Strange payout system? Is it the next big thing?

Mike AI · 06-03-2003

http://www.payserve.com/programs.html

Seems kind of strange, they make the PPS like a one time higher % Rev Share.

They also do not have trials, and they charge in Euros. I wonder if they pay out in Euros?

Think it will work? I am not sure I would want to send traffic to a site that charges40 Euros straight up, and only pays out 80% of the first 30 signups....

Mike AI · 06-03-2003

Also I am not sure of this, maybe someone can help - but the clubseventeen, and the other "seventeen" sites - do they have photos and content of girls under 18? ( that are indeed 17... I think it is legal there....)

If they do have models nude who are 17, would this be an issue in sending traffic, promoting it here in the United States?

Rolo · 06-03-2003

Since they are based in Europe, then they are also paying VAT/sales tax on all signups from EU countries (19%)... That could explain the lower payout.

Trials are ok for some sites, others do not need them... I guess their "seventeen" site can convert without a trial (have never send traffic to them - I´m only guessing).

Mike AI · 06-03-2003

Rolo, I agree with you - some sites do not need trials. I do not have trials on my Amateur sites....

But I am not also hammering people for $40 a month....

VAT tax could explain a lot....

Hooper · 06-03-2003

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would this be an issue in sending traffic, promoting it here in the United States?

I bet that nobody can answer that question. Even the best lawyer can only guess.

Question comes down to... do you want to find out if it's legal?

sextoyking · 06-03-2003

Hooper,

hell no, not worth it to find out if it's legal. If you live in Holland np. Usa oh no!

Dravyk · 06-03-2003

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Originally posted by Mike AI@Jun 3 2003, 12:16 PM
If they do have models nude who are 17, would this be an issue in sending traffic, promoting it here in the United States?

In England I think you can show a 16 year old topless.

In certain places beastiality is cool. The Hun regularly promotes paid beastiality gallery placements.

Unless they've changed recently, Japan still allows 12 year olds naked ...

... In other words, I wouldn't do anything that's legal elsewhere that's not legal here (in one's country of business.)

Mike AI · 06-03-2003

Yeah I agree with you guys....

People in the US would be crazy to promote these sites just based on content.

Of course realisticly the funky payouts will be REAL reason people do not send traffic to them....

Rolo · 06-03-2003

I have seen that payout model on many european based programs... usual its because they have multiple payment options beside credit cards (ex. dialers, 900#, online checks, giro, bank transfers etc.). Not all of those are recurring, so paying 50-70% on all transactions are normal.
Makes it simple for the affiliate to understand the payout model, and gives the affiliate program better cashflow.

Is this the future - well my personal opinion is that per signup model as we knew have been dying the last few years. 2 years from now I do not think there will be many left paying $30-35 for every free trial signup without heavy scrubbing (or shaving). So something has to replace it, if webmasters want to see good signup ratios, and receive most $ per click they send.

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Mike AI Administrator Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 11,618	http://www.payserve.com/programs.html Seems kind of strange, they make the PPS like a one time higher % Rev Share. They also do not have trials, and they charge in Euros. I wonder if they pay out in Euros? Think it will work? I am not sure I would want to send traffic to a site that charges40 Euros straight up, and only pays out 80% of the first 30 signups.... __________________ Make big money on your Domains! Why wait 40 days to get paid with the other guys? Parked.com pays the most for your traffic, and cuts checks twice a month!

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Mike AI Administrator Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 11,618	Also I am not sure of this, maybe someone can help - but the clubseventeen, and the other "seventeen" sites - do they have photos and content of girls under 18? ( that are indeed 17... I think it is legal there....) If they do have models nude who are 17, would this be an issue in sending traffic, promoting it here in the United States? __________________ Make big money on your Domains! Why wait 40 days to get paid with the other guys? Parked.com pays the most for your traffic, and cuts checks twice a month!

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Rolo Members Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Six Feet Under Posts: 2,150	Since they are based in Europe, then they are also paying VAT/sales tax on all signups from EU countries (19%)... That could explain the lower payout. Trials are ok for some sites, others do not need them... I guess their "seventeen" site can convert without a trial (have never send traffic to them - I´m only guessing). __________________ "Chaos is the law of nature, order is the dream of man." ~Henry B. Adams (Historian) 1838-1918

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Mike AI Administrator Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 11,618	Rolo, I agree with you - some sites do not need trials. I do not have trials on my Amateur sites.... But I am not also hammering people for $40 a month.... VAT tax could explain a lot.... __________________ Make big money on your Domains! Why wait 40 days to get paid with the other guys? Parked.com pays the most for your traffic, and cuts checks twice a month!

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