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Old 10-20-2004   #1
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Up 3-0 in 7 game series, to lose 4 in a row.

Amazing. Never been done before.

I will be pulling for who ever wins National League series....

Steinbrener is going to blow a gasket tonight. All of his big $$ guys have done nothing past 4 games.
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Couldn't have happened to a nicer buncha cocksuckers ...

I'm just hoping the Cardinals can beat the Colt 45s one more time, although a 40-year repeat of the '64 World Series would have been interesting.

Swat the killer B's ...
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While a lot can be said about the Yankees choking, I think the Red Sox deserve praise for sticking in there and not giving up.....Shilling was out there with his tedon stapled to his ankle last night, then tonight Lowe, who is probably in his last season with the Red Sox pitches a 6 inning/1 hit gem

I was at the bowling alley when Sierra grounded out to second and for a few minutes the cheers of everyone watching on the tv screens drowned out the sounds of pins crashing...it was amazing.
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Yes it was by far the biggest choke ever.

But for the next half of a decade it might be the best thing for the Yankees
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I have been a huge sox fan since I was 5 years old. I certainly view this as the greatest comback ever.

I am pulling for Houston as Clemens has been my favorite player for the last 20 years (Even as a Yankee).

Houston vs. Sox
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Boston did a wonderful job of sticking in and not giving up. It is very admirable.

Could be their year....
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Yes it was by far the biggest choke ever.

But for the next half of a decade it might be the best thing for the Yankees
Very true. The Yankees have gotten a little too used to winning. This might be just what they need to fire them up! Listen to the Boston fans & team in their interviews... losing to the Yanks got them focused - they truly worked hard to overcome this year and look where it got them. As a Yankee fan I can say that the Sox deserved to win this one - they earned it.

Hub still swears the Yanks were paid off to lose... lol I've been a fan my whole life and I think that's just a TAD far-fetched. I still say they just got used to winning, expected the win and never ever considered that Boston would cause such an upset in game 7. An MLB tortoise/hare tale if I ever heard one.

Oh well.... there's always next year!
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The Yankees have gotten a little too used to winning. This might be just what they need to fire them up
Why do they need to be "fired up"? They buy their success. I believe they have 16 players who have made the all star team at one time or another. That costs a lotta dough. I'd like to see a salary cap in baseball.

Red Sox are no joke. 98 wins.
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The only way I could agree with a salary cap is IF owners are required to put a huge percentage of the rev share they receive back into the team instead of their pockets as many of them do now.

Normally I am against any type of Salary cap - it is 100% against capitalism.

Maybe we should place Salary caps on business owners - sorry you are only allowed to make X dollars a year, the rest you have to give to your competition.
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http://www.forbes.com/free_forbes/20...066tab_20.html

I see 50 million in profit for the Reds

http://www.forbes.com/free_forbes/20.../066tab_2.html

Yankees profit is half that.

When owners start to pocket less money then it is time to talk cap
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The only way I could agree with a salary cap is IF owners are required to put a huge percentage of the rev share they receive back into the team instead of their pockets as many of them do now.

Normally I am against any type of Salary cap - it is 100% against capitalism.

Maybe we should place Salary caps on business owners - sorry you are only allowed to make X dollars a year, the rest you have to give to your competition.
It's not just a business though. It's also a game. Games have rules. Some of them have rules to keep the game competitive. Like in the NFL, the team with the worst record gets the first draft pick. Using the rules of unbridled capitalism in the NFL would mean no draft. Just let teams sign whomever they can sign.
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I was so happy to watch the Yankees choke.

If a team ever deserved to lose, it's the Yankees. Just goes to show, money doesn't buy you the championship. The players still have to win it.

I'd love to see Boston win the series and break the curse.
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As a Yankee fan, I truly hate how everyone hates the fucking Yankees. What the fuck did we do to everyone else -- win? If you don't follow baseball during the regular year, and find yourself hating on the Yankees - then congratulations, you are on the bullshit bandwagon.

If your team is in the NL, you have no reason to complain about the Yankees. They have nothing to do with your shitty team not making the playoffs or World Series.

I've never seen more people so happy that a team loses -- some people are so happy, its like their own team had won. The Yankees haven't won in a while now, no matter what - money does not buy World Series - I don't know who came up with that logic in the first place. Steinbrenner is committed to putting the best baseball team out there, more owners should be like him. If the owners don't have the money, its cause the fans suck and don't show up to games, buy merchandise, and aren't particularly too interested in their own team. Of course these are the same fans so happy that the Yankees lose. There is no unfair advantage. Steinbrenner has not cheated his way to the top - he got there by being smart, and he has fan support. When he came out with the YES network, people did not complain that TV prices went up. In fact, one year Cablevision refused to cut a deal with him, everyone switched to DirecTV, paid more money, never complained, and Cablevision was forced to cut a deal with him. Explain why no other team has done this -- Cause their fans don't care half as much as Yankees fans.

Here's a clue: get used to not seeing the Yankees win, no team in any sport can dominate so much as to win championships 10 years in a row. We took 4 out of 5, made a nice run -we had little player turnover. Name a team in pro sports thats taken 8 out of 10. We are simply good year after year. Get used to us being good. Get used to the fact we arent going to win the Series year after year, but will do our best to win it every year.
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