Serge it was actually only 8. I was mistaken.


Mike AI
********************

this is LIE!!!!!!!
I have Brad's logs to prove there were 9!!!!
Let me ask Emi's permission and if she says it's OK,
I'll post it!

MikeAI is a LIER! he had 9! sign ups!
Serge

Yes, on 800 first page hits.

Maybe since you are saying I shave, I should threaten to sue like a kid!

Keep it up, and lawsuits it is. Not to mention deli meats.
Brad Shaw

Serge it was actually only 8. I was mistaken.


Mike AI

i think i was wrong. he must be at least 3 payments behind on his Hummer. :-((
JR
*********************

JR,
if your program made 9 sign ups where others made 143...you'd be mentally unstable also
;-)))
Serge

I see you can not go one day without bringing up kk's name. Weakness on your part.
*******************************

Holy Shit,
do I have to go K_ on her, like if I were in Hebrew School????
I'll have much more fun addressing her as Mrs Shaw!
;-)))))
Serge

Mike, do you, or do you not have a pattern of making anon posts against people. Not just funny ones?

Since you have the "logs", why dont you tell us more info about who posted that post. NO bs info though please.
Brad Shaw

Serge, since when are KK and I one?
**********************************

since I saw you both on the couch in my house...
you 2 look cute!
Serge

Brad you said the anon posts below ( who says they are even anon) are from the owners of Oprano. This is false, I told you it was false. This is the only issue.

What has happeend in the past would be a moot point.

Keep up Brad...


Mike AI

Mspice,
hahahaahahhaha,
you captured the moment!
;_))

http://www.herbalpartners.com/indexr.asp


"There are often some "interesting" debates, but if you read between the lines
there is something to be learned by all."
;_)))
Serge

Serge, since when are KK and I one?

I see you can not go one day without bringing up kk's name. Weakness on your part.

That is only the 4th error you have made today.
Brad Shaw

Brad,
tell her I know who was behind ANON making posts about MikeAI's illegitimate child.

People have tongues, you know.
Serge

I like the deli meat idea, I am hungry...

Some pastrami would be nice!

YUM YUM!


Mike AI

So you have made no anon posts that personally attacked any figures in this business?

Friends do not sue friends, or maybe they do;-)

Threatening lawsuits is kid play, you taking lessons from Evan now?
Brad Shaw

Serge,

Not sure if will help the afore alluded to financial woes, but I did this just for you....

http://www.herbalpartners.com/indexr.asp


Mspice All Faiths Welcome!

If you want to turn this into a blood bath, we can do that.


Mike AI
*************************

hey,
I categorically refuse to bring her periods into this!!!!

Brad,
do you mind if I start quoting KK's ICQ?
ask her permission and I'll have enough for 3 law suits
Serge

Brad I have made anon posts in the past, as jokes. But there have been none by me today. That is what the issue would be...

As far as peeing, there would be no C&D - just a court summons. I doubt the court would look friendly upon your dog peeing on it, since it is THEIR document not mine.

Brad step away from the keyboard... do yourself a favor.


Mike AI

I think people should throw deli meats at Serge and Mike!

May I suggest kosher salami?

It may knock some sense into you guys.

(btw, for the attorneys, the above were not intended as anti-Semitic remarks)
Brad Shaw

Brad post 76374 is slanderous. You are making flase accusation that could possibly hurt the owners of Oprano. I suggest you refrain from making posts making false accusation as fact.

Mike AI
******************************

MikeAI,
I also have report at Cliffside Park Police Depratment from somebody named Brad Shaw who claimed I try to kill him.

THIS is slander!
I only promissed to punch his nose
;-))
Serge

Brad do what you need to do...

If you want to turn this into a blood bath, we can do that.


Mike AI

So you are threatening to sue me for saying to make anon posts? I have never been sued, just a C&D that snuggles peed on. She will pee on yours as well.

I have icq logs of you bragging about anon posts. Shall I post them since you keep running your mouth?

Sue away!
Brad Shaw

Brad, you are playing with fire. You are my friend. But I have a legal obligation to my partner and to Oprano. I think you have already been sued before on similair issues.

I promise you Sig and Kim Tran would NOT send a C&D, we all know they are jokes. We would file a suit first, then negotiate from there.

So make sure when you make a serious post, you haev the ability to back it up.

Now if you want to just play, we can have fun.... until Mommy calls you in for the night...


