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Originally posted by Hell Puppy@Mar 29 2005, 12:52 AM If an animal is suffering and has no hope of getting better, we're allowed to put it out of it's misery.
Why would anyone not do a human the same favor?
because nobody has the right to play god & judge whether another persons life is worth living ....
none of us can contemplate this situation. logic, sense and whats right or wrong have nothing to do with it when someone you love is being put to death because society has decided they are a burden.
if she doesn't have a right to live, then we should start killing everyone who doesn't make a valid contribution to society ...
who wants to be the boss of what's "valid"?
and for those who are getting *sick of hearing about it*, perhaps you would do well to put yourself in the position and decide how long you would want the world to 'put up with' talk of ending your life.
Originally posted by cj@Mar 29 2005, 01:52 AM
if she doesn't have a right to live, then we should start killing everyone who doesn't make a valid contribution to society ...
If my partner were to have this happen to her, she knows I would be putting her out of her misery, the same goes for me if I was in an accident, her finger would be on the button to terminate my life It's the quality of life that makes it worth living.
Originally posted by Newton@Mar 29 2005, 12:12 AM If my partner were to have this happen to her, she knows I would be putting her out of her misery, the same goes for me if I was in an accident, her finger would be on the button to terminate my life It's the quality of life that makes it worth living.
I absolutely agree. I've told my fiance and my parents, should I ever be in that situation, pull the plug. It is the function of our brains that make us who we are and I can't see the point in keeping my body alive, causing heartache and financial problems for my family, if I'm not even me any longer. If someone is in a persistive vegetative state for over a year, there is little chance for recovery and it is then considered a permanent vegetative state. I wouldn't want to go on that way.
The problem with our laws regarding this matter, is that mercy killing and assisted suicide are both illegal, so the doctors have no choice but to cut off nutrition. That's a horrible way to die. She should be given an injection and allowed to go peacefully without any sufferring.
Originally posted by Newton@Mar 29 2005, 12:12 AM If my partner were to have this happen to her, she knows I would be putting her out of her misery, the same goes for me if I was in an accident, her finger would be on the button to terminate my life It's the quality of life that makes it worth living.
Lets be frank...
You'd put any other animal that you cared for "out of its misery".
the sole reason why we can't with her is basically the old ethic of "every life is sacred"
Defining "life" is the bitch.
And Newton under your quality of life rules , Dravyk should be starved .
Her cerebral cortex is damaged to the point where most of it has been replaced by cerebral fluid. She CAN'T recover, no matter what kind of therapy she's given. Any "reactions" or "emotions" she displays, or things she "says" are purely reflexes. Put in that situation, I would see no point in continuing to live.
What this has turned into is one big photo op for conservative religious groups who are jockeying for position at the podium, as well as a misguided chest-thumping opportunity for politicians who saw a no-lose situation in "supporting life." None of these people really give two shits about Terri Schiavo, they're just in it for themselves. Her parents don't have a clue that they're just being used as tools.
I can understand the religious wackjobs like Randall Terry getting in on this, it's a high-profile case which gives them a great opportunity to spout off. The political involvement is what really cracks me up. Another case of conservatives who will wholeheartedly support state's rights... except for when it's a good political opportunity to NOT support them. On the other side, you have the wussy liberals who aren't willing to grow a pair and take what might be an unpopular stance.
Polls everywhere, even from conservative outlets, are showing majority support for the husband (and why wouldn't they -- 26 court cases in his favor kinda say something). So we have a religious MINORITY who are just flexing their muscles so as to APPEAR to be a majority.
I hope they don't achieve a true political majority. I'd rather live in a country ruled by logic than by mythology and fear. That's just my opinion, I COULD be wrong... but I seriously doubt it.
Wow I cannot beleive that Jesse Jackson waited this long to start strutting in front of all the cameras.
Now she can die in peace!
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Originally posted by Mike AI@Mar 29 2005, 11:36 AM Wow I cannot beleive that Jesse Jackson waited this long to start strutting in front of all the cameras.
Now she can die in peace!
i think she will rest in peace once the issue has lost its political value
Originally posted by Almighty Colin@Mar 30 2005, 06:28 AM To be honest, I haven't been following this story much. I don't think removing the feeding tube is right either way. Starving someone to death???
Is she still in the state she was in in the 2001 video that is out on the net? If so, then I would say NO WAY. She should be kept alive.
yea this is the first thread i've commented on it myself. have read alot of idiots opinions and whatnot and i'm sick of hearing about it since i know what i think and what most people like me think, but, since it's a big topic, of course i'm going to have an opinion about it and say something.
is she still like she is in that video? no, thankfully she's worse from what i know, that video is worse than any of those beheading videos from iraq i've seen. "blaahhhhhhhh - screaming in agony"
"can you look this way??"
stares ahead and jammers around like an idiot.
"can you say momm----aaaa??" (repeated 20 times)
sits drools. yells out a little bit.
jeez, does she do kids parties? we should keep her alive maybe, i'd put one of her in my dining room, geat conversation piece.
03-28-2005
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