sessions so I can make sure I'm available

Will do

domtheboy · 08-04-2005

Bumpety bump, anyone else interested ?

Trev · 08-04-2005

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Originally Posted by domtheboy

Bumpety bump, anyone else interested ?

How many more do you guys need to have enough to get this up and running?

sarettah · 08-04-2005

As far as I am concerned. 1 is enough to make it worth doing. We have at least 1, so I will start putting stuff together

Trev · 08-04-2005

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Originally Posted by sarettah

As far as I am concerned. 1 is enough to make it worth doing. We have at least 1, so I will start putting stuff together

I might free up some time and join in, if that's ok with you

MorganGrayson · 08-04-2005

Written Temptations is donating a packet of straight hardcore erotic stories to anyone who participats in this group project! If you want to add erotic stories to your TGP, this will be a great start! You are also, of course, permitted to use them on your freesites!

Let's get as many people as we can interested in this project and the generous donation of time by sarettah et al!

domtheboy · 08-04-2005

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Originally Posted by MorganGrayson

Written Temptations is donating a packet of straight hardcore erotic stories to anyone who participats in this group project! If you want to add erotic stories to your TGP, this will be a great start! You are also, of course, permitted to use them on your freesites!

Let's get as many people as we can interested in this project and the generous donation of time by sarettah et al!

Quality offer Morgan, very generous of you

sarettah · 08-06-2005

That is a nice offer. Thanx

I have a couple of things to put to rest and then I will get on this.

*******

Trev, of course.

domtheboy · 08-07-2005

Sounds all good, can't wait to get started

!

gonzo · 08-08-2005

I mentioned the addition of a submit addon to the Oprano TGP hub freepornbandits.com . He said he would drop that in as soon as he was able to get back home and code it up.

TGP project is a year old this week. Sare was involved with its inception. Ill remind Boldy again. In the meantime I would encourage each and everyone of you to build niche specific TGPs with remote thumbs and we can hook them into freepornbandits.com .

The next project I would like to start would be a network of top lists.

sarettah · 08-08-2005

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Originally Posted by gonzo

I mentioned the addition of a submit addon to the Oprano TGP hub freepornbandits.com . He said he would drop that in as soon as he was able to get back home and code it up.

TGP project is a year old this week. Sare was involved with its inception. Ill remind Boldy again. In the meantime I would encourage each and everyone of you to build niche specific TGPs with remote thumbs and we can hook them into freepornbandits.com .

The next project I would like to start would be a network of top lists.

Hmmm... Thanx for the input Gonz

You just gave me a couple of ideas....

MorganGrayson · 08-08-2005

My ICQ is 220-769-506 if anyone would like to add me.

domtheboy · 08-09-2005

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Originally Posted by MorganGrayson

My ICQ is 220-769-506 if anyone would like to add me.

Well, since ya asked

sarettah · 08-09-2005

Added you Morgan and you too dom

domtheboy · 08-10-2005

Sweet, I'm gonna spend some time reading up on my html as prep

Trev · 08-10-2005

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Originally Posted by domtheboy

Sweet, I'm gonna spend some time reading up on my html as prep

I'm getting the feeling you're in the know, why am I always the last in the loop

domtheboy · 08-10-2005

Trev ->

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Originally Posted by sarettah

2. Do a little html workshop one afternoon to make sure that everyone has the htm skills necessary.

Ya just gotta read carefully

Trev · 08-11-2005

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Originally Posted by domtheboy

Trev ->

Ya just gotta read carefully

hahahahaha, good point

domtheboy · 08-11-2005

So when are we gonna kick off then sarettah, eh ?

(Where's the champing at the bit smiley ?)

sarettah · 08-11-2005

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Originally Posted by domtheboy

So when are we gonna kick off then sarettah, eh ?

(Where's the champing at the bit smiley ?)

I'm working on it, I'm working on it.......

sarettah · 08-12-2005

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Originally Posted by domtheboy

So when are we gonna kick off then sarettah, eh ?

(Where's the champing at the bit smiley ?)

Need some input, just not sure on what...lol....

Since you started this with a post..

How are you on html first of all ?

Do you handcode, generate, what ?

Do you use styles at all ? And if so, inline or style sheets ?

Have you done any scripting ?

If so, what ? Javascript, php, asp... ?

I am still trying to figure out a schedule of sorts, so I will also ask, would you want to do this whole thing across one day, a couple of days, a week, a couple of weeks ?

