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Old 05-30-2003   #1
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if http://www.internext-expo.com/sponsors02.shtml is any indication, i dont think i've ever seen so few sponsors listed at the beginning of june.
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no shit!

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Yeah Hoop, further evidence biz is heading south....

That and no one wants to be in S. Florida at the hottest time of the year!!
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Yeah Hoop, further evidence biz is heading south....

That and no one wants to be in S. Florida at the hottest time of the year!!
S.F. is GOOD for August show, cuts cost drastically...
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Serge will be shopping around for the Oprano Vineyard....

I on the other hand WILL be in South Florida.... probably going to drive from Tampa.

I have been debating about putting on a small party.... I may even have something to finally promote!!

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Have a crawfish boil on the beach. That would be swoit.
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Serge will be shopping around for the Oprano Vineyard....

I on the other hand WILL be in South Florida.... probably going to drive from Tampa.

I have been debating about putting on a small party.... I may even have something to finally promote!!

I'm sure SMALL party won't be a problem,
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Ulfie it would be hard to find crawfish in Miami during August....

I was thinking something more intimate.... maybe with some HiRise models...
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Ulfie it would be hard to find crawfish in Miami during August....

I was thinking something more intimate.... maybe with some HiRise models...
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Yeah Serge, something like the good old days!!!

Something we are focusing on with PureCash 2.0.... bringing back the good old days!

Once I am established in Tampa, I think I will have a nice stable of models.... we can arrange some private parties.... your bring the wine and coffee pot, I will take care of rest!!
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Ulfie it would be hard to find crawfish in Miami during August....

I was thinking something more intimate.... maybe with some HiRise models...
I think I could handle that. Billy gave me a tour of your office last time I was in NO and I've seen the talent. Pretty nice eye candy.
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Yeah Serge, something like the good old days!!!

Something we are focusing on with PureCash 2.0.... bringing back the good old days!

Once I am established in Tampa, I think I will have a nice stable of models.... we can arrange some private parties.... your bring the wine and coffee pot, I will take care of rest!!
We'll be happy to bring over some of our crazy models for a party

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Yeah Serge, something like the good old days!!!

Something we are focusing on with PureCash 2.0.... bringing back the good old days!

Once I am established in Tampa, I think I will have a nice stable of models.... we can arrange some private parties.... your bring the wine and coffee pot, I will take care of rest!!
please define the rest...
if my wife runs away with one of your models,
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Just because there are fewer sponsors doesn't mean a whole lot about attendance. Nowdays exhibitors have gotten spoiled on the get togethers with no exhibit hall. They don't want all the work and expense anymore.... they just want to go and see the people that are important to them. They only exhibit nowdays because their competitor is. If their competior doesn't they don't either.

The thing they are missing, is that people don't know where to find them. You hear a lot of "do you know where so and so is?" They DO miss out on business, but maybe not enough for the time and expense of having a booth. ???

When they choose to not have a booth or downsize drastically, they don't have to send as many people - and that DOES affect attendance!

I am sure that you will see a last minute rush, when they finally 'get in the mood. When they think they are getting left out - they will react. (but not in the way we are accustomed to)

One of the things that will affect attendance (besides money) is that shows just don't have the 'networking value that they used to have. There are too many other opportuities to get together. .... and some are ready to be more isolated with their own little groups.

Shows will be much smaller from now on.
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Internext and sponsorships...

At the last show in Vegas we had a booth, and we had a little party a few of you may remember it, http://playerhaterball.com/ as you can see most of the sponsors of the little party had booths, and guess what ???? When we requested to have our party linked with all the others we were denied so I would have to vote on not sponsoring the show and just doing something for our friends... maybe a little party in Florida will be a great idea !!

Mike should I go to your house and look for money under the seat cushions ??? Let me know !

Also I will put up a will throw party for cash page if you want to get this rolling !!!
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Maybe the size of the convention will pan out ... I might go ... i havent been to florida in years
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Can't say as I blame sponsors for not having booths. Quite frankly the chorus line always goes like this... "I was stuck in my booth, the person I wanted to see was stuck in their booth, by the time we finally got to see each other it was too (crowded, loud, rowdy, late, insert whatever you like here) to really get anything done. So we set up a meeting for the next day and then someone didn't show up to my booth, so I was stuck at my booth, and someone didn't show up to their booth... "

Need I go on?

