Heres How 2257 Should Be Addressed

[TheEnforcer]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

2257 should be removed.
It's that simple.
When are we going to stop accepting governments demanding to "show me your papers" before we can enjoy the freedoms guaranteed to us by birthright?

Anything less is appeasement. And appeasement only makes the aggressor, more aggressive.
We must fight the fight. Stop "accepting" tighter and tighter restrictions.
They don't work anyhow. The criminals still break the law. All you are doing is hurting the honest people.

There is no way to "sensibly apply 2257," as it is unconstitutional. And it will always be so.

LOL

So you think you have the right to do whatever the hell you want without any interference from the government eh? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

I don't disagree that 2257 as setup is bad but to say there is absolutely no call for it? That's a joke of epic proportions. Guess you believed the robber barons of the 19th century were sweet guys, Enron was a victim of the government and Bernie Madoff was a great investor. I mean those are shining examples of responsibility with lax oversight right?

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by TheEnforcer

LOL

So you think you have the right to do whatever the hell you want without any interference from the government eh? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

I don't disagree that 2257 as setup is bad but to say there is absolutely no call for it? That's a joke of epic proportions. Guess you believed the robber barons of the 19th century were sweet guys, Enron was a victim of the government and Bernie Madoff was a great investor. I mean those are shining examples of responsibility with lax oversight right?

The current theory of 2257, extended to each of those examples would be like this:

everyone who ever gave a meal to a robber baron or who painted their house would be responsible for their crimes. The companies that purchase and resold energy, operated the power plants, and ran the electrical lines would be criminally responsible for Enron, and every Madoff investor would do hard time for Bernie's malfeasance.

Oh yeah, in each case, each person involved would be required to keep details and duplicate records of every transaction that occured. Power companies would have to be able to sort power usage by household to show exactly what power went to what house, etc.

oversight is what you do in production, not something that should be done at retail.

[TheEnforcer]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

The current theory of 2257, extended to each of those examples would be like this:

everyone who ever gave a meal to a robber baron or who painted their house would be responsible for their crimes. The companies that purchase and resold energy, operated the power plants, and ran the electrical lines would be criminally responsible for Enron, and every Madoff investor would do hard time for Bernie's malfeasance.

Oh yeah, in each case, each person involved would be required to keep details and duplicate records of every transaction that occured. Power companies would have to be able to sort power usage by household to show exactly what power went to what house, etc.

oversight is what you do in production, not something that should be done at retail.

As I said, which you seem to ignore, is that the current 2257 setup is over burdensome. I was responding to someone who said that it should be scrapped period.