That should be enough for now

domtheboy · 08-14-2005

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Originally Posted by sarettah

Need some input, just not sure on what...lol....

Since you started this with a post..

How are you on html first of all ?

Do you handcode, generate, what ?

Do you use styles at all ? And if so, inline or style sheets ?

Have you done any scripting ?

If so, what ? Javascript, php, asp... ?

I am still trying to figure out a schedule of sorts, so I will also ask, would you want to do this whole thing across one day, a couple of days, a week, a couple of weeks ?

That should be enough for now

Right, here goes...

HTML - I have a basic knowledge and have previously built very basic pages using entry level HTML commands. As far as the galleries go that I submit, I use purchased templates. This is because I would never in a month of Sundays be able to produce templates of the quality of those I'm using now. So to summarise, I'm familiar with HTML commands and what they do, I also have reference books and so on so I wouldn't be completely all at sea if asked to look something up or read up on a particular area.

Regarding styles (I'm assuming you mean CSS ?) - again I'm familiar with styles and what they do (setting a common font, font size, colour etc) so that you can alter multiple areas of an HTML page all at once without having to manually go in and enter all the tags within the code by hand. I have no practical experience of using them other than the practise exercises within one of the books I have.

Scripting is completely new to me - I've got no scripting experience whatsoever I'm afraid (God this is the worst CV I've ever written

)

So now that I've admitted that I know virtually nothing about how to use a PC other than find smut on the internet, I'll give you a little time to stop weeping openly and think about a schedule

Joking aside, I think it would probably be best to plan across a couple of weeks doing small segments as we go. I'd also add that one thing I have in my favour is that I do pick new stuff up quickly so I'm pretty confident that I can go from unseeded amateur to pro pretty quickly

Over to you dude !

Trev · 08-14-2005

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Originally Posted by domtheboy

Right, here goes...

HTML - I have a basic knowledge and have previously built very basic pages using entry level HTML commands. As far as the galleries go that I submit, I use purchased templates. This is because I would never in a month of Sundays be able to produce templates of the quality of those I'm using now. So to summarise, I'm familiar with HTML commands and what they do, I also have reference books and so on so I wouldn't be completely all at sea if asked to look something up or read up on a particular area.

Regarding styles (I'm assuming you mean CSS ?) - again I'm familiar with styles and what they do (setting a common font, font size, colour etc) so that you can alter multiple areas of an HTML page all at once without having to manually go in and enter all the tags within the code by hand. I have no practical experience of using them other than the practise exercises within one of the books I have.

Scripting is completely new to me - I've got no scripting experience whatsoever I'm afraid (God this is the worst CV I've ever written

)

So now that I've admitted that I know virtually nothing about how to use a PC other than find smut on the internet, I'll give you a little time to stop weeping openly and think about a schedule

Joking aside, I think it would probably be best to plan across a couple of weeks doing small segments as we go. I'd also add that one thing I have in my favour is that I do pick new stuff up quickly so I'm pretty confident that I can go from unseeded amateur to pro pretty quickly

Over to you dude !

Do you have hosting?

domtheboy · 08-14-2005

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Originally Posted by Trev

Do you have hosting?

Cheeky bugger

Yeah I have my own domain set up and galleries hosted, but the thing is I've had a lot of help from friends in getting that all set up. As you can see there are big gaps in my knowledge so I want to start from the ground up to make sure I don't miss anything.

sarettah is going to stick his head in the oven when he reads this.....

Trev · 08-14-2005

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Originally Posted by domtheboy

Cheeky bugger

Yeah I have my own domain set up and galleries hosted, but the thing is I've had a lot of help from friends in getting that all set up. As you can see there are big gaps in my knowledge so I want to start from the ground up to make sure I don't miss anything.

sarettah is going to stick his head in the oven when he reads this.....

With the knowledge you've got and your own hosting I think we can make a go of this, not sure what Sarettah has in mind but I'm more than happy to lend you a hand, plus I'll be taking part as well

domtheboy · 08-14-2005

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Originally Posted by Trev

With the knowledge you've got and your own hosting I think we can make a go of this, not sure what Sarettah has in mind but I'm more than happy to lend you a hand, plus I'll be taking part as well

That's brilliant, and I really appreciate the offers for help. Whenever someone asks me about my level of ability in any subject I always assess myself very harshly.

