Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?

[Hell Puppy]

People love drama. Human nature. It's the thing the keeps bad reality tv shows going strong. It's hard not to stop and stare at a train wreck.

However, Sabby's trying to do business. Maybe made a few mistakes along the way, most of us have. But she's always been somewhat of a regular here on Oprano regardless of who the owner du jour is. Anyone still actually trying to do real business in adult should be welcome here and encouraged not gloated upon when they have a setback.

Pick yourself up and figure out what your next move is Sabby.

From the cheap seats down here in FFN-land, the relationship with jayman based upon his other sites didn't really seem to "fit". And the tours just didn't seem to carry any of the same psychology that you use to lure guys into your cam shows. A mistake IMO.

[pam]

I'd never seen the site but just clicked on it. Who wrote the text? I saw more typos than I could believe. I wasn't able to view any photos -- guess it's a good thing I'm not ready to sign up, because I'm one of those surfers who disables both javascript and Flash, so if I was looking for a MILF site, you'd have lost a customer.

Why oh why won't more webmasters realize that simple is best and not everyone wants all the bells and whistles?

[Sabby]

Originally Posted by pam

I'd never seen the site but just clicked on it. Who wrote the text? I saw more typos than I could believe. I wasn't able to view any photos -- guess it's a good thing I'm not ready to sign up, because I'm one of those surfers who disables both javascript and Flash, so if I was looking for a MILF site, you'd have lost a customer.

Why oh why won't more webmasters realize that simple is best and not everyone wants all the bells and whistles?

Sabby

[pam]

It's a real pet peeve of mine for a lot of reasons. When I began with sites, webTV was a big thing, and I quickly learned to make my sites as simple as possible so everyone could view them.

I can't tell you how many sites I can't view due to Flash or Javascript. I have had a few sites want to be reviewed and when I visited their page to sign up, Firefox would crash due to the Flash, and if I asked if they had a non-Flash page (many will do this, the smart folks) they would simply say no -- no brains to offer to sign me up so I don't crash, either.

I admit I don't know you or your niche, Sabby, but only know you from The Pond. My advice (unsolicited, for what its worth) is to contact Sheri Santiago of Wild West Cash since she has a lot of success with extreme girl sites. She's a porn chick with a good head on her shoulders (now is the time for the guys to chime in about her boobs).

[softball]

Originally Posted by pam

It's a real pet peeve of mine for a lot of reasons. When I began with sites, webTV was a big thing, and I quickly learned to make my sites as simple as possible so everyone could view them.

I can't tell you how many sites I can't view due to Flash or Javascript. I have had a few sites want to be reviewed and when I visited their page to sign up, Firefox would crash due to the Flash, and if I asked if they had a non-Flash page (many will do this, the smart folks) they would simply say no -- no brains to offer to sign me up so I don't crash, either.

I admit I don't know you or your niche, Sabby, but only know you from The Pond. My advice (unsolicited, for what its worth) is to contact Sheri Santiago of Wild West Cash since she has a lot of success with extreme girl sites. She's a porn chick with a good head on her shoulders (now is the time for the guys to chime in about her boobs).

I have been banging this drum for years. There is a need for speed on a website. It has to load fast, be uncomplicated, and simply navigable. Who cares if it looks all of this and all of that? If it sells, it is great design. However, Sabby herself has beat me up over my "ugly" web design for years, so I think this advice will fall on deaf ears.

[Sabby]

Well other than all the obvious shit that doesnt work right on it, I think its much to morbid and "butchy" looking. And I am anything but. It should be way more femme.

And I am not extreme enough to be considered extreme. (have you seen some of the extreme sites, lol). "kinky" is a better term.

This might be all hindsite though I really dont think I have the energy to get back on the horse again. I make really good money on cam still and I think I would like to just do that, play with my traffic a bit, and kick my husbands ass out into the real world to get a job. I'm tired of being around him 24/7. He talks to much.

LOL.


Sabby

[softball]

Originally Posted by Sabby

Well other than all the obvious shit that doesnt work right on it, I think its much to morbid and "butchy" looking. And I am anything but. It should be way more femme.

And I am not extreme enough to be considered extreme. (have you seen some of the extreme sites, lol). "kinky" is a better term.

This might be all hindsite though I really dont think I have the energy to get back on the horse again. I make really good money on cam still and I think I would like to just do that, play with my traffic a bit, and kick my husbands ass out into the real world to get a job. I'm tired of being around him 24/7. He talks to much.

LOL.


Sabby

Ive loved, Ive laughed and cried.
Ive had my fill; my share of losing.
And now, as tears subside,
I find it all so amusing.

To think I did all that;
And may I say - not in a shy way,
No, oh no not me,
I did it my way.

[pam]

My first host told me in 1995 to KISS, because not all systems were compatible, and since a huge majority of my surfers were webTV folks, I learned to be as simple as possible.

I did the design on one of my paysites myself, except for the logo. It's very basic, very plain and does very well.

Surfers tell me they don't care about the glamour and glitz, they want to see the pussy.

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by pam

I'd never seen the site but just clicked on it. Who wrote the text? I saw more typos than I could believe. I wasn't able to view any photos -- guess it's a good thing I'm not ready to sign up, because I'm one of those surfers who disables both javascript and Flash, so if I was looking for a MILF site, you'd have lost a customer.

Why oh why won't more webmasters realize that simple is best and not everyone wants all the bells and whistles?

http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/showthread.php?t=47845


spaz

[Sabby]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

From the cheap seats down here in FFN-land, the relationship with jayman based upon his other sites didn't really seem to "fit". And the tours just didn't seem to carry any of the same psychology that you use to lure guys into your cam shows. A mistake IMO.

Yep. That and I think they took on a few too many projects than they are capable of handling.


Sabby