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In todays industry, there has been a mad rush to the lowest common denominator. This includes not only the takeover of TGPs, but also in webmaster boards.
As Serge has pointed out we do not want to sink like our competition to paying for posts, giving prizes away for any and everything. We do not want Oprano filled with useless posts, or overrun by kiddies who want to talk about nailing chicks and smoking pot.
In my opinion Oprano has been and always will be about QUALITY.
The big question is, can Quality overcome Quanity? Can Oprano survive in todays busniess environment by focusing on Quality?
If so, how can we emphesis the quality and start attracting other quality webmasters?
How can we improve on the quality of Oprano?
I am convinced that no matter what the fad is, quality is timeless and always in demand.
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Well of course it can "survive" but as far as how much money it makes who knows.
Since there are 20 lurkers per active user, I think the alexa ranking will stay high and advertisers will keep advertising. Nothing is certain about 2 years from now, 5 years from now etc.
Originally posted by pushpills@Apr 3 2004, 07:30 PM Well of course it can "survive" but as far as how much money it makes who knows.
Since there are 20 lurkers per active user, I think the alexa ranking will stay high and advertisers will keep advertising. Nothing is certain about 2 years from now, 5 years from now etc.
Steve, is that your name, right?
read the Bible...
NO MONEY can buy you your lost soul.
Fuck the money, SANITY and pleasure of the good company is MORE important to BOTH of us.
Originally posted by pushpills@Apr 3 2004, 07:30 PM Well of course it can "survive" but as far as how much money it makes who knows.
Since there are 20 lurkers per active user, I think the alexa ranking will stay high and advertisers will keep advertising. Nothing is certain about 2 years from now, 5 years from now etc.
Survive might have been a poor choice of words, how about THRIVE.
It is not just about money, it is also about having the cream of the industry, and offering a top notch product. Having a community of bright people who contribute, but also learn and benefit from the knowledge ( lesson and mistakes) of others.
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Originally posted by pushpills@Apr 3 2004, 07:40 PM If money is not an issue, then yes, Oprano will thrive imo.
I think most in the industry know to come here for worthwhile chat. Although I come for the different smileys.
keen observation on the state of the Industry I got today via ICQ:
"Personally I came to the party because I wanted to listen to the more successful crowd talk, see what pearls were dropped on the floor and by watching everything anticipate the next big moves.
Problem is a lot of the big players are either watching for that same move or they have made the move to fuck everything that moves."
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Apr 3 2004, 07:45 PM-->
QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Apr 3 2004, 07:45 PM)
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Originally posted by Sabby@Apr 3 2004, 07:57 PM
Ironically, then he got banned from amateurmasters and is now stalking me on my other 2 favorite boards... Oprano and Netpond.
Oh shit! Here we go again...
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Sabby you are truly delusional. Why would I stalk you. I post on boards and all of a sudden you show up with insulting posts.
"none of us girls"
Deary me. Us poor girls. Sabby, you are following me from board to board with the same stupid comments. Why are you so fascinated by me? Have I stirred some deep "girly" emotion in you? I can help, but I am not cheap.
While I am pro-piss, and think people should be able to debate issues till the cows come home, Oprano should not be a stalking grounds for people to harass others. Especially those who try to mind their business.
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A couple questions for you to consider. Answer them and you have your answer.
1) Do you and Serge still enjoy having the board?
2) Are your advertisers happy with the results they get from the board?
3) Is the board still profitable?
If yes to all 3 you have your answer for sure. If not your answer could be anywhere from a minor tweak to the board to saying fuck it and closing it down.
Originally posted by TheEnforcer@Apr 3 2004, 08:06 PM A couple questions for you to consider. Answer them and you have your answer.
1) Do you and Serge still enjoy having the board?
2) Are your advertisers happy with the results they get from the board?
3) Is the board still profitable?
If yes to all 3 you have your answer for sure. If not your answer could be anywhere from a minor tweak to the board to saying fuck it and closing it down.
i agree with a couple of those quotes. The current methods of business seem to be in a downward spiral. I catch myself watching to see how it's all gonna break and looking for the new opportunities that upheaval always brings.
I think Oprano presents the best vantage point. If something were to happen like Visa/MC completely leaving adult, I cant imagine not being able to compare thoughts with the people in this forum.
In the interim, it's also hard to totally ignore some of the other boards because there is business to be done there. Although the signal to noise ratio is unbearable. Anyone copying the GFY model is short sighted, I hate posts that were made just for the sake of getting a post and your signature out there. Post only when you have something to say.
With that said, I would truly hate to see Oprano start bribing for participation. I'm not sure I really care what a guy who'll whore himself out for a DVD player has to say. Things like the football pickem are much better...it reminds people to stop by, but it doesn't encourage them to post "would you hit it" posts...
Originally posted by Evil Chris@Apr 3 2004, 08:53 PM Quality will win over.
The occasional prize and contest is fine and all, but paying to post? It has never motivated me to post anywhere in particular.
I think I actually started this pay for post shit when i had Netpond.
But I at least kept it a secret ;-))))
But then I also had insta-shill too....now that was fun.Arguing with yourself ;-)))
Explaining these tricks back in the day to some of the innocent officials was fun too.
its all about marketing, value and percieved value
if i would have asked anyone here 30 years ago... "do you think 100's of companies could compete nation-wide selling bottled water and succeed" each of you would have said no.
everything is possible. no one can cause you to fail in the end but you.
Mike, at the end of it all, if the content of the discussions is "compelling" to people, you will have a crowd. Playing games by cross linking threads, jacking people in circles, and attempting to drag people over from other boards just makes Oprano like every other board. More importantly, you usually end up dragging over the most useless posters... so why bother?
Your sponsors aren't getting value from board monkeys posting "nice babe [pic]" threads... and the rest of us don't get much joy. If I want that type of BS, I go on over to GFY and lower my IQ by 80 points so I fit in.
Make Oprano the flavor you want, not the flavor of the month.
Alex
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Originally posted by RawAlex@Apr 4 2004, 12:28 AM Mike, at the end of it all, if the content of the discussions is "compelling" to people, you will have a crowd. Playing games by cross linking threads, jacking people in circles, and attempting to drag people over from other boards just makes Oprano like every other board. More importantly, you usually end up dragging over the most useless posters... so why bother?
Your sponsors aren't getting value from board monkeys posting "nice babe [pic]" threads... and the rest of us don't get much joy. If I want that type of BS, I go on over to GFY and lower my IQ by 80 points so I fit in.
Make Oprano the flavor you want, not the flavor of the month.
Alex
Alex,
this post should be addressed to me, not Mike, at least the first part.
true to the extent, wrong to the extent....if nobody posted links to other boards on the boards, we'd still be residing on YNOT
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