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I wouldn't poke my nose in Brad's affairs if he wasn't using old tactic of beating his own drum when things are bad....
they ARE bad on the most business froents of his, which explain his upbeat posts about his persona...poor Yorik,
I see thru him without Xray, he is that transparent
Originally posted by The Hammer@Jul 3 2004, 09:01 PM Ya, but SIC is still converting better than Lightspeed and Adult.com so go figure. I bet Lens is a bit disappointed to be in last place too.
And WTF, apparently they're not even using PureCash. What's up with that?
I have been in touch with them, PureCash should be up in July's report!
So far this month we are convertin 1 in 408 overall - including all sites. I think this is pretty damn amazing!!
I have been trying to spread the word.
PureCash also pays out $35 per $2.95 trial on single girls sites ( we created the niche in 1996) whereas other people only pay 60% rev share and don't retain for shit!
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he may be using raw stats to post his results... and some sponsors only show uniques.. some being second page.. some being join page..
again.. i do not know how he tracks his stats... and if he is comparing apples and oranges...
everyone has different traffic... just b/c one company does not have a desirable conversion rate does not mean we are having any problems
But I thank you for your concern... I hope you find time to spend with your families.. this weekend.. its good for the soul
ps.. if Marcus reads this board.. I would love to talk to him about the sites he is promoting.. as he converted as good as 1:87 and as bad as 1:1400... but some of the sites he promotes could be adjusted for more desirable results... not a guarantee.. but i'm willing to offer help
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Weasel, how come everyone I talk to says the same thing Serge is saying.... I have heard how bad siccash converts at least three times this week alone..LOL
Originally posted by JoesHO1@Jul 3 2004, 07:40 PM Weasel, how come everyone I talk to says the same thing Serge is saying.... I have heard how bad siccash converts at least three times this week alone..LOL
Joe.. I will again.... say what I just said... now please keep up... I hate repeating myself for the slow learners
SICCash is not having any problems...
SICCash converts just fine.... been steady at 1:300-1:400 for the last year.... overall
Please come up with your own battles... as jumping on a bandwagon that you really know nothing about... only shows your weak attempt to try to suck someones dick for some notoriety...
I have nothing against you.. but I do pretty much run SICCash...and make sure that it continues to be profitable...and that our webmasters are also doing well... if you knew how a program works.. you would understand that if the webmasters are not making money... the program will not make money... if you read up.... someone posted greenguyandjims thread... and GG actually mentioned exactly what I was reffering too... not all sponsors count uniques and raws the same.. we show BOTH... so comparing apples to oranges is not always as easy as it appears...
peace
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Originally posted by gregtx@Jul 4 2004, 01:28 PM interesting ...
I just pulled Marcus B's account...
1:472 overall .. on conversions to uniques...
he may be using raw stats to post his results... and some sponsors only show uniques.. some being second page.. some being join page..
again.. i do not know how he tracks his stats... and if he is comparing apples and oranges...
everyone has different traffic... just b/c one company does not have a desirable conversion rate does not mean we are having any problems
But I thank you for your concern... I hope you find time to spend with your families.. this weekend.. its good for the soul
ps.. if Marcus reads this board.. I would love to talk to him about the sites he is promoting.. as he converted as good as 1:87 and as bad as 1:1400... but some of the sites he promotes could be adjusted for more desirable results... not a guarantee.. but i'm willing to offer help
I've seen you do this before Gregtx.... answer an affiliate complaint by posting your analysis of their account.
Very wrong imho.. but even if you think not... Still not very classy :\
Originally posted by Opti@Jul 4 2004, 05:01 AM
I've seen you do this before Gregtx.... answer an affiliate complaint by posting your analysis of their account.
Very wrong imho.. but even if you think not... Still not very classy :\
Opti,
people with class can not work for weasel who can't even define himself what class is
;-))
I know this guy had a GFY thread and said he didn't have time to deal with figuring out the actual # of uniques that he sent to a program so he just went with the sponsor's count.
So, those numbers are pretty meaningless taken by themselves.
Greg has one of the toughest jobs in the busines, and handles it like a pro.
Greg is a very classy person! Even for a puerto rican!
