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Old 08-25-2005   #1
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Big TGP owners make 7 figures? Really. By themselves? Or by creating their own paysite and program?

How did you get that information, as I don't see big TGP owners making it public.
some make 7 figures, based off their traffic alone.
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AL4A had to be the best at it. Leveraged some traffic to his paysites, got the webmasters to his affiliate program, opened up the hosting company, then the content shooting.

Richard probably did that best second. Greenie and Tommy third. PK fourth. And that's not including the Adult Buffet guys, the ones who now own World Sex and others.

A handful of TGP and Links List owners can make six figures with traffic alone to other people's paysites. None of them can make seven unless they leverage it to other diversified holdings. Certainly not now, and probably not even Then.
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i am thinking...


uhm....


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Big Fish = How much money can they make ME?

Other than that I really could not care less.


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some make 7 figures, based off their traffic alone.
Traffic alone or selling ad space plus some traffic? From what I can tell the main income producer for TGPs is selling adspace (and now "affiliate memberships"). If they were making $$$ off their traffic alone, there would be no need for paid spots as they could put thier own links in there and rake it in.
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Traffic alone or selling ad space plus some traffic? From what I can tell the main income producer for TGPs is selling adspace (and now "affiliate memberships"). If they were making $$$ off their traffic alone, there would be no need for paid spots as they could put thier own links in there and rake it in.
I concur.

TGP owners tht make money also have their own affilaite programs. Makes sense.

TGP owners making 7 figures from just tgp traffic. Bullshit.

I've had a 800k unique site before, I could make 6 figures, but nowhere near 7, and this is back when that traffic was better.
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I concur.

TGP owners tht make money also have their own affilaite programs. Makes sense.

TGP owners making 7 figures from just tgp traffic. Bullshit.

I've had a 800k unique site before, I could make 6 figures, but nowhere near 7, and this is back when that traffic was better.
Geo-IP ads didn't exist then And anthony, I know people who have sites with 500k a day, and can't even make 5k/month. And I know people who run big TGPs and make 7 figures from traffic alone.
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Geo-IP ads didn't exist then And anthony, I know people who have sites with 500k a day, and can't even make 5k/month. And I know people who run big TGPs and make 7 figures from traffic alone.
Biggy, I concede. There are better ways to sell now than yesteryear.

But what do i know, I'm just a sales and marketing guy.
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some make 7 figures, based off their traffic alone.
For the sake of ease...

1m pa from traffic.

say $30 per signups.

33000 approx signups per yr

Roughly 100 plus joins a day sustained.

100 joins a day from a TGP, say it is converting at 1 in 1000 overall , 100,000 unique hits a day from a link.....Nawwwwwwwwwwwwwww

100,000 skim a day would be toough to do and on skim the conversions would be waaaaaaaay worse.Hell the click from a link would be doing VERY well at that level of traffic to convert at 1:1000

The only people that can sustain that level is mailers and SEOs..maybe SEOs.

Jast time I had a top gallery on the hun. I think the raw clicks i got to the gallery was around 100,000 ( granted this is ssome years ago)

I'd guess that the traffic to a main gallery is at least twice the clicks to a sponsor.
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For the sake of ease...

1m pa from traffic.

say $30 per signups.

33000 approx signups per yr

Roughly 100 plus joins a day sustained.

100 joins a day from a TGP, say it is converting at 1 in 1000 overall , 100,000 unique hits a day from a link.....Nawwwwwwwwwwwwwww

100,000 skim a day would be toough to do and on skim the conversions would be waaaaaaaay worse.Hell the click from a link would be doing VERY well at that level of traffic to convert at 1:1000

The only people that can sustain that level is mailers and SEOs..maybe SEOs.

Jast time I had a top gallery on the hun. I think the raw clicks i got to the gallery was around 100,000 ( granted this is ssome years ago)

I'd guess that the traffic to a main gallery is at least twice the clicks to a sponsor.

im going to pick your brain a little its a little one sided to think to a TGP owner only promotes PPS programs. To get a little creative on you, I know one TGP guy who had his own P2P network developed and that was what he mainly pushed. With a few hundred thousand hits a day, over time he got a lot of installs... and made good money. Note: this is separate from the people i know who do 7 figures from traffic alone
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For the sake of ease...

1m pa from traffic.

say $30 per signups.

33000 approx signups per yr

Roughly 100 plus joins a day sustained.

100 joins a day from a TGP, say it is converting at 1 in 1000 overall , 100,000 unique hits a day from a link.....Nawwwwwwwwwwwwwww

100,000 skim a day would be toough to do and on skim the conversions would be waaaaaaaay worse.Hell the click from a link would be doing VERY well at that level of traffic to convert at 1:1000

The only people that can sustain that level is mailers and SEOs..maybe SEOs.

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Very maybe - I heard some reliable figures a couple of months back and they were definitely not making a million a year. About half of that for one of the top guys was what I heard.
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