Steve Goldman

[Nickatilynx]

well , does anyone?



Cause I thnk he is back in the game.......

http://web.archive.org/web/20040207015353/...tevegoldman.htm




Steve Goldman you owe people: $85,455.94

STEVE GOLDMAN IS A SCAMMER
The information on this page was obtained from various adult BBS boards.The author of this page takes no responsibility of the claims made herein against Steve Goldman. I simply present some of the numerous accusations made against this individual that are publicly available to anyone. So you can make whatever determination you choose from the available evidence.

If you don't want to read this long page , just watch this short movie

http://web.archive.org/web/20040207015353/...e.php?id=607246


How is Steve Goldman a scammer?
Steve Goldman would start up an exit (or sponsor) program, run it for 2 or 3 months, then shut it down. During this 2 or 3 month period, he would pay only on a small amount of webmasters in his program. This means, the majority of webmasters in his program were left out in the cold (In some cases, some of these guys RELIED on the money owed for desperate situations). Steve Goldman did not care who he ripped off, or how much he ripped people off for! Some of the webmasters not paid were owed thousands of dollars!


How this scammer avoided payments:

Payment was never mailed out. (He would claim that payments were sent, and would keep this lie going for several weeks)
Steve would knowingly send out checks which were returned as NSF. (This is just fucking cheap)
He would just shut his program down and disappear.


Honest guys ripped off by this scammer:
I will try to assemble a complete list of people who did not recieve money owed to them by Steve Goldman. If he cheated you, please post the details here with what he owed you for (one of his exit programs/design work/etc) and the amount that he owed you.

Boobsman ($7200) - Not paid for exit traffic (trafalgarmarketing.com)
Dravyk ($3000) - Not paid for banner advertising (trafalgarmarketing.com)

Demon Wolfe ($900) - Not paid for traffic (trafalgarmarketing.com)

Alvaro ($800) - Not paid for exit traffic. (trafalgarmarketing.com)

Vininvidicum ($800) - Not paid for exit traffic from bizarresource.com (trafalgarmarketing.com)

Mike ($350) - Not paid for design work. (trafalgarmarketing.com) update, $300 paid

Slim ($110) - Not paid for exit traffic from skimpythongs (trafalgarmarketing.com)
Hvidlogspusher ($100) - Not paid for exit traffic (trafalgarmarketing.com)

Tim(AWI) ($???) - Not paid for ?. (?)

TwinTone ($393.94) - Not paid for exit traffic. (sellyourhits.com)

Ace ($2000) - Not paid for exit traffic. (garbagetraffic.com)
rEyes ($1500) - Not paid for ?. (?)

Blackrose ($1700) - Not paid for exit traffic. (keelebayltd.com)

WETDOG ($2000) - Not paid for ?. (?)

Tero ($19,000) - Not paid for ?. (?)

smut16 ($250) - Not paid for popuptraffic. (?)

spunky1 ($80) - Not paid for blind link (trafalgarmarketing.com)

Undutchable ($400) - Not paid for ?. (?)

Batman ($18,000) - Not paid for ?. (?)

snow ($280) - Not paid for ?. (?)

JJJ ($23,000) - Not paid for exit traffic. (keelebayltd.com)

LisaMarie ($1392) - Not paid for exit traffic. (keelebayltd.com)

cracker ($500) - Not paid for exit traffic. (keelebayltd.com)

Donger ($2000) - Not paid for exit traffic. (?)

Total amount of money lost: $85,455.94 (More to come...)

If your name is above and it embarrasses you post here The Fuck Steve Goldman BBS that you want it removed. If your name is not above and Steve has ripped you off, be a man and let me know about it here The Fuck Steve Goldman BBS so I can add it. Don't be another spineless victim. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.


Domains owned by this scammer:

I'm sure Steve has owned several other domains, so you if know any more, please let me know them.

trafalgarmarketing.com - IP: 216.46.27.82

trafalgarmarketingltd.com - IP: 216.46.27.83

freenetpresence.com - IP: 216.46.27.87

garbagetraffic.com - IP: 216.46.27.87

sellyourhits.com - 216.46.27.92

POSSIBLE: bimbocash.com - IP: 216.46.27.95

keelebayltd.com - IP: 216.46.27.103

sellyourtraffic.com - No longer owned by Steve.

sellustraffic.com - No longer owned by Steve.

sellushits.com - No longer owned by Steve.

POSSIBLE: virgintime.com - No longer owned by Steve.

