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I know of a couple and have been following DRM for 2-3 years. But I'm sure I've overlooked some newcomers and maybe a few that have been around a while.
Who has good flexible solutions...preferably that include an interface to a iPSP for the backend processing?
CCBill / Cavecreek one would imagine have that type of setup in place
I also vaguely recall a conversation i had with Vooman at last years Florida show where he said the Nat Net DRM solution is able to be used as a stand alone solution.
Interestingly enough...
I recently read something about DRM being cracked successfully (off to find the link to that info now).
Isnīt that the same Freeme.exe, which MS have a fix for?
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Microsoft has evaluated the Freeme.exe software posted October 19, 2001 on The Register Web site, and has verified that for users who have purchased or licensed content that is protected by Microsoft Windows Media Digital Rights Management version 7 (including 7.1), the Freeme software can be applied to breach the Digital Rights Management (DRM) protection of the content. It is important to note that this breach does not pose any privacy threat to users personal information on their computers. Also, this breach only affects content protected with Windows Media Rights Manager version 7 Software Development Kit (SDK), not version 1.
Microsoft has also verified that this breach is predicated upon obtaining a valid license, which means you cannot circumvent the security for content that has not been licensed or purchased by a user, because if content is protected with Microsoft Windows Media DRM, the user acquires the license separately from the content.
Microsoft takes any DRM breach very seriously. Ensuring that our products remain secure from hackers remains a top priority, now and in the future. Because any DRM system can potentially be compromised, Microsoft designed the Windows Media DRM system to support dynamic updates, should a security compromise like this occur. This update mechanism, referred to as security renewal, does not require a new release of the Windows Media Player or the Windows Media Format Software Development Kit.
Microsoft has released the fix for the Freeme software and we have included additional security to make it more difficult for future attackers to leverage information already published.
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Rolo, "Beale Screamer" is the guy who originally cracked DRM in 2001. I haven't seen this information on any other drm news sites, so it may be a link to an old article... I'll keep my eyes open...
We offer desktop software for DRM encryption, so you can always maintain control of your content...
Originally posted by Hell Puppy@Jan 19 2005, 12:25 AM I know of a couple and have been following DRM for 2-3 years. But I'm sure I've overlooked some newcomers and maybe a few that have been around a while.
Who has good flexible solutions...preferably that include an interface to a iPSP for the backend processing?
DRM Networks is the "in house" solution for CCBill and is fully integrated and ready to go if you have a CCBill account.
Our is a very feaure rich solution and is built for very large scale deployment.
Please feel free to contact me or you CCBill rep for additional information.
Originally posted by VooMan@Jan 19 2005, 08:50 AM Rolo, "Beale Screamer" is the guy who originally cracked DRM in 2001. I haven't seen this information on any other drm news sites, so it may be a link to an old article... I'll keep my eyes open...
We offer desktop software for DRM encryption, so you can always maintain control of your content...
How much is the software vooman, and where would one go to get it ?
Originally posted by Dravyk@Jan 19 2005, 11:07 AM PlayaDRM looks good http://www.playadrm.com
Yeah real good. We are still waiting in the conference room downtown for that cocksucker to call us back with all of our clients here for that implementaiton confernce call.
Embarassment, loose of huge monies and then find the bastard hanging out on Max Cash Live instead of on a conference call...calls ignored...voice mail ignored.
You want to get me really started on this Ill go fire up my partners Dirty Doug and Cnote..... I can sum it up with one word
SNORT !!!!
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Interesting, I've never had anyone complain about working with Tucker when I suggested they do.
Something doesn't sound quite right in this whole story.
And if CNote is Chris Levy that you're referring to, then there's definitely a mix-up, since he's never had anything to do with Tuckers solution as far as I know.
Originally posted by *KK*@Jan 19 2005, 03:56 PM Interesting, I've never had anyone complain about working with Tucker when I suggested they do.
Something doesn't sound quite right in this whole story.
And if CNote is Chris Levy that you're referring to, then there's definitely a mix-up, since he's never had anything to do with Tuckers solution as far as I know.
Cnote is Charles Lynch.
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We are putting the bastards of this world on notice; greed and corruption will always be met with "a voice made of ink and rage."
"Never try and be like anyone else" - Hunter S. Thompson
"The truth is the truth no matter how you try and package a lie" - Shellee Hale
CNOTE is also StreamOG which is also BuyDRM which is also a former founder of DRMNetworks and the creator of Swap Bucks.
Sir, DO NOT EVER CONFUSE THIS NEXT LINE
Christopher Levy, aka Chris Levy, aka StreamOG, aka CNOTE has nothing, has never had and will never have ANYTHING to do with my company.
Prior to making future defamatory statements, it my hope that you will conduct proper due diligence to prevent the innocent from looking guilty.
