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Old 06-19-2005   #101
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I'm also in no hurry to deal with the inevitable government interference with mobile porn....
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Can you really make an argument that technology won't get there, that countries won't change politically, and company policies will remain stagnant. These things will change, and I will be there.
In the next 5 years China, Pakistan, Indonesia, Turkey, India and other countries where porn is illegal will not legalize porn.

In the next 5 years Nokia and other manufacturers will not pre-install porn on their devices before shipping.

In the next 5 years Verizon and other operators will not market pornography directly to their subscribers.

In the next 5 years there won't be any significant increase in screensize technology at an end user affordable mass market scale.

If you believe otherwise and are banking on any of the above to happen within the next 5 years you are living in dreamland.

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OK Timon. Now actually answer this. What should I focus on?
If you have to ask then you don't deserve to know ;-))

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You are on an adult board, talking to an adult webmaster.
It's a shame you see it that way. People who see this as a business board and see themselves as a businessman rather than a pornographer have so much more potential
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Adult will be only a small, but very lucrative tip of the mobile market, the main money is in mainstream and always will be. Doesnt hurt to have fingers in all pies
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Adult will be only a small, but very lucrative tip of the mobile market, the main money is in mainstream and always will be. Doesnt hurt to have fingers in all pies
Definitely, nothing wrong with doing adult if you approach it from that perspective
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Can you really make an argument that technology won't get there, that countries won't change politically, and company policies will remain stagnant. These things will change, and I will be there.
In the next 5 years China, Pakistan, Indonesia, Turkey, India and other countries where porn is illegal will not legalize porn.

In the next 5 years Nokia and other manufacturers will not pre-install porn on their devices before shipping.

In the next 5 years Verizon and other operators will not market pornography directly to their subscribers.

In the next 5 years there won't be any significant increase in screensize technology at an end user affordable mass market scale.

If you believe otherwise and are banking on any of the above to happen within the next 5 years you are living in dreamland.

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OK Timon. Now actually answer this. What should I focus on?
If you have to ask then you don't deserve to know ;-))

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You are on an adult board, talking to an adult webmaster.
It's a shame you see it that way. People who see this as a business board and see themselves as a businessman rather than a pornographer have so much more potential
"In the next 5 years there won't be any significant increase in screensize technology at an end user affordable mass market scale"

HAHAHAHAHAHA


"It's a shame you see it that way. People who see this as a business board and see themselves as a businessman rather than a pornographer have so much more potential "


Actually I am quite proud to be both a pornographer and a business man. However I am noticing you are retreating to subtle insults and pure fantasy in substitution of an actual argument.
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IMO, First-Mover advantage is for the most overrated - unless you can patent your idea/concept/product or buy the land/property. That doesn´t mean you shouldn´t try and invest if you belive in the idea, but you should know that once the money is there, then competition will be fierce.

So rule of thumb - you need to make high margin profits today, so that you will have money, when the market evolves into the next level (unless you are looking to cashout at that time ;-)))
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"In the next 5 years there won't be any significant increase in screensize technology at an end user affordable mass market scale"

HAHAHAHAHAHA
What's so funny?

Are you telling me that you believe that the majority of cellphones will have an expandable fabric screen within 5 years from now so instead of focussing your business on what is available now you are banking on that happening?

Then I'll retreat to a not so subtle insult, you're a moron ;-)
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South Korea is a minimum of 6-24 months ahead of europe/us, when it comes to mobile technology. So if you can spot any new major development in the mobile technology/usage in South Korea, then you have lots of time to get ready in the US or Europe ;-)

Here is some of the latest I could find from South Korea:

http://laptopmag.com/Features/The-Seoul-of...-Cell-Phone.htm

or bookmark http://www.sec.co.kr/ and visit that site once every year, so you know what is coming ;-))
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"In the next 5 years there won't be any significant increase in screensize technology at an end user affordable mass market scale"

HAHAHAHAHAHA
What's so funny?

Are you telling me that you believe that the majority of cellphones will have an expandable fabric screen within 5 years from now so instead of focussing your business on what is available now you are banking on that happening?

Then I'll retreat to a not so subtle insult, you're a moron ;-)
I was just pointing to those as an example. But you saying there will be no "SIGNIFICANT" screen size changes, in 5 years. That is funny.

For the record I don't think there will be theater size screeens that pop out of your phone like a switch blade. However no significant change is NOT possible. Have you seen the PSP screen?

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HAHAHAHAHAHA
What's so funny?

Are you telling me that you believe that the majority of cellphones will have an expandable fabric screen within 5 years from now so instead of focussing your business on what is available now you are banking on that happening?

Then I'll retreat to a not so subtle insult, you're a moron ;-)
Holy ongoing thread batman!

My question is, Timon, why are you spending so much time talking about things you clearly don't have a handle on?

Shouldn't you be out doing something more lucrative, like selling cars or whatever you do?

If we agree with you, will you shut up? Fine, you are right. People who waste their time selling porn don't get it. All the money is in mainstream... nothing to see here.

Good luck working on your ringtone, or whatever your big mobile idea is.
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My question is, Timon, why are you spending so much time talking about things you clearly don't have a handle on?

Shouldn't you be out doing something more lucrative, like selling cars or whatever you do?
Because I got annoyed by all the folks on here talking about mobile porn like it's this huge thing on the horizon that is going to eclipse the i-porn boom of 96/97, total nonsense IMO.

And for the record I sell boats, really fucking big ones ;-)
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I was just pointing to those as an example. But you saying there will be no "SIGNIFICANT" screen size changes, in 5 years. That is funny.

People want small phones that are comfortable in their pocket and I don't see how in the 5 next years there is going to be some breakthrough that is going to make a screen expand significantly larger than the small mobile phone it is attached to. The technology may be developed but it is not going to be available at an end user affordable mass market scale.

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However no significant change is NOT possible. Have you seen the PSP screen?
Have you seen those cool Fujitsu 60" plasma screens? Both the 60" plasma and the 7" PSP are bigger than what the average Joe wants to have in his sweaty pocket all day.
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Here's something interesting, I got this from overture bids tool:


Searches for "mobile porn" in April 2005

Count Search Term
1042 mobile porn
454 free mobile porn
110 mobile porn video
86 mobile porn wallpaper
74 clip free mobile porn
56 free mobile porn video
53 clip mobile porn
33 logo message mobile picture porn
30 game mobile porn
29 mobile porn site
26 free mobile movie porn
25 downloads free mobile porn
25 mobile pic porn

Searches for "ringtones" April 2005

Count Search Term
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Kind of a contrast with the Internet in its early days where everyone was searching for porn isn't it?
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Are they big, USED boats by chance? It would explain a few things about the way you make an argument.. lots of meaningless numbers and garbage.
New boats only ;-)

And the only one who has stated any common sense arguments in this thread is me. After explaining why it is impossible to market mobile porn on an as large a scale as non adult content, and why it is impossible to even sell porn to 90% of the market, the best come back you guys can come up with is "sex sells" and "it did really well on the www and dvd so it must do well on mobile too"

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It's really not worth posting anymore in this thread, since your biggest revelation seems to be that the term "ringtone" is more important than "mobile porn", but nobody here needs a degree in boat sales to get that.
The biggest revelation is that besides from not being able to sell mobile porn to 90% of the market nobody is even interested in mobile porn, eventhough there is a very high interest in mobile content, even higher than in online porn.

Did you know there are more searches for the word "ringtone" than the word "porn"? I find that very significant indeed.

Count Search Term
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