The reason being is that I'd prefer start an exercise and have my teacher be pleasantly suprised (i.e, "When we started you said you knew nothing about this Dom, but you actually know more than you think you do") at my level of ability, than to start learning something new, f@ck it all up and have people saying "Jesus, this guy said he knew HTML and he knows bugger all !". I hope that makes sense

Just in case anyone is worried about my ability (or lack of it) though, I'd say that I started submitting galleries in Nov of last year and at the time I had no experience of working in the adult game whatsoever. In that time I've learned how to submit, where to submit to, what the different niches are, how to use Dreamweaver to add photos to templates, how to use thumbnail cropping software, how to improve and edit photos in P/shop and so on and so on. So I'm confident that if I managed to pick that little lot up then I should be able to handle getting down to the nitty gritty in scripts and so on

Trev · 08-14-2005

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Originally Posted by domtheboy

That's brilliant, and I really appreciate the offers for help. Whenever someone asks me about my level of ability in any subject I always assess myself very harshly.

The reason being is that I'd prefer start an exercise and have my teacher be pleasantly suprised (i.e, "When we started you said you knew nothing about this Dom, but you actually know more than you think you do") at my level of ability, than to start learning something new, f@ck it all up and have people saying "Jesus, this guy said he knew HTML and he knows bugger all !". I hope that makes sense

Just in case anyone is worried about my ability (or lack of it) though, I'd say that I started submitting galleries in Nov of last year and at the time I had no experience of working in the adult game whatsoever. In that time I've learned how to submit, where to submit to, what the different niches are, how to use Dreamweaver to add photos to templates, how to use thumbnail cropping software, how to improve and edit photos in P/shop and so on and so on. So I'm confident that if I managed to pick that little lot up then I should be able to handle getting down to the nitty gritty in scripts and so on

It made perfect sense to me

sarettah · 08-14-2005

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Originally Posted by domtheboy

HTML - I have a basic knowledge and have previously built very basic pages using entry level HTML commands. As far as the galleries go that I submit, I use purchased templates. This is because I would never in a month of Sundays be able to produce templates of the quality of those I'm using now. So to summarise, I'm familiar with HTML commands and what they do, I also have reference books and so on so I wouldn't be completely all at sea if asked to look something up or read up on a particular area.

Good. A basic knowledge is all that's really needed

I suck at page design too and I have a fucking art degree..lolol... It just has not translated over very well.

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Originally Posted by domtheboy

Regarding styles (I'm assuming you mean CSS ?) - again I'm familiar with styles and what they do (setting a common font, font size, colour etc) so that you can alter multiple areas of an HTML page all at once without having to manually go in and enter all the tags within the code by hand. I have no practical experience of using them other than the practise exercises within one of the books I have.

I use a bit of style pages (css) but am more likely to use a combination of html and inline styles than I am to use a style sheet. CSS can be powerful stuff, so we should probably play with it a bit. Inline style is very similar to just straight HTML so that might be easier to understand at first, but in reality style sheets and inline are both the same animal for the most part.

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Originally Posted by domtheboy

Scripting is completely new to me - I've got no scripting experience whatsoever I'm afraid (God this is the worst CV I've ever written

)

Cool, programming is what I know best and eventhough you could do a tgp with a lot of straight html with ssi calls, it will be more fun if we throw in a little php. Also would let us have a submission page and a little database if we want.

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Originally Posted by domtheboy

Joking aside, I think it would probably be best to plan across a couple of weeks doing small segments as we go. I'd also add that one thing I have in my favour is that I do pick new stuff up quickly so I'm pretty confident that I can go from unseeded amateur to pro pretty quickly

Confidence helps

Ok, across a couple of weeks sounds like a plan to me

sarettah · 08-14-2005

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Originally Posted by Trev

not sure what Sarettah has in mind

Either does sarettah

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but I'm more than happy to lend you a hand, plus I'll be taking part as well

You will be lending me a hand too, I hope.................please

Trev · 08-15-2005

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Originally Posted by Sarettah

You will be lending me a hand too, I hope.................please

Most certainly mate

domtheboy · 08-15-2005

Sweet, not only am I soon to be on the way to financial success beyond my wildest dreams, but I've also got enough posts to qualify for an Oprano cap !

sarettah · 08-15-2005

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Originally Posted by domtheboy

Sweet, not only am I soon to be on the way to financial success beyond my wildest dreams

Now you have to "give me a little time to stop weeping openly"

domtheboy · 08-15-2005

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Originally Posted by sarettah

Now you have to "give me a little time to stop weeping openly"

Take as long as ya need

Bhelliom · 08-15-2005

Can I join this for a purely learning experience kind of thing? Or am I too late?

domtheboy · 08-15-2005

I think Sarettah was hoping to get a couple of people and he's still pulling the curriculum together, so you should still be in time Bhelliom

Trev · 08-15-2005

You're more than welcome to join Bhelliom, Sarettah is still bolting the wheels on this thing then we should be good to go

MorganGrayson · 08-15-2005

Dumb newbie question:

Will the TGP we will be making accept submisisons from other webmasters? I'm a little unclear on what it is we will be construction here.

