Who is the Jesse James of the Internet - Page 2

slavdogg · 09-17-2003

I would put John Zuccarini on this list as well

wig · 09-17-2003

don't forget Ken Taves!

nlphoto · 09-17-2003

This abuse of my name is so cruel...

*KK* · 09-17-2003

I would guess that not one of the really big ones has been mentioned, aside from Crescent and Taves.

Dravyk · 09-17-2003

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Originally posted by *KK*@Sep 17 2003, 08:09 PM
I would guess that not one of the really big ones has been mentioned, aside from Crescent and Taves.

Yep, and, as we know, they probably won't be as long as they're still active since most folks are savvy enough to not burn bridges.

Will be interesting to see in three years time what names will be added to the list, as well as who will still be around to add them.

Toolz · 09-17-2003

Drav,

I'm sure we'll all still have PC's in three years time, what we're doing with them.... that'll be another story.

BradShaw · 09-17-2003

Biggest scammers in the biz over the past IMHO include CE, Aussies (including about everyone Cj has ever worked for), Crescent, Babenet, and many more.

Surpised several of these have not been mentioned yet.

Dravyk · 09-17-2003

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Originally posted by Toolz@Sep 17 2003, 09:52 PM
I'm sure we'll all still have PC's in three years time, what we're doing with them.... that'll be another story.

Toolz, probably watching on our wall plasma screens and switching from the web to TV and back.

Timon · 09-17-2003

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Originally posted by Dravyk@Sep 17 2003, 10:08 PM

Toolz, probably watching on our wall plasma screens and switching from the web to TV and back.

Why do we need to wait 3 years to do that??

BradShaw · 09-18-2003

Charlo is also a scammer IMHO.

http://www.gamblingmagazine.com/articles/s.../starnet357.htm

Hell Puppy · 09-18-2003

Let us not forget Xpics...

IMO they, along with Crescent, are probably two of the companies whose actions are most responsible for the billing climate we're in today.

During the Xpics hay day newbies were flooding the net, and it was like shooting fish in a barrel to get them to cough up a credit card number for "free" access to porn. Xpics had slick ads, slick tours and once they had that credit card number they'd slam that bad boy every month until you cancelled the card itself in most cases.

I doubt they were the first to shave, but they definitely popularized it! What did they top out at? 20 cents per click? I dont know what their real formula was, but I do know that at the time there was no other banner or ad that you could put in their place that could make more money consistently. This despite the shave. The checks were large and they showed up every week.

And there-in pretty much the entire industry's human nature is exposed. Virtually everyone sent traffic to Xpics in those days, most continued to do so even after it was obvious what was going on. Human nature makes it tough to cut your own income by say 50% to pull their ads and replace them with someone more honest.

It was easy to rationalize. It wasn't like spam or beastiality or anything like that because the webmaster drew no heat. All they had to do was keep cashing those checks that showed up every week like clockwork. Easy to tell yourself, hey, i'm just selling them traffic, none of my business what they do with it!

cj · 09-18-2003

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Originally posted by BradShaw@Sep 17 2003, 09:54 PM
Biggest scammers in the biz over the past IMHO include CE, Aussies (including about everyone Cj has ever worked for), Crescent, Babenet, and many more.

Surpised several of these have not been mentioned yet.

only one of the 2 aussies i've worked for was a 'scammer', and that lasted about as long as your marriage will ... good to see you are paying attention ... I didn't realize you cared!

being more successful than you doesn't make someone a scammer - especially considering the things you do these days are the same as the things the aussies did years ago ...

there's plenty of things for you to attack *me* with brad, no need to bring other people into it that you know nothing about!!

Rolo · 09-18-2003

"Behind every great fortune there is a crime. " - Honore de Balzac

Dravyk · 09-18-2003

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Originally posted by Timon@Sep 17 2003, 10:49 PM
Why do we need to wait 3 years to do that??

I like you too much, Timon, so don't make me suddenly hate you! Just don't say what I think you're going to say! :P

Opti · 09-18-2003

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Originally posted by BradShaw@Sep 18 2003, 02:32 PM
Charlo is also a scammer IMHO.

http://www.gamblingmagazine.com/articles/s.../starnet357.htm

Brad is also a scammer IMHO..

But I have no proof or any first hand knowledge... but i heard someone else say it once... and also he was too small time to bother mentioning in this thread I thought...

What did this guy do... take you for $7.50 Brad? maybe apply for a job writing advice columns for Ynot when you grow up..

(Did I see people posting somewhere that Brad wasn't going to be challenging for the resident fool anymore??)