Have you done business with this scammer?
So, you may be lucky enough to have never done business with somebody named Steve Goldman, but have you done business with any of his aliases? If you know more please post what information you have here The Fuck Steve Goldman BBS
Steve Goldman - Believed to be the real name of this cheater

Steve Goldman - The alias used by Steve while running http://www.trafalgarmarketing.com

Steve Goobeldy - The alias used by Steve while running http://www.garbagetraffic.com (Feb. 2000 - Apr. 2000)

George Masters - The alias used by Steve while running http://www.keelebayltd.com (Apr. 2000 - Jun. 2000)

Simon Masters - The alias used by Steve while running http://www.sellyourtraffic.com (Aug. 2000 - Dec. 2000)

Simon Masters - The alias used by Steve while running http://www.sellyourhits.com

syt - The nickname used by Steve while running http://www.sellushits.com

syt - The nickname used by Steve while running http://www.sellustraffic.com

Jack Morten - This may or may not be an alias. Be your own judge by viewing the threads below.


Where this information was obtained:

[Adult Site Traffic]

Nice work..

I know some people who'll definately be interrested in this find. I know I am..

AST

[JoesHO]

This guy sounds like total bad news...!!!!

[Nickatilynx]

Oh he is , look at the list of people he ripped off in a previous incarnation.

It includes Dravyk.

And I am being told he is back in business again.

New name etc.


Just waiting for one or two more bits of the puzzle...........



Steve Goldman also ran a couple of small webmaster boards I think..

Anyone with anymore info please post...

[Lee]

Goldman / Trafalgar Marketing have offices in central london (alledgedly) although, the address he gave me several years ago was actually a PO box in, strangely enough, Trafalgar Square.

I beleive they also have a Canadian mailing address which is where i actually DID get paid from for an ad spot they took out.

[going to see if i still have the invoice info in our database....]

[Lee]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Jan 30 2005, 07:14 PM
Steve Goldman also ran a couple of small webmaster boards I think..

Yep he did.

I beleive it was called something like trafalgarboard.com or some such nonsense.

[Lee]

Originally posted by Lee@Jan 30 2005, 07:40 PM
[going to see if i still have the invoice info in our database....]

Trafalgar New Wave - That was the company on the invoice we have if anyone needs the company name

[Nickatilynx]

Can you remember his boards?

Were they:

smacke.com

and

newwaveconcepts.com

and was he known as "Dave" there?

[Dravyk]

Everything you wanted to know about Steve Goldman but were too naucous to ask .... complete with links to many more threads on several different boards ...

All together it's a long but eye-opening read. He makes Rick Sommers (of days long gone by) look like a clumsy newbie thief. Goldman specializes in ripping off webmasters and companies. He has offices in Canada and in England and lives in Montreal -- last I heard.

http://www.netpond.com/showthread.php?thre...20&pagenumber=1

[Lisa]

I used to know him (note the past tense)...many years ago. AD did the design for virgintime.com (yes he did used to own it).

I have no idea where or what he is now, but I've heard most of the stories and have no doubt they are true, on the complainants part.

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by Dravyk@Jan 30 2005, 09:22 PM
He has offices in Canada and in England and lives in Montreal -- last I heard.

Ain't that interesting.

[Mike AI]

Ripping off people in this biz t othe tune of $86k is big news??

Come now, we have people doing more then that in a few months, and are hailed as industry leaders.

People have done much more damage to this industry, directly and indirectly for years - and are NEVER called out - they are hailed as "players".

Remember Acacia? While crippled, they are still around. Who settled and helped them?

What about billing companies that are over 3 weeks float on payments, yet donate your money to tsunami victems and blow money on extragent lifestyles?

We are all sheep being sheered.... funny thing is most don't realize who is using the biggest clippers!

[Dravyk]

Mike, while your points do have some validity, I must admit ... there are many differences with Goldman and the others

The others, whether it's shave, or whatever, has for the most part been speculative ... that is, heresay, not proved ... even if there were some that "we all know about" ... it's still in the realm of speculation as there's no solid proof (except for the several moronic companies that had unprotected systems, their shaving admin screens get plastered across GFY and they disapper) ... but none of them were "players" to begin with.

With Goldman, it's out and out fraud ... and each new venture and new alias is set up for one reason and one only, to screw webmasters. Even the sponsors and others you mention, Mike, didn't derive 100% of their income from fraud and shaving ... hence the name "shave" as in "off the top". Goldman does it out and out for that reason only.

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Jan 30 2005, 09:37 PM
Ripping off people in this biz t othe tune of $86k is big news??

Come now, we have people doing more then that in a few months, and are hailed as industry leaders.

People have done much more damage to this industry, directly and indirectly for years - and are NEVER called out - they are hailed as "players".

Remember Acacia? While crippled, they are still around. Who settled and helped them?

What about billing companies that are over 3 weeks float on payments, yet donate your money to tsunami victems and blow money on extragent lifestyles?

We are all sheep being sheered.... funny thing is most don't realize who is using the biggest clippers!

Get your own thread on those!!! LOL

;-)))

Let me go after one person at a time for Christ sake!!


;-))

[Dravyk]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx+Jan 31 2005, 12:37 AM-->