At the next Industry Event, I would like to buy you a drink and spend a few minutes talking face to face so that you will learn who I am and not repeat this performance.
Check your notes for 230 Peachtree Street Suite 2200 Atlanta Georgia
Lynch International. Charles Lynch, Doug Kreet and myself.
Youll have to go back at least 2 years ago.
To say the experience was unpleasant is an understatement.
You made an phone appointment to get this rollling started and we flew in 2 sets of clients to get the ball rolling. The date of the conference call you didnt call nor answer my phone calls or my ICQ or the email nor would Oystien.
So yeah a year ago the deal was long dead.
I hope you resolved your transition problems.
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We are putting the bastards of this world on notice; greed and corruption will always be met with "a voice made of ink and rage."
"Never try and be like anyone else" - Hunter S. Thompson
"The truth is the truth no matter how you try and package a lie" - Shellee Hale
All of the DRM solutions price themselves on licenses if nothing else.
I'm under the assumption that a license isn't delivered and charged until the transaction is completed (whatever it may be) and the license to actually play the video is delivered back to the user.
In other words, we do not get dinged for a license transaction everytime someone attempts to play the video and hits the form without ever completing it?
Is my assumption correct?
Otherwise getting one of these videos loose in the wild could really suck...heh. Whereas this should normally be a very positive thing with DRM as there is no play if no pay.
As gonzo said the whole upload/download is an issue, when you have hundreds to thousands of GBs of content.
More DRM providers should have downloable packing software - that would really make it simple for all paysites to start using it, and create extra revenue + stop content theft/sharing.
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Originally posted by gonzo@Jan 19 2005, 03:00 PM Check your notes for 230 Peachtree Street Suite 2200 Atlanta Georgia
Lynch International. Charles Lynch, Doug Kreet and myself.
Youll have to go back at least 2 years ago.
To say the experience was unpleasant is an understatement.
You made an phone appointment to get this rollling started and we flew in 2 sets of clients to get the ball rolling. The date of the conference call you didnt call nor answer my phone calls or my ICQ or the email nor would Oystien.
So yeah a year ago the deal was long dead.
I hope you resolved your transition problems.
Sorry I dont recall. BTW PlayaDRM was launched after Phoenix Forum last year so its only about a year old.
You are correct. A license is not issued until the video is paid for, so you won't get dinged for people attempting to play your content if they haven't bought it...
Originally posted by *KK*@Jan 19 2005, 10:39 PM HP, I'm sure we'll get Tucker back here to clarify pricing among other questions --
I always enjoyed talking with Tucker, he is a very smart guy and a total professional from all I know about him. As well as very informed
I hope to see him around here much more often, as we all could definatly benifite from his knowledge on Traffic as well.
( I dont know the other guy mentioned, I hope Gonzo has them mixed up, as I am sure he has had the expereience he tells us about too with whomever it was as gonzo only speaks what he believes to be TRUE always) ( I to do think it is someone other than tucker just from what I know of tucker )
cause like I said, Tucker has always ben a classy guy in my book ( my two cents)
Tucker can you please explain how your DRM solution works for people simple minded like me to understand as well?
Originally posted by VooMan@Jan 20 2005, 09:07 AM Thanks for the kind words Nick. Sweet T is a class act, and that's why I've been with NatNet for such a long time...
Sorry Vooman.
You too , even though we have never met etc , are known to me and your length of time with Natnet.
My apologies.
The fact that you are marketing the product is enough for me to know it is first class product.
Technical question for any and all DRM providers ...
When the file is "packaged" with the licensing technology -- aka the WMV file modified -- does that in any way prevent other software or scripts from a) making a thumb from a screen cap via automated software or scripts or server modules or in any other way alter the header or anything such that other programs/scripts can no longer recognize, read the file in terms of site publishing?
Just something I've wondered for a while now and which no one's FAQs address.
Originally posted by gonzo@Jan 19 2005, 03:00 PM Check your notes for 230 Peachtree Street Suite 2200 Atlanta Georgia
Lynch International. Charles Lynch, Doug Kreet and myself.
Youll have to go back at least 2 years ago.
To say the experience was unpleasant is an understatement.
You made an phone appointment to get this rollling started and we flew in 2 sets of clients to get the ball rolling. The date of the conference call you didnt call nor answer my phone calls or my ICQ or the email nor would Oystien.
So yeah a year ago the deal was long dead.
I hope you resolved your transition problems.
Tucker,
If you are buying drinks at the next industry event, I am due about 250 thousand of them. Gonzo is correct that you were supposed to meet at 230 Peachtree, Atlanta. We (you, Gonzo and I) even spoke on the phone two weeks prior.
Perhaps you suffer from a disorder where someone forgets shit....what is that called again....ah hell, it will come back to me shortly
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