Bex · 09-18-2003

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Originally posted by Toolz@Sep 17 2003, 01:22 PM
Nick,

The way Bex and I gamble can be more akin to "Helping pay for the toliets in the hotel" Though the Venetian may seem like a big heartless corporation if we didn't stop in and donate money to them there'd be no where to expell all the free booze they give you, it's a vicious circle.

Couldn't have put it better myself!

But it is is still damn fun.

Shok · 09-18-2003

I thought this thread was going to be about custom choppers :angry:

Last edited by Shok at Sep 18 2003, 06:06 AM

VooMan · 09-18-2003

Nah Shok, that's on the Discovery Channel...

Winetalk.com · 09-19-2003

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Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Sep 17 2003, 03:08 PM

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There is still a code of honor amoung most theives

Thank you ;-))

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Oh and Nick, I like you. I think you are one of the funnier, wittier people I know from the biz.... a lot like JoeE in many ways in my mind.

One thing this industry has given me, and I am not sure if its a good or bad thing is the ability to seperate personal and business views of people....

I like you too, Mike and I admire the way you run your business and conduct yourself.

For a sanctamonious prig you have done very well ;-)))

Maybe we could do an Oprano Crossfire show sometime with you on the right,Serge in the middle,and me in Bolivia ;-)))

fuck you, nicholas!!!!

I haven,t scammed ANYONE, even you you cum suckin scumbag!

if I seem to be too harsh,
its just a key board, you smelly prick!

Nickatilynx · 09-19-2003

ahahahahahahahaha

See, CJ!!!

Like water off a ducks ass!!!

The "smelly prick" bit was a tad harsh though!

Last edited by Nickatilynx at Sep 19 2003, 05:30 AM

Winetalk.com · 09-20-2003

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Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Sep 19 2003, 08:26 AM

The "smelly prick" bit was a tad harsh though!

I agree...on the surface, it looks like I know you more than I really do!

for the record:
I don,t know Nick THAT up close abd personal!!!!!

...and I NEVER even seen his dick!!!!! I have witnesses!!!!!!

09-17-2003	#57
BradShaw Members Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,216	Biggest scammers in the biz over the past IMHO include CE, Aussies (including about everyone Cj has ever worked for), Crescent, Babenet, and many more. Surpised several of these have not been mentioned yet. __________________ please report me to the IRS and get reward

09-18-2003	#60
BradShaw Members Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,216	Charlo is also a scammer IMHO. http://www.gamblingmagazine.com/articles/s.../starnet357.htm __________________ please report me to the IRS and get reward

09-18-2003	#63
Rolo Members Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Six Feet Under Posts: 2,150	"Behind every great fortune there is a crime. " - Honore de Balzac __________________ "Chaos is the law of nature, order is the dream of man." ~Henry B. Adams (Historian) 1838-1918

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Shok Members Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dallas Posts: 573	I thought this thread was going to be about custom choppers :angry: Last edited by Shok at Sep 18 2003, 06:06 AM __________________ Best looking asshole, I have the award to prove it! Need Reality Content? I got the goods, contact me! ICQ 1 4 7 9 9 0 5

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KK Members Respin bullshit press Your Comments Are Welcomed Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,581	I would guess that not one of the really big ones has been mentioned, aside from Crescent and Taves.

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09-18-2003	#61
Hell Puppy Fat Fucking Nobody Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,523	Let us not forget Xpics... IMO they, along with Crescent, are probably two of the companies whose actions are most responsible for the billing climate we're in today. During the Xpics hay day newbies were flooding the net, and it was like shooting fish in a barrel to get them to cough up a credit card number for "free" access to porn. Xpics had slick ads, slick tours and once they had that credit card number they'd slam that bad boy every month until you cancelled the card itself in most cases. I doubt they were the first to shave, but they definitely popularized it! What did they top out at? 20 cents per click? I dont know what their real formula was, but I do know that at the time there was no other banner or ad that you could put in their place that could make more money consistently. This despite the shave. The checks were large and they showed up every week. And there-in pretty much the entire industry's human nature is exposed. Virtually everyone sent traffic to Xpics in those days, most continued to do so even after it was obvious what was going on. Human nature makes it tough to cut your own income by say 50% to pull their ads and replace them with someone more honest. It was easy to rationalize. It wasn't like spam or beastiality or anything like that because the webmaster drew no heat. All they had to do was keep cashing those checks that showed up every week like clockwork. Easy to tell yourself, hey, i'm just selling them traffic, none of my business what they do with it!

09-19-2003	#70
Nickatilynx Banned Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Vancouver Canada Posts: 15,115	ahahahahahahahaha See, CJ!!! Like water off a ducks ass!!! The "smelly prick" bit was a tad harsh though! Last edited by Nickatilynx at Sep 19 2003, 05:30 AM