The French are being worked over...

[Mike AI]

This is just a start. With large mulsim population France is in real trouble. Check my posts from start of Iraq war. I predicted this would happen.

The French did not want to fight in Iraq, so now they have to fight in France.



Must be Bush's fault!!!

[DrGuile]

Im a little retarded, but explain to me the link behind police/racism/brutality, the perception of oppression, class war and Irak...

Were the LA riot due to immigrants and Irak war?






fyi, if you have no idea:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4407688.stm

[PornoDoggy]

It's not Bush's fault.

It has nothing to do with the war on terror.

It has nothing to do with the war in Iraq.

I wonder what French crackers are called?

[TheEnforcer]

I haven't followed closely what is going on over there but they certainly do have a problem with Muslim youth regardless of how it came about.

[PornoDoggy]

Originally Posted by TheEnforcer

I haven't followed closely what is going on over there but they certainly do have a problem with Muslim youth regardless of how it came about.

Reminds me of the 60s in urban areas of America.

Of course, those were blamed on outside agitators, because the lack of opportunity wouldn't cause anyone to react without someone making them do it.

Muslims - are they the new communists or the new niggers?

[DrGuile]

Originally Posted by PornoDoggy

Muslims - are they the new communists or the new niggers?

[TheEnforcer]

Originally Posted by PornoDoggy

Reminds me of the 60s in urban areas of America.

Of course, those were blamed on outside agitators, because the lack of opportunity wouldn't cause anyone to react without someone making them do it.

Muslims - are they the new communists or the new niggers?

Rioting isn't acceptable solution to any of the problems a group may have.

[PornoDoggy]

Originally Posted by TheEnforcer

Rioting isn't acceptable solution to any of the problems a group may have.

I'm not arguing that rioting is "acceptable", although I wonder how nice you would stay if non-violent means got you nothing after years and years and years.

Sometime the threat of violence is the most effective tool that advocates of non-violence have.

You think King would have been as effective without folks like Malcolm X and other black radicals in the background?

[JR]

Surprised it is taking the French Government this long to broker a surrender deal. Goodbye France... Hello Peoples Islamic Republic of Francistan!

[JR]

Originally Posted by PornoDoggy

Reminds me of the 60s in urban areas of America.

Of course, those were blamed on outside agitators, because the lack of opportunity wouldn't cause anyone to react without someone making them do it.

Muslims - are they the new communists or the new niggers?

there is a big difference.... blacks were treated and looked at as subhuman by others.. for no real reason other than skin color. in most countries in central asia and north africa, people tend to ACT subhuman. blacks were not walking around the NY ghettos executing 12 year old raped girls because they had a child out of wedlock or taking pics of their children dressed up as suicide bombers or forcing 10 year olds to fight wars.

all the news is pretty much saying its mostly kids doing this shit. i am sorry... but i am not willing to look at a bunch of kids running around burning down buildings, looting stores and burning cars and rationalize that behavior with some fantasy about their "political enlightment and recognizing the need for change" - i see it as a bunch of idiots acting exactly like the idiots others believe they are.

[Nickatilynx]

Originally Posted by Mike AI

This is just a start. With large mulsim population France is in real trouble. Check my posts from start of Iraq war. I predicted this would happen.

The French did not want to fight in Iraq, so now they have to fight in France.



Must be Bush's fault!!!

Mike's predictions...

1 for 1249863356

The "Bush is right on this" predictions really let messed your numbers.

Oh ,the WMD I know is technically only one wrong prediction but as it was such a big one I rated it a 1,000.

[Mike AI]

This is Buff, housesitting for Mike AI.

I just wanted to say that there are no riots in France. There is only a liberation movement being waged by Freedom Fighters against French Imperial Agression.

[Mike AI]

Were riots in LA "Well organized?"

Rioting in French suburbs 'well organized'
Thu Nov 03 2005 14:56:34 ET

French Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy said Thursday that the riots in several Paris suburbs over the previous night were "not spontaneous" but rather "well organized."

"What we saw in the department of Seine-Saint-Denis overnight was not spontaneous, it was perfectly organized. We are looking into by whom and how," Sarkozy told French news channel i-tele.

The interior minister also said the government would not allow "troublemakers, a bunch of hoodlums, think they can do whatever they want" in the country.

A force of 1,000 police were assigned late Thursday to Seine-Saint-Denis, following the previous night of violence which affected about half of the 40 towns in the department, mostly communities of immigrants from Africa, officials said.

What is happening in Holland? Lodonstan? Other parts of Europe?

I understand this is just the lower classes revolting, but do not beleive for a second that some people will use this to further the objectives of islamic fascism.

The invasion of France has already been finished, the landing force is 100 times larger then the allies fielded during d-day. Of course this time the defenders are the French and not the Germans so I suspect victory is assured.



Nick - have you checked the Candian policies on muslim immigration?

We don't want you Van Goghed....

[Dravyk]

Originally Posted by Mike AI

The French did not want to fight in Iraq, so now they have to fight in France.



Must be Bush's fault!!!

Nope. It's Karma's fault!




... I just hope we don't have to save their ungrateful asses again. I say if it comes to that -- we don't.

France should win one battle some day and earn the right to exist as a nation. And if they can't do that, oh well.

[domtheboy]

Originally Posted by Dravyk

... I just hope we don't have to save their ungrateful asses again. I say if it comes to that -- we don't.

