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Old 06-23-2005   #1
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... what did the government get out of the FSC deal that they agreed to it? What's in it for them?

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You mean other than potential access to the full FSC member list?

Go after someone who isnt an FSC member, get them to cop a plea, the government gets to prove their new regulation actually work, in a court of law.

Go after someone on the FSC member list, charge them with something, have the full list unsealed.

Its win-win for the DOJ.
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Good question dravyk. I would also wonder how secure is the list? IE- is the deal that the DOJ NEVER EVER gets their hands on the list or what?
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You mean other than potential access to the full FSC member list?

Go after someone who isnt an FSC member, get them to cop a plea, the government gets to prove their new regulation actually work, in a court of law.

Go after someone on the FSC member list, charge them with something, have the full list unsealed.

Its win-win for the DOJ.
why would they need the FSC members list to achieve this? they still would have to do inspections and i would guess that the assumption would be the FSC members are more likely to be in compliance than the average idiot in this business. the government does not go after long shots.. they go after slam dunks. having a list of FSC members is not proof of anything and its not meaningful information that could not be obtained through other means.

no one can just charge someone with something without verifying that a crime was committed and a law was broken.... correct?

your logic is pretty flawed.
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I would also wonder how secure is the list? IE- is the deal that the DOJ NEVER EVER gets their hands on the list or what?
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According to the stipulation, agreed to and issued as an order of the Court today, the DoJ, will submit any entity it intends to inspect to a Special Master who will then check the entity's name against a sealed and confidential FSC membership list. The Special Master will be appointed by the Court, with the consent of the parties, and will be under a specific obligation to maintain the confidentiality of the FSC membership list.

A master list of members will be submitted to the Special Master on Wednesday June 29, 2005, and will include all FSC members as of 2 p.m. Pacific Daylight Time, Saturday June 25, 2005.

At no time will the DoJ have direct access to the FSC membership list, which will remain under seal.
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Lee that's an interesting point. Why pay FSC anything if you are already 100% compliant?
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(Ok, fine, still not asleep yet, anyhow, damnit ...)

To get back to the question -- excluding Lee's theories which could be their own thread -- what does the government get out of this???
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... what did the government get out of the FSC deal that they agreed to it? What's in it for them?
I think the DOJ want this thing to hold in court, so they will do alot to work with the "responsible adult community" (.xxx logic), which will get this thing to look more legit, and not like a take over by the goverment (.xxx tactic)

There will always be a test case, when new laws/rules are made - the first one always get special attention - after that they will pull up the train wagons, and transport us to the camps

FSC is not the bad guy here - towards your energy against those who are coming after you h34r:



Oh - and I see some similarities between 2257 and .xxx tld, thats why I put in the (xxx) ;-)
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I think the DOJ want this thing to hold in court, so they will do alot to work with the "responsible adult community" (.xxx logic), which will get this thing to look more legit, and not like a take over by the goverment (.xxx tactic)
What's responsible about not being compliant by the deadline? ;-)

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Right, just a bunch of lawyers who need to feed their kids, nothing new ;-)
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What's responsible about not being compliant by the deadline? ;-)
From the FSC press release:

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DOJ will probably not hold it against the FSC, if some of the FSC members are not listing ;-))
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No.

The assumtion is that anyone joining the FSC in recent days, have done so BECAUSE they arent already in compliance, at least, thats what i would be thinking were i Mr Gonzales and they are only joining because they want 'protection'.

Oh and they would want to unseal the FSC memberlist because, if one person on that list ISNT compliant, the chances are, others wont be either.
i would say that is YOUR assumption and its unfounded and incorrect. you have to be in compliance no matter what... today. right now... its the law. the FSC went out of their way to tell everyone they have to be in compliance.
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Right, just a bunch of lawyers who need to feed their kids, nothing new ;-)
If there were no laws, then there would be no lawyers... to get the number of lawyers down, then we need fewer laws, and to get fewer laws, then we need to reduce the amount of politicians
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To get back to the question -- excluding Lee's theories which could be their own thread -- what does the government get out of this???
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Is it possibly that they could try and tack on what they see as legitimate .xxx tlds, or am i just being cunty
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Is it possibly that they could try and tack on what they see as legitimate .xxx tlds, or am i just being cunty
Anything is a possibility the way things are flowing these days...


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