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Old 01-11-2005   #1
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So...what happens if DannyWebmaster breaks the rules for a day and he gets found out by the feds before we find out and term him and we're responsible? Like KK said, when that happens, you will see affiliate programs go bye bye.
Or, what if JoeWebmaster gets pissed off at a sponsor and spams the sponsor using DannyWebmaster's affiliate code?
The feds crack down on the sponsor, who knows nothing about it, the feds and the sponsor crack down on DannyWebmaster, who also knows nothing about it, and the T.O.S. couldn't do a thing to stop it. Even the sponsor keeping so close an eye on DannyWebmaster that they're practically handing him toilet paper when he's done shitting couldn't do a thing to stop it.
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except that I've never received anything in my mailbox that says CUM GARGLING FUCK BAG ....

the day you do, your argument has weight
Hehe - we used to send those out to the owner of record for every number that called one of our 900 numbers. When little Johnny visits Granny and calls a porn site and she gets a porn magazine......

Never got in a lick of trouble for it either. The consumer had to fill out a form to stop it and I guess if we continued after that we would have been in shit, but sending it out in the first place is A-OK as far as the USPS is concerned.
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every time this spam argument comes up, i walk down to my mailbox, pull out a bunch of catalogues, flyers and note cards, scratch my head, and throw them in the trash and wonder....if they make the electronic stuff illegal, why dont they start with the postal system... then i remember, oh yeah, its the UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE... they make money off of it.

so the answer is, if the Federal government cannot make money off of it, they want to shut it down until such time that they can figure out a way to charge for it, then they will encourage it.

The difference is you have to pay to send each piece of postal mail.

If it were free, like email is, you can bet we'd all have to have mailboxes the size of 55 gallon drums or larger. And we wouldn't be able to find our copy of TV Guide because it was buried underneath thousands of offers for dick pills and subscription offers to Nuns 'n Nazis.

...most of which would be postmarked Vancouver.
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The difference is you have to pay to send each piece of postal mail.
The store that has my postal mailbox has a huge trash can sitting right next to the boxes so that when you get junk mail you can toss it right in there and not even have to deal with taking it home. They shred it a few times and sell it as packing material.

Anyone got a URL where I can find out more about this FTC situation?
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Anyone got a URL where I can find out more about this FTC situation?
http://ftc.gov/opa/2005/01/globalnetsolutions.htm

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hey keep Dannywebmaster out of your discussions, he's just a small time guy trying to make enough money to buy his sweetie some goodies

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hey keep Dannywebmaster out of your discussions, he's just a small time guy trying to make enough money to buy his sweetie some goodies

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LOL

LeeNoga, just so you know ... I'm not picking on you - I have more skeletons in my closet than you do I'm sure!!!! LOL

I just hate when people don't take responsibility for their actions ... & I guess having had a couple of really bad years and paying for my mistakes, I'm just sick of hearing how its not possible to come out the other side.

Because it is. And the other side can be brighter ;-)
Amen! That's for damn sure.

I barely even doing adult any more but I still have adult sites and an interest in all of this. Plus, I enjoy Oprano and its people.

No TOS, laws, rules or anything else is going to protect you from harassment. If the law or government wants to impose on you they will. Trust me on that. There are lots of people who went broke fighting decency lawsuits based on moral standards…. Years later and no money they win? I don’t think so.

I’m not surprised by any of this really. It’s going to get worse and I’m truly surprised at the ones who didn’t start shifting sails a long time ago when shit started hitting the fan. If you’ve been in business, especially the adult biz you watch the transitions and you know that it will hit absolute bottom before it changes into a new horizon. I’d simply ride the tides, not invest, and do business carefully and with a watchful eye. Things are bound to change.

Call it Tam’s prediction but this Bush ride is going to get really scary. You don’t even know the half of it. On top of that the earth is changing and your ass might be under water soon so sell everything, reduce your overhead and start living your dreams! I’m building a commune out here on my land (that will probably go under water too) so if you run out of money just come pitch your tent. I’ll feed you but I’ll also make you work harder then you ever have! Lol
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You forgot to mention how this could be avoided by a Zip Code list...
Hahahaha, I don't sell them.

And actually, if they want you that badly, they'll just keep calling to place the order until they get someone who fucks up and does it. But then again, that's a different story from the same time frame.
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