I'm all for it, whatever it is!

sarettah · 08-15-2005

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Originally Posted by MorganGrayson

Dumb newbie question:

Will the TGP we will be making accept submisisons from other webmasters? I'm a little unclear on what it is we will be construction here.

I'm all for it, whatever it is!

I believe the original request was how to make a tgp with the idea of later accepting submissions. However, if we want to play with php and mysql, we could probably do a pretty elementary submission database type thing too...

MorganGrayson · 08-15-2005

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Originally Posted by sarettah

I believe the original request was how to make a tgp with the idea of later accepting submissions. However, if we want to play with php and mysql, we could probably do a pretty elementary submission database type thing too...

Let me explain how this works, sarettah.

I ask a question, like "are we building a TGP that accepts submissions?"

You say either "yes" or "no."

Nothing that has "php" or "mysql" in it strikes me as "elementary."

Bhelliom · 08-16-2005

Cool I'd love to learn a little more about all this stuff...

My experience in html.....

I surf the net really well...

To answer Sare's questions

How are you on html first of all ? Weak - Beginner

Do you handcode, generate, what ? Frontpage

Do you use styles at all ? And if so, inline or style sheets ? What?

Have you done any scripting ? no

If so, what ? Javascript, php, asp... ? nothing like that

Have done C++ though.... if that helps :P

Seriously though. I've done a course in college last year called "e commerce" this was essentially "build a (mainstream)site using frontpage" so that's all I really know. Although I do know a little more than that, It has been a really long time since I've actually built anything.

scripting I know nothing about. I'm learning xml a little now for my new job.

sarettah · 08-17-2005

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Originally Posted by Bhelliom

Cool I'd love to learn a little more about all this stuff...

How are you on html first of all ? Weak - Beginner
Do you handcode, generate, what ? Frontpage
Do you use styles at all ? And if so, inline or style sheets ? What?
Have you done any scripting ? no
If so, what ? Javascript, php, asp... ? nothing like that
Have done C++ though.... if that helps :P

The C++ will help with understanding the scripting parts most definitely......

DannyCox · 08-17-2005

I've been in this Internet "business" since 1994, and I still don't have the first clue how all the TGP stuff really works. (I've always had others do it for me)

I'd even be interested in learning

08-02-2005	#1
sarettah Stay Out Of The Box Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Lost in the ozone Posts: 10,318	Anybody interested in doing a "group project" Domtheboy's question over in http://oprano.com/msgboard/showthread.php?t=42007 got me thinking that it might be cool to do a little group project around setting up a tgp and feeding it from remote thumbs. It would probably benefit noobies the most, but I am sure that from a project like that almost anybody could gain some pretty useful info. I picture the project steps would be: First, round up the participants. 2. Do a little html workshop one afternoon to make sure that everyone has the htm skills necessary. 3. Do a remotethumbs workshop on another afternoon and get everybody all set up on the servers proper. 4. Then a little workshop to build a couple of little php or java scripts to do some trades and banner rotations, that sort of thing 5. and then a final workshop to put it all together. I will volunteer to run whatever workshops I know enough about to do a good job with and I am sure I can find a few other folks to help out. So, anybody up for it... Any newbies or for that matter anybody that would like to be involved go ahead and post in this thread. If I can get 5 people that are willing to play then I will go ahead and start coordinating the scheduling of it. Thanx in advance __________________ Free Adult Webcams

08-02-2005	#2
domtheboy Members Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 612	Re: Anybody interested in doing a "group project" Sounds very interesting - this is exactly where I need to start so count me in sarettah

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gonzo Fat Fucking Nobody Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta,Ga. Posts: 17,795 Blog Entries: 11	Re: Anybody interested in doing a "group project" You mean like this one? http://www.freepornbandits.com __________________ We are putting the bastards of this world on notice; greed and corruption will always be met with "a voice made of ink and rage." "Never try and be like anyone else" - Hunter S. Thompson "The truth is the truth no matter how you try and package a lie" - Shellee Hale

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JoesHO Members Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,085	Re: Anybody interested in doing a "group project" Yes, we would love to help in this project, in any manner that we could. We will all three be in florida for internext ( I am here now) so if we do not respond rigt away it is not cause we are not interested, we would love to do good group project __________________ AEBN THE GLOBAL LEADER IN ADULT EVOLUTION something FIT this way comes!

