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Old 06-16-2004   #1
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does civil war appear to be inevitable now?

just so I understand correctly...

we said "got to get the weapons" there were no weapons.

then we said to hell with the weapons, we went to get saddam.....

but now we give him back?

and what will the insurgents do, or the loyalist, now that they have another goal than just revenge?

why exactly did we go to Iraq and spend billions of dollars again?
you know us stoners get confused when things get this complex...
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I think it's an awful idea and not sure it will happen. Bremer said "legal custody and physical custody can be two separate things".
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Must be pressure from Red Cross!

There are some legal issues to work out. Saddam will probably not last the year.
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A bullet to the head would end those problems
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Can anyone say "thwarted escape attempt?"...

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Can anyone say "thwarted escape attempt?"...

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It's times like this, that I ask myself, "what would Vic Mackey do?".

The solution is obvious, turn him over to the Iraqis....just make sure that the Iraqis that pick him up have all had family members who were tortured and killed by Saddam's thugs if not have spent time in his prisons themselves.
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It's times like this, that I ask myself, "what would Vic Mackey do?".

The solution is obvious, turn him over to the Iraqis....just make sure that the Iraqis that pick him up have all had family members who were tortured and killed by Saddam's thugs if not have spent time in his prisons themselves.
As long as Lem isn't around to screw things up...
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I watched the last two episodes last night since I was gone last week - WHAT THE HELL IS LEM'S PROBLEM??!! And he's the cute one, too.
Lem's just feeling guilty about all the people who've died because of what they did...





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Yeah, Lem was really bumming... plus he was scared to death they were going to get caught.

The finale was excellent. I am liking the Shield even more than 24!
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haha that is great, I love it....
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btw, I disslike bush very much

jokes>

A man walked into a cowboy bar and ordered a beer just as President Bush appeared on the television. After a few sips, he looked up at the television and mumbled, "Now, there's the biggest horse's ass I've ever seen." A customer at the end of the bar quickly stood up, walked over to him, and decked him. A few minutes later, as the man was finishing his beer, Mrs. Bush appeared on the television. "She's a horse's ass too," said the man. This time, a customer at the other end of the bar quickly stood up, walked over to him, and knocked him off his stool. "Damn it!" the man said, climbing back up to the bar. "This must be Bush country!" "Nope," the bartender replied. "Horse country!"

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In 2000, the two major party presidential candidates agreed that Americans were seeing too much inappropriate material in popular entertainment. However, they disagreed on the details. The Republican candidate, George W. Bush, stated that there is too much bloody violence in the movies and on television. Vice President Al Gore, his Democratic opponent, stated that the media present Americans with too much sex and frontal nudity.
In other words, Bush said there was too much gore, and Gore said there was too much bush.
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Resume of George W. Bush The White House, USA

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:

1. I attacked and took over two countries.
2. I spent the U.S. surplus and bankrupted the Treasury.
3. I shattered the record for biggest annual deficit in history.
4. I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any twelve month period.
5. I set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.
6. I am the first president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
7. I am the first president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.
8. In my first year in office I set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history. After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, I presided over the worst security failure in US history.
9. I set the record for most campaign fundraising trips by any president in US history.
10. In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.
11. I cut unemployment benefits for more out-of-work Americans than any other president in US history.
12. I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
13. I appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history.
14. I set the record for the fewest press conferences of any president since the advent of TV.
15. I signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any other president in US history.
16. I presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.
17. I presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
18. I cut health care benefits for war veterans.
19. I set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.
20. I dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.
21. I've made my presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of any in US history.
22. Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (The 'poorest' multi millionaire, Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her).
23. I am the first president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously in a financial crisis.
24. I presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud in any market in any country in the history of the world.
25. I am the first president in US history to order a first US attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation, and I did so against the will of the United Nations and the world community.
26. I have created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.
27. I set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any other president in US history.
28. I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the Human Rights Commission.
29. I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the Elections Monitoring Board.
30. I removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history.
31. I rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.
32. I withdrew from the World Court of Law.
33. I refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
34. I am the first president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors access during the 2002 US elections.
35. I am the all-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.
36. The biggest lifetime contributor to my campaign, who is also one of my best friends, presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).
37. I spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history.
38. I am the first president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied, saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)
39. I am the first US president to establish a secret shadow government.
40. I took the world's sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history).
41. I am the first US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.
42. I am the first US president in history to have the people of South Korea feel more threatened by the US than by their immediate neighbor, North Korea.
43. I changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts. I set the all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling their huge investments in corporations bidding for gov't contracts.
44. I have removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history.
45. In a little over two years I have created the most divided country in decades,possibly the most divided that the US has been since the civil war.
46. I entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading downward.

RECORDS AND REFERENCES: I have at least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available). I was AWOL from the National Guard and deserted the military during a time of war. I refuse to take a drug test or even answer any questions about drug use. All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my fathers library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view. All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view. All minutes of meetings of any public corporation for which I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view. Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.

PERSONAL REFERENCES: For personal references, please speak to my dad or uncle James Baker. (They can be reached in their offices at the Carlyle Group where they are helping to divide up the spoils of the US-Iraq war and plan for the next one.)
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I am gonna like you Budz, but be prepared, alort of republicans, and bush fans over here, but it is actually evening out more and more I think.....

some of them are coming to their sences LOL
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Originally posted by JoesHO1@Jun 16 2004, 07:41 AM
why exactly did we go to Iraq and spend billions of dollars again?
you know us stoners get confused when things get this complex...
You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty.

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Look at Iraq as the ocean, and the few drops as the bad guys... Does Gandhi make sense now?
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I am gonna like you Budz, but be prepared, alort of republicans, and bush fans over here, but it is actually evening out more and more I think.....

some of them are coming to their sences LOL
Joe, I think the evening out part is you realizing how many people here have a certain disdain for both and more balanced view.

There is simply not as much blind support on Oprano for either side.
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Some days I have little and some days I have alot.

ah, cycles. ;-))
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Some days I have little and some days I have alot.

ah, cycles. ;-))
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