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and neither you nor I Meni has enough knowledge about stem cell research and the space program and the implications to determine which should be funded how much
It has very little to do with science and everything to do with politics. when the Soviet Union put a man in space it was a catastrophe for western powers. it increased the prestige in the world of the Soviet Union and Communism while having the opposite effect in the west and for Capitalism. countries all over the planet abandoned the west and turned to the Soviet Union and aligned themselves with them.
that is why it became so important to trump that achievement by being the first to put a man on the moon. it was not simply an issue of ego ... it was about winning the cold war, slowing the spead of communism and weakening the influence of the Soviet Union in Asia, Africa and Eastern Europe.
going to Mars is no different than putting a man in orbit or on the moon. it's about credibility as a global power.
Why do you think the EU has sent missions to Mars? Why the hurry? Why do it if someone else is doing it? Whats the point.
Originally posted by JR@Mar 25 2004, 02:25 PM It has very little to do with science and everything to do with politics. when the Soviet Union put a man in space it was a catastrophe for western powers. it increased the prestige in the world of the Soviet Union and Communism while having the opposite effect in the west and for Capitalism. countries all over the planet abandoned the west and turned to the Soviet Union and aligned themselves with them.
that is why it became so important to trump that achievement by being the first to put a man on the moon. it was not simply an issue of ego ... it was about winning the cold war, slowing the spead of communism and weakening the influence of the Soviet Union in Asia, Africa and Eastern Europe.
going to Mars is no different than putting a man in orbit or on the moon. it's about credibility as a global power.
Why do you think the EU has sent missions to Mars? Why the hurry? Why do it if someone else is doing it? Whats the point.
simple.
Credibility.
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I'm confused
colin only cares that enough people will be alive with or without stem cell research
is colin in too deep about numbers?
I'm confused
colin only cares that enough people will be alive with or without stem cell research
is colin in too deep about numbers?
I'm confused
colin only cares that enough people will be alive with or without stem cell research
is colin in too deep about numbers?
I'm confused
colin only cares that enough people will be alive with or without stem cell research
is colin in too deep about numbers?
I'm confused
colin only cares that enough people will be alive with or without stem cell research
is colin in too deep about numbers?
I'm confused
colin only cares that enough people will be alive with or without stem cell research
is colin in too deep about numbers?
I'm confused
colin only cares that enough people will be alive with or without stem cell research
is colin in too deep about numbers?
no
lets just get to the basics
I'd like to see Bush out
Bush panders to much to the religious right
ok?
simple
he's limiting stem cell research
I don't like that
he wants to fly to Mars
I don't agree
we are looking at the biggest deficit in history
not fun
he's going to sign the new bill making fines $275K per instance
ok you don't think thats a blow to free speech
What will our broadcasters talk about?
1 wrong word, and its judged by the FCC, not a court.
and you owe $275,000
This bothers no one on oprano?
So our radio will be Ryan Secherest and John Tesh?
TV? nothing cutting edge?
everything SAFE for middle america?
no one sees this are BAD on this board?
there are what? 50 people who read this board
you wanna dismiss the thousands writing their Senators?
the million who email Clear Channel?
oh bush clear channel connection?
cheney duck hunting with scalia
thats enough for me
time for a change
ok mention Stern please, I'd love for you to debate the man in person
Originally posted by Meni@Mar 25 2004, 12:11 PM
oh so now EU is smart
yet when the don't like our policies you they are fagets?
are you struggling with an addiction to meth-amphetimines?
that would explain a lot or your incoherent rambling, incomplete sentences, incomplete thoughts, incomplete ideas, incomplete arguements, irrational remarks and the generally fucked up person that is YOU.
Originally posted by Colin@Mar 25 2004, 06:24 AM Go to Mars! How about something exciting from NASA? Something exciting enough to get more young kids interested in science. NASA has put all kinds of great observatories in space the past 20 years and has sent probes to and by other planets. A lot of real science has been done. What has been missing is the human factor -- the human factor that caused a generation of kids to grow up wanting to be astronauts like Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin. Rovers don't make good role models.
Originally posted by Meni@Mar 25 2004, 01:52 PM oh ok
Mars?
I don't agree spending $$$$$$$$$$ on Mars
ok?
You do?
i dont care one way or the other. i don't share your belief that the world would be a better place and real social problems would be solved if that money was donated to soup kitchens and homeless shelters.
Meni, I have no problem helping people who NEED help and want to help themselves. But our society, we have too many that want handouts and don't care a rats ass about doing anything for themselves.
But, at the same time. You have to spread the money ALL around.
Hey now..Bush isn't the ONLY president that has spent money on all other programs, not only the space program. ALL of them have for the last 60 years. ALL of them.
Even if your chosen president that you want elected, would also choose to spend money on the space program.
Besides, you never know what space exploration may bring. Someday the cure for some of the worst desieses known to man.
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Whatever happened to the stories about the babies that were successfully cloned right after all the hubub about stem cell research?
It's like the announcements were flying fast about them being incubated here but born in another country, and then... nothing.
Are they still alive? Were they verified to exist in the first place?
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Originally posted by AM Jeff@Mar 26 2004, 12:21 AM Meni, I have no problem helping people who NEED help and want to help themselves. But our society, we have too many that want handouts and don't care a rats ass about doing anything for themselves.
But, at the same time. You have to spread the money ALL around.
Hey now..Bush isn't the ONLY president that has spent money on all other programs, not only the space program. ALL of them have for the last 60 years. ALL of them.
Even if your chosen president that you want elected, would also choose to spend money on the space program.
Besides, you never know what space exploration may bring. Someday the cure for some of the worst desieses known to man.
Jeff stem cell will bring more to curing diseases
than flying to Mars
Originally posted by Meni@Mar 25 2004, 06:35 AM How about spending it on stem cell research
so instead of PRAYING that some kid in a wheelchair can walk
he can actually walk some day
Meni,
What about those kids working hard in the foreign wheelchair factories? How are they going to earn a living if everyone can walk?
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