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Old 12-11-2003   #1
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Just finished all my MEPS stuff today. Had to wake up at 4 am and then do all my tests. Had vision, hearing, blood test, urinalysis, physical and ortho. I also had to see an orthopedic doctor because I have a 5 inch plate with 7 screws in my arm. Apparently I need waiver from the Surgeon General of the Air Force. This will take about 4 to 6 weeks, but technically I'm already in. I just have to get the waiver which everyone is 99% sure I'll get. I'm not sure if I want to do computers or medicine yet. Both will get me a decent job outside the military.

I'm looking at the jobs of Computer, Network, Switching, and Cryptographic Systems , Biomedical Equipment, Bio-envrionmental Engineering.

I got an 87 on my ASVAB so I can get any job I want.

Anyone have any opinions on those jobs?
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I just have to get the waiver which everyone is 99% sure I'll get.
Sheesh, and you're supposed to be good in math! They said "9 times out of 10". That means everyone is 90% sure you'll get in.
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They all look good

Congratulations on your progress so far , man! :-)))

(Don't wanna jinx anything) ;-))
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just to shut you up.
That'll cost ya.........
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TY Nick. I need as little jinxing as possible.
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You are probably right about the waiver - we did that all the time in the late 70s and early 80s.

Air Force skills are probably the most useable after you get out, and as a Navy vet it galls me to have to say something nice about the Air Scouts. All three of those will have civilian applications, but the two medical specialties MIGHT adapt more directly to civilian life, depending on how long you plan on staying in, where you end up stationed after schooling, and any number of other things. If you are thinking in terms of one enlistment, they're probably all equal. As you go further on, you can get so specialized that there really ISN'T a comprable job "outside."

Twenty years ago I would have said just the opposite, because the opportunities for going to work for a defense contractor after as little as six years were far greater than they are today.

I made as much in my first three years out as I did in ten years in, and all I did was play with paper and little plastic boards with a lot of wires.

One last question, just out of curiousity ... was your recruiter's mouth moving?



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Good luck Clemson from one bionic man to another








I still think Mini-Peaches is a better nick for you though :P
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Good Luck mini-peaches !!!!!

I would look for a job that requires the highest security clearance possible...

A current top level clearance is still worth a pretty penney in the civilian world......

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Calling someone "mini-Peaches" who is almost a foot taller then the original Peaches is a bit ironic. :P
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Calling someone "mini-Peaches" who is almost a foot taller then the original Peaches is a bit ironic. :P
But it kinda works don't it
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Well, whatever suits your interests as for what you are looking for in a job is right for you. A lot depends on what you are looking for out of the military.

The military needs good people from intelligence all the way to it's cooks. Just make sure you like what you are doing.
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Interesting week for this conversation ... I just realized that next Friday (12/19) will mark 30 years (gulp) since I went on active duty.
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Congrats on the good ASVAB score! WTG! Sounds like you've got excellent support & info on your end so I'm sure you'll make a very educated choice.

I remember hub got an 85 on his ASVAB and - not knowing much about the Army, not having any family in or friends who would give it to him straight - his recruiter told him that 85 was bad and that all he could qualify for was 13-Bravo... cannoneer. So of course that meant that we got stuck at Ft. Sill, he did his 3 years and we got our asses back to California as fast as we could.

Like I said, sounds like you've got some excellent support & info... I'm sure you'll do great! Best of luck!
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good job clemson, just think of what you enjoy doing and use the AF to help you get there. Of the 2 you pointed out I would choose medicine, it's a field that is always needing more and the pay keeps getting better. My sister is a traveling nurse and can pretty much pick out where she's wants to go and how much she makes. Some places are paying a very high signup bonus. She told me about a hospital in alaska that is giving a 25k signup bonus and top hourly wages. That's some good coin


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I'm looking at the jobs of Computer, Network, Switching, and Cryptographic Systems , Biomedical Equipment, Bio-envrionmental Engineering.

I'd think about what each does for me AFTER you leave the military unless you're planning to be a lifer....

Good network engineering skills should continue to be in high demand. It's hard to ship those jobs off to India. But the very nature of IT means you should plan on changing jobs many times throughtout your career. The occasional layoff is a hazzard of the profession.

The bio jobs tie nicely into medical and healthcare. As the baby boomers age, those jobs will provide the most job security you can possibly get.

But I'd try to research it a bit more. Find out exactly how transferrable the military training and experience is into an actual healthcare job. If even with all that training, you still have to take 1-2 years worth of classes to get the necessary certifications to work the same jobs in the private sector, then what's the point?
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But I'd try to research it a bit more. Find out exactly how transferrable the military training and experience is into an actual healthcare job. If even with all that training, you still have to take 1-2 years worth of classes to get the necessary certifications to work the same jobs in the private sector, then what's the point?
That's what he's trying to research, but it ain't easy. The people to ask "How good will this job be out of the AF?" are usually the ones you offend by asking that question.

I told him just to do what HE WANTED to do. It's no fun spending 4 years learning and doing something you don't want to do just so you can get out and spend the rest of your life doing something you don't want to do.
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Also wanted to add that he can always get more training/schooling while he's in the AF (they pay 100% while you're enlisted) and afterwards with the GI Bill. I suggested he take some accounting/business/economics classes - maybe even just one a semester - while he was enlisted since it was free and it never hurts to learn more about business itself.
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Also wanted to add that he can always get more training/schooling while he's in the AF (they pay 100% while you're enlisted) and afterwards with the GI Bill. I suggested he take some accounting/business/economics classes - maybe even just one a semester - while he was enlisted since it was free and it never hurts to learn more about business itself.
Good plan.

And as long as he's willing to do a bit more schooling after getting out, then he really can do pretty much whatever he wants.
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I told him just to do what HE WANTED to do. It's no fun spending 4 years learning and doing something you don't want to do just so you can get out and spend the rest of your life doing something you don't want to do.
Exakery.
There's a difference between "having a job" and "getting paid to do what you enjoy doing".
Try to think less on what it'll be worth on the outside, and focus instead on what you *really* like to do.
There's a saying like "do what you love, and the money will come"... and it's true. Might not make you the next multi-billionaire, but then again it just might

Congrats on the score and here's hoping the good tidings keep coming all the way through your enlistment!
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