Naked Rhino VS NATS

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by raymor

I've talked to both of them at length. I didn't go into much detail about this issue with the NATS
guys, but I have gotten to know them. In my opinion, Naked Rhino probably didn't cheat
any affiliates. In my opinion, NATS was trying to do the right thing but we all make mistakes
sometimes and they made the same mistake that I've made - publicly posting something
that shouldn't have been posted - at least not yet. I can understand that 100% because
in the past I've posted things about NATS that I shouldn't have posted. That's just my guess
or prediction. I don't know any facts that aren't public and am speaking only from the impression
I have about the people involved. Both seemed to be reasonably honest people. Things just
became public too soon, before anyone really knew 100% for sure what all was going.
I don't do business with scammers, liars, or cheaters. I still do business with Naked Rhino,
who uses Strongbox, and NATS, whose product I recommend and who recommends Strongbox.

Ive said from the begining I like both parties involved. Know them both on a personal level. Ive recommended NATS to numerous people and I have sent traffic to Naked Rhino as well as spoken with Chris and Brandi on many occassions.

And again as Ive stated Im just curious how this will end up. But I hear the wait is almost over. So all the cards will be on the table and everyone can make a judgement for themselves.

Totally unrelated but akin to your comment... there is a major wind of change starting to blow. Adult has become a BIG revuenue stream for many companies that provide services. And a lot of their competitors as well as upstarts are licking their chops for a piece of that pie.

Take for instance the lastest revision of Visa regs. We all know this time last year I pinned a message telling you that a 3rd party processor would be noncompliant and stop processing US Visa transactions.

And look how that ended up.

Now the requirements have become even more stringent and the steps that it takes to secure information for those processing VISA has become more expensive and time consuming.

Be careful who you trust to handle your money.

This industry steps closer to becoming regulated by the Feds every year.

The first CAN SPAM conviction was made this year.
The first 2257 violation was prosecuted this year.

Whats next?

My guess is the FTC and Feds will begin to persue those using spyware and trojans to steal money , time and resources by hijacking your computer.

Its in our best interest to start doing something about it now.

The best way is to start working with those that want to do business with us know that have credibility with the public and Feds.

Youll notice a new button at the top of Oprano.

The wind of change starts to blow next week in LA.

[Jace]

http://raleighfilmstudios.com/contacts.htm

interesting....

[Jace]

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scroll to the very bottom

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[RawAlex]

Gonzo, as much as the porn business tends to be a bit of a "bros club", my feeling is that at some point the industry will turn on itself and the lawyers will come out bigtime. There is way to many rogue affiliates out there.

[will76]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Whats next?

My guess is the FTC and Feds will begin to persue those using spyware and trojans to steal money , time and resources by hijacking your computer.
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Good post, and I can only hope that the part above does indeed happen and they go after the people who profited off of "then stolen goods" as well.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by will76

Good post, and I can only hope that the part above does indeed happen and they go after the people who profited off of "then stolen goods" as well.

Its about time you made it over here ...

[will76]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Its about time you made it over here ...

I spent too much time on GFY but that was where all the bad people posted so it was good place to "chat" with them. Since I have been put into forced retirement in that respect now I can spend more time on quality boards

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by will76

I spent too much time on GFY but that was where all the bad people posted so it was good place to "chat" with them. Since I have been put into forced retirement in that respect now I can spend more time on quality boards

Youll find a lot of people here to be honest and hard working.

The conversation can get very spirited but I believe that most people on here are pretty decent.

Spin, Hype and indignantcy doesnt thrive here nor do the reborn thieves making their second run at adult because they couldnt compete in mainstream without an angle or cheat.

But then again...those reborn programs are all fueled by prechecked cross sales anyhow.

Welcome nonetheless. I cant promise you that I will agree with you 100% of the time but Im certainly interested in hearing what you have to say as I am with everyone else that stops by.

Dont mind the ones that call us newbs with big mouths.

I dont.

[Sexyteaser]

I posted what I know so far here: http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/showthread.php?t=89612

This complaint is very different than the other one and I do believe it should be of interest to everyone in the industry - This is front page news!

[pam]

Will, go over to MP and ask how many there weren't paid and many of those who weren't paid will speak up as they have in the past.

[will76]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Spin, Hype and indignantcy doesnt thrive here nor do the reborn thieves making their second run at adult because they couldnt compete in mainstream without an angle or cheat.

But then again...those reborn programs are all fueled by prechecked cross sales anyhow.

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A couple names come to mind while reading that


thanks, if everyone agreed with me all the time what fun would that be. I learn new stuff every day, its healthy to see other people's points of view. Things i can't stand are the people with the " one liners" who tell you that you are wrong or others who make rediculas statements without any thing substantual to back it up.