Patriot Act - The Results

[PornoDoggy]

Bush pushes Patriot Act with numbers that are misleading

Dan Eggen, Julie Tate, Washington Post

Sunday, June 12, 2005

Washington -- On Thursday, President Bush stepped to a lectern at the Ohio State Highway Patrol Academy in Columbus to urge renewal of the USA Patriot Act and to boast of the government's success in prosecuting terrorists.

Flanked by Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, Bush said that "federal terrorism investigations have resulted in charges against more than 400 suspects, and more than half of those charged have been convicted."

Those statistics have been used repeatedly by Bush and other administration officials, including Gonzales and his predecessor, John Ashcroft, to characterize the government's efforts against terrorism.

But the numbers are misleading at best.

An analysis of the Justice Department's list of terrorism prosecutions by the Washington Post shows that 39 people -- not 200 -- have been convicted of crimes related to terrorism or national security.

Most of the others were convicted of relatively minor crimes such as making false statements and violating immigration law -- and had nothing to do with terrorism, the analysis shows. Overall, the median sentence was just 11 months.

Taken as a whole, the data indicate that identifying terrorists in the United States has been less successful than the government has often suggested. The statistics provide little support for the suggestion that authorities have discovered and prosecuted hundreds of terrorists. Except for a small number of well-known cases -- such as truck driver Iyman Faris, who sought to take down the Brooklyn Bridge -- few appear to have been involved in active plots against the United States.

Few terror ties

In fact, among all the people charged as a result of terrorism investigations in the three years after the Sept. 11 attacks, the Post found no demonstrated connection to terrorism or terrorist groups for 180 of them.

Just one in nine individuals on the list had an alleged connection to the al Qaeda terrorist network and only 14 people convicted of terrorism-related crimes -- including Faris and convicted Sept. 11 plotter Zacarias Moussaoui -- have clear links to the group. Many more cases involve Colombian drug cartels, supporters of the Palestinian cause, Rwandan war criminals or others with no apparent ties to al Qaeda or its leader, Osama bin Laden.

Many people appear to have been swept into U.S. counterterrorism investigations by chance -- through anonymous tips, suspicious circumstances or bad luck -- and have remained classified as terrorism defendants years after being cleared of connections to extremist groups.

For example, the prosecution of 20 men, most of them Iraqis, in a Pennsylvania truck-licensing scam accounts for about 10 percent of individuals convicted -- even though the entire group was publicly absolved of ties to terrorism in 2001.

Remainder http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c...MNGJND7G531.DTL

[Dravyk]

I remember when Clinton might say a slight exaggeration and the conservatives would call him a liar.

Yet Bush lies, and not small ones, giant ones, WMDs, arrest numbers, everything, so much that if he actually tells the truth, it would be easier to count. Note how the conservatives remain silent when it's liar Bush in office though.

Come down, Mike! Defend ol' Dubya!

[OldJeff]

News Flash....

Politicians LIE

So do preachers, priests, military recruiters, lawyers, doctors, etc, etc.

But I do think that politicians are the absolute worst

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by OldJeff@Jun 13 2005, 04:31 AM
News Flash....

Politicians LIE

So do preachers, priests, military recruiters, lawyers, doctors, etc, etc.

But I do think that politicians are the absolute worst

Don't forget about pornographers!

[Trev]

Originally posted by Mike AI+Jun 13 2005, 03:09 PM-->