I've always been lucky in my situation, in that I've never been stuck in a booth. It wasn't my lot in life. Thus I never had to slit my wrists on the show floor and laugh while the blood ran out.

Booths make good meet-up places, but that's about it, really. You can't get a private conversation in unless you have a space upstairs, inside, etc, and those booths are quite expensive.

If not having that added expense of hauling around an overpriced booth and staffing it with people all day is spoiled, then spoil me all the more.
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Everyone is watching ROI a bit more closely these days and booths are expensive. It's not just our industry. Even at Comdex, those monstrousities that took up nearly a quarter of the main hall of the LVCC are ancient history.

IMO, if you do a booth, you do a booth that is just large enough to show everything you need to show. And you man it mostly with hired help, maybe rotate in some more senior folx who can answer the tough questions a couple of hours at a time.

Meanwhile, someone in the booth has the iteneraries of all of the company's players and schedules meetings as needed for the real opportunities. I was always fond of having a sales suite type setup, so you've got a quiet place to meet and entertain without a lot of other ears around. The booth smiles and passes out literature and cards, but the players are given meetings up in the suite along with a nice comfy place to kick back and have some drinks, etc.
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ROI, shmoi...let's get real!

Internext is dead for just one reason:
They pissed Billly off in Las Vegas.

End of story
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Yeah Hoop, further evidence biz is heading south....

That and no one wants to be in S. Florida at the hottest time of the year!!
I thought that was kinda of odd at first but then I started thinking that it was summer and slow. Still a crappy place for a summer event.

I would have picked a nice big ass lake up in the Adirondacks.
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Its no fun when you give permission :P

Alas, I don't think i'll there in august, as much as i'd love a summer holiday. The only thing i'll miss about internext is the people I get to catch up with, but its everyone else's turn to get on a long assed plane flight.

The august show last year was a blast ... the weather was perfect, it didn't get too hot for the few days of the show, and lots of biz done sitting by the pool with cocktails ... what a way to work!
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We'll be there. Last years show was a blast, but who knows if it can repeat.

CJ, sorry to hear you won't be coming. Was hoping to taste your cooking again! Uncle Mike is going to be disappointed.

Serge, I still need to get the eggplant / garlic recipe. That was awesome, too!
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Get Uncle Mike on a plane and bring him down under, he would get along great with my mum you can sample my cooking whenever you are in the country! I get my steaks directly from the wholesaler who supplied my parents restaurant ... grain fed kilcoy beef fillet tails, finest texture you've ever tasted
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Ill be there of course as I only live 12 miles from the hotel

I was thinking of putting together a fishing charter for a 1/2 day trip deep water

Kingfish
Shark
Dolphin
ect ect

I know a couple captains with boats who would love to take us out

naked girls serving us cocktails and food as we fight the big ones



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ya had me until here ....
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Get Uncle Mike on a plane and bring him down under, he would get along great with my mum you can sample my cooking whenever you are in the country! I get my steaks directly from the wholesaler who supplied my parents restaurant ... grain fed kilcoy beef fillet tails, finest texture you've ever tasted
That sounds great and I was seriously planning on coming out in the latter part of the year, but with the wife due in late November we won't be able to make it.

Now I'm wondering if I ever will.
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I would have picked a nice big ass lake up in the Adirondacks.
May I suggest.....

Tupper Lake New York....

Beautiful place, beautiful people.....

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We spent our summers at Paradox Lake

Very cool area..... Old Forge, Fort Ticonderoga... Lake George...

Lots of touristy stuff and lots of Mountains, streams and Lakes....

Wonderful area.....

I am so old too...... Hate that part of it...
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Ill be there of course as I only live 12 miles from the hotel

I was thinking of putting together a fishing charter for a 1/2 day trip deep water

Kingfish
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I know a couple captains with boats who would love to take us out

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I meant the fishing!
I was hoping to see Serge serving drinks
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I meant the fishing!
I was hoping to see Serge serving drinks
I have no problem with that,
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just ask MikeW and Forest
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At least I know my limits. You are right. I dont think I could handle a naked Serge

LOL. I will keep that in mind when sending the invites.
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LOL. I will keep that in mind when sending the invites.
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why?
are you THAT good serving the drinks nekkid???
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fat guys cant serve

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