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Originally posted by gregtx@Jul 5 2004, 12:46 AM Opti, if someone wants to post their stats and results of a company on a public forum... then I see nothing wrong with answering their post on a public forum.
If that person chooses to email or icq me, I will answer their question there...
as I did not even know this person.. .nor is it even my account, but I took a proactive choice to resolve any questions or problems...
if that is being unclassy.. i'm unclassy..
if working for Brad is unclassy, i'm unclassy... its amazing to see the childish behavoir of some people to not like me b/c of where I work...
Monk...
Thank you for pointing out that obivous error in those results... as appearanlty i'm just classless for pointnig out the same thing...
this will be my last post at this board... thanks for the past times. it used to be enjoyable
Ok, don't run away, you're a class act!! ... but It does rub me up the wrong way to see you using that private information as it suits you... I wasn't just trying to be bitchy at the boss btw. You started to do a similar public job on me once and I really didn't like it.. that's where the issue came from, nothing to do with Brad. ;-)
Originally posted by BradShaw@Jul 4 2004, 02:37 PM Greg has an easy job. I put him and my other employees in the positions to succeed in real business. Not kids playing in the sand box.
Always good to read things like this as well. Someone likes my old program.
oh puhleeze! I can buy this tongue cheap and he'll write about my program I don't even have anything I want,
I trust the voice of the people much more than hired writers
;-)))
pull this wool over your morons,
bullshit doesn't fly on Oprano
Sponsor provided stats mean absolutely nothing. You cant just dismiss someone who says you convert 1:2000 by saying "well our system shows 1:500". If the person providing the stats is counting clicks himself and counting all sponsors he's comparing by the same method then it is a valid comparison.
If he's counting consistently using a counter, his own stats program, phpAds or whatever and he shows it takes 2000 clicks to get a sale on one program and 1000 clicks to get a sale on another. Well, the latter converts twice as good as the former. Period.
You're in the no spin zone, go try the jedi mind tricks elsewhere. Only numbers that count here are the ones written beside the "$" on the check.
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jul 4 2004, 08:37 PM Joe ... just out of curiousity, what is your personal experience with Brad and with SIC Cash?
I went to introduce myself to Brad once, and he would not even look in my eyes, or shake my hand. I have paid attention to who has done what to whom in the industry, adn find that I will never look to shake anything from brad again.
percieved success or failure does not create a measure of ones worth, sometimes you just need to look into the windows of their soul to know what they are.
I have never/ or never will do anything to promote siccash, I would clean toilets first for minimum wage, and I believe that in the long run I would make more money, and never have to worry about getting screwed out of my hard work!
For the record, my only impression of Brad has been from the boards. SIC is one of the sponsors I promote, and while certainly not the best, it has converted about average for me. Keep in mind, however, that I operate on traffic levels that most of Oprano would sneer at.
It's pretty unusual for me to even post in a thread like this - I read 'em and take in the information, but I try not to shoot my mouth off on something I don't know anything about. There are people in this thread who's opinions I respect, and there are others who, well, have their own axes to grind. And then ...
...well, I guess greg was right.
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Nice to meet you all! This is my first post on this board as I noticed the thread about my stats in my log.
Let me start by saying that SicCash has started the month off strong. We're only 5 days into it, but I'm hoping the trend continues.
The stats that I show are taken from StatsRemote. Everyone knows that it counts both raw and unique, and I simply choose to display the unique stats. Some sponsors only show second page unique, some first page. SicCash shows first page. I plan to incorporate a way of showing which sponsors use which method for better analysis of the stats. Please note that I do show previous month's results and from that, you can obviously see the substantial drop in conversions for SicCash. That is why I posted a note about it and that is why I took some of the traffic away. I do things very methodically and it has worked very well for me.
I must say that I'm not thrilled with having a sponsor pull stats about my account and post them on a public forum. I can understand if I were making up lies about the program and they wanted to dispute those lies, however, just posting information to back up their general claim of the program's stability is a bad move.
I would glady welcome a review of the SicCash sites which you feel I could be promoting differently at hoes.com, you can icq me at 24142711
I understand that some tours convert better than others and I simply haven't had the time to modify those on a sponsor-by-sponsor basis.