France should win one battle some day and earn the right to exist as a nation. And if they can't do that, oh well.

[PornoDoggy]

Nobody said anything about the rioters being politically enlightened.

The blacks doing the rioting in urban America in the 60s were not the same ones getting their heads caved in for trying to vote.

In the cycle of change, this is normal. This kind of violence is nothing new.

Extremists on both sides will try to use it to their own advantage - Islamic fundamentalists will use it to urge jihad, bigots will use it to justify their bigotry.

[JR]

Originally Posted by PornoDoggy

Nobody said anything about the rioters being politically enlightened.

The blacks doing the rioting in urban America in the 60s were not the same ones getting their heads caved in for trying to vote.

In the cycle of change, this is normal. This kind of violence is nothing new.

Extremists on both sides will try to use it to their own advantage - Islamic fundamentalists will use it to urge jihad, bigots will use it to justify their bigotry.

i guess i can agree with you there.

[Mike AI]

I see the French deployed one helicopter, I guess this will be called "Blackhawk down in Paris" I would pay to see this movie!!



No islamacist invovled? Hmmm maybe you be the call.

PD - have you read the August edition of Foreign Affairs Journal? I am sure you have a subscription you know so much. Pull it out yuor closet and read the article "Europe angry Mulsims" - it may clear things up. http://www.foreignaffairs.org/

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051105/...ots_blame_dc_1

AULNAY-SOUS-BOIS, France (Reuters) - With every night that France's rundown suburbs burn, officials grow increasingly convinced that drug traffickers and Islamist militants are using frustrated youths to challenge law and order here.



Keep sticking your heads in the ground.... It is entertaining!!

[Mike AI]

PD your comments about mulsims being commies or niggers - you are wrong - they are worse then both, and it goes back for a few thousand years.

Just because a battle is dormant for awhiles does not mean it will always remain that way.

Read your history - Take the time and read the book The Pirate Coast: Thomas Jefferson, the First Marines and the Secret Mission of 1805 by Richard Zacks.

Jefferson was the first American President to push for regime change in the middle east ( well North Africa). The US has been at war with these animals since the founding of our country.

Who would have thought Bush is taking after Jefferson? PD I am sure you know about this little tid bit of history.... being so wise and knowledgable about everything.

The battle of islam and rest of the world has been raging off and on for years - its getting hot again.

[PornoDoggy]

Well, Mike (or Buff, if that's still you) - I think you answered my question.

First of all, I think that trying to claim we have been at war with Islamic fundamentalists “since Jefferson” requires the sort of mental gymnastics that would cripple anyone with any structure or substance to their brain.

Second, I did not say that there was no involvement by Islamic fundamentalists in the Paris rioting. I don't doubt there is some involvement. There are probably all kinds of fringe groups involved as well. That does not mean that the people torching a car or looting a shop are followers of any of the groups; it also does not mean the same conditions of civil unrest would not exist if the Islamic groups were not agitating.

I will say that the conditions of an underclass generally make them ripe for exploitation by the likes of Islamic fundamentalists, communists, anarchists, whateverthefuckists (including Christian missionaries, in some places). The condition of the Islamic underclass in France is not new news. It's been going on since they allowed unfettered immigration of their house niggers from the colonies back in the 50s and 60s.

The danger comes in attributing all of the resentment to the works of Islamic fundamentalists. It is the nice, simple, kind of package that has great appeal to weak and small minds. Particularly, it is the prime focus of 'bigots us[ing] it to justify their bigotry.' It reminds me very much of the way the crackers in Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia and/or Louisiana attributed all Knee-grow disenchantment to the work of “Communists, Jews, and outside agitators” back in the 50s and 60s. (Those people [sic] were quite fond of dismissing all black people as animals too.)

Again – thanks for answering my question.

[Mike AI]

What shitty coverage in the US on this...

Guess the main stream media needs to cover for 2 of their favorite causes france and terrorists.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2005/cover110405.htm

Interesting article from Canada. I have been to Arhos... hope those nice muslim boys don't damage to much.

This is just like watts, these are the new negros and commies.

[Mike AI]

I guess the muslims in denmark are upset about a cartoon.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051104...n_051104185311

Wait till they see the "Piss Mohammad" that will be done and sponsored by the NEA.

PD can we credit you are artist??

[PornoDoggy]

I personally think that U.S. coverage of the ongoing situation in France has been pretty crappy - but not much more crappy than U.S. coverage of most anything else, including the war in Iraq.

I don't happen to subscribe to the opinion that it's somehow related to a conspiracy to "cover" for the French or the terrorists, however. Perhaps that's because I haven't had a lobotomy or didn't need private tutoring to learn to tie my shoes, or I'm just not "in the know."

By the way, cocksucker ... I let my subscription to Foreign Affairs lapse some years ago, and that link cost me a lot of money. I didn't mind the subscription costs so much, but fuck - I used up an entire black printer cartridge on my first visit to their website.

[Dravyk]

Probably the US coverage sucks on France is because .... it's France?

Just a thought.

Seriously though, this is why it's always good to add BBC News to one's info watching sources.

[Dale_Ryan]

I thought that issue aint really religious or racially motivated just like most people say. It's more of a chaos brought about by worsening economic condition of the people living on those affected areas.