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MorganGrayson None $100 for every ImLive sign-up Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,321	Re: Anybody interested in doing a "group project" I want to play! My role will be that of the "impossibly cheerful newbie" who would like to branch out into something different and increase her knowledge base.

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domtheboy Members Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 612	Re: Anybody interested in doing a "group project" Bumpety bump, anyone else interested ?

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sarettah Stay Out Of The Box Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Lost in the ozone Posts: 10,318	Re: Anybody interested in doing a "group project" That is a nice offer. Thanx I have a couple of things to put to rest and then I will get on this. ******* Trev, of course. __________________ Free Adult Webcams

08-07-2005	#17
domtheboy Members Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 612	Re: Anybody interested in doing a "group project" Sounds all good, can't wait to get started !

08-08-2005	#18
gonzo Fat Fucking Nobody Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta,Ga. Posts: 17,795 Blog Entries: 11	Re: Anybody interested in doing a "group project" I mentioned the addition of a submit addon to the Oprano TGP hub freepornbandits.com . He said he would drop that in as soon as he was able to get back home and code it up. TGP project is a year old this week. Sare was involved with its inception. Ill remind Boldy again. In the meantime I would encourage each and everyone of you to build niche specific TGPs with remote thumbs and we can hook them into freepornbandits.com . The next project I would like to start would be a network of top lists. __________________ We are putting the bastards of this world on notice; greed and corruption will always be met with "a voice made of ink and rage." "Never try and be like anyone else" - Hunter S. Thompson "The truth is the truth no matter how you try and package a lie" - Shellee Hale

08-09-2005	#22
sarettah Stay Out Of The Box Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Lost in the ozone Posts: 10,318	Re: Anybody interested in doing a "group project" Added you Morgan and you too dom __________________ Free Adult Webcams

08-10-2005	#23
domtheboy Members Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 612	Re: Anybody interested in doing a "group project" Sweet, I'm gonna spend some time reading up on my html as prep

08-11-2005	#27
domtheboy Members Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 612	Re: Anybody interested in doing a "group project" So when are we gonna kick off then sarettah, eh ? (Where's the champing at the bit smiley ?)

08-15-2005	#39
domtheboy Members Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 612	Re: Anybody interested in doing a "group project" Sweet, not only am I soon to be on the way to financial success beyond my wildest dreams, but I've also got enough posts to qualify for an Oprano cap !

08-15-2005	#42
Bhelliom Will fuck for beer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,143	Re: Anybody interested in doing a "group project" Can I join this for a purely learning experience kind of thing? Or am I too late? __________________ I am a Sado-Machiavellian. As long as I cum in the end... It doesn't matter what I did to get there. :yowsa: I just made that term up.... pretty good eh?

08-15-2005	#44
Trev Cunty Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,150	Re: Anybody interested in doing a "group project" You're more than welcome to join Bhelliom, Sarettah is still bolting the wheels on this thing then we should be good to go __________________ Sucks to be you.

08-16-2005	#48
Bhelliom Will fuck for beer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,143	Re: Anybody interested in doing a "group project" Cool I'd love to learn a little more about all this stuff... My experience in html..... I surf the net really well... To answer Sare's questions How are you on html first of all ? Weak - Beginner Do you handcode, generate, what ? Frontpage Do you use styles at all ? And if so, inline or style sheets ? What? Have you done any scripting ? no If so, what ? Javascript, php, asp... ? nothing like that Have done C++ though.... if that helps :P Seriously though. I've done a course in college last year called "e commerce" this was essentially "build a (mainstream)site using frontpage" so that's all I really know. Although I do know a little more than that, It has been a really long time since I've actually built anything. scripting I know nothing about. I'm learning xml a little now for my new job. __________________ I am a Sado-Machiavellian. As long as I cum in the end... It doesn't matter what I did to get there. :yowsa: I just made that term up.... pretty good eh?

08-17-2005	#50
DannyCox I like cheese Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal, QC, CA Posts: 1,185	Re: Anybody interested in doing a "group project" I've been in this Internet "business" since 1994, and I still don't have the first clue how all the TGP stuff really works. (I've always had others do it for me) I'd even be interested in learning __________________ iAmateurs Network Amateur Niche Affiliate Programs