Mike AI

i think i was wrong. he must be at least 3 payments behind on his Hummer. :-((
JR

Maybe I need to fire up the old laptop icq logs reagarding anon posts?


Brad Shaw

Stop posting anon and I will stop making such posts.

Do you deny making anon posts?
Brad Shaw

Brad post 76374 is slanderous. You are making flase accusation that could possibly hurt the owners of Oprano. I suggest you refrain from making posts making false accusation as fact.


Mike AI

Brad,
it traces to the trailer park in North Carolina....
;-(((
send them C & D,
need an address?
Serge

Nice to see the Oprano built-in anons that can be directly traced backed to Oprano owners.


Brad Shaw

Janice,
lay off Kimmy Kim,
1) she only plays antisemite when she is drunk
2) opposites attract,
and I belive that KK does more to the betterment of Jewish People than Brad anyway.
Serge

surge brad is so stoopid that he has not even picked up on the fakt that kimmy kim is a anti-semite. she hates judes. she must have piked it up in the trailer park she was raized in the south. how do you say, white trash?
Janice

Brad,
MikeAI took the best from both sides, so it owned by 2 1/2 jews,
]and don't forget to add another 1/4 for being from "the bayou"
;-))

how many jews in your household?
Serge

Serge, Oprano is owned by 1.5 jews, so I understand with your frustration of stupid jews reflecting poorly on the tribe.
Brad Shaw

2001 Internet Fraud Statistics
--------------------------
Mike, you forgot

.000000000639%
Brad constantly pretending to care about Oprano ad revenue.

It looks like someone here is two payments behind on a Hummer.

JR

Brad,
you gotta listen to "mommy" more often, she is smarter than you and hopefully some smarts would rub off her:
Pissing with serge is somethoing you can never win,
and it has nothing to do with me being much more intellegent than you are.
The true reason is:
I have time and dedication for it and you don't.
So, save yourself aggrevation and showing everybody a fool you are,
I hate when industry makes fun of Jews,
crawl where you came from and save us all some dignity,
STUPID JEW image has negative effect on entire Jewish faith.
Serge

2001 Internet Fraud Statistics

2000 Top 10 Frauds Jan.-Oct. 2001 Top 10 Frauds
Online Auctions 78% Online Auctions 63%
General Merchandise Sales 10% General Merchandise Sales 11%
Internet Access Services 3% Nigerian Money Offers 9%
Work-At-Home 3% Internet Access Services 3%
Advance Fee Loans 2% Information Adult Services 3%
Computer Equipment/Soft. 1% Computer Equipment/Soft. 2%
Nigerian Money Offers 1% Work-At-Home 2%
Information Adult Services 1% Advance Fee Loans 1%
Credit Card Issuing .5% Credit Card Issuing .6%
Travel/Vacations .5% Business Opportunities/franchises .4%

.....................
I don't know if this will frame up right but anyways...
for Cyberglide..
from:
http://www.fraud.org/internet/intset.htm

MikeFold Laurie Dhue Fan Club

Serge, stop sucking your own dick.
Brad Shaw
***********************

and may I ask you where did you pick up this high school business frazing?
Serge

MarcDe,
don't listen to Brad and STOP sending wires!!!! Don't be a show off! Your $30.78 prepayment 'till year end is NOT helping us we are still in the hole for $21,378.96
and unless we get Brad back -
Oprano gonna seize to exist by June
;-(((

anybody wanna bid for Oprano server now,
or you think webmaster charity auction is our way out of bancrupcy?
Serge

Serge, stop sucking your own dick.
Brad Shaw

10-15k?!?!?! Are you CRAZY - Serge says Oprano is only making $2,000 a month, and after all expenses he sends me a monthly check for $128.38

HAHA
**********************

are you questioning my accounting??????
so you know:
this month we won't even have that!
Brad Shaw cancelled on us and we are in a hole for $23,785.68.
Please send John your share of expences or deal with ScottPB,
RU Carders, SEC and Brad's Bunch!
;-)))
Serge

Brad,
it's gotta hurt thinking about that all you can do to serge is bite his dick while you are sucking it...
sharpen your teeth!
;-)))
Serge

yes, the truth about Shaw Industries losing quarter set me free...
LOL!
Serge

I see Serge got out of his depositions today with the S.E.C. ?
Brad Shaw

What happened?

Render $38 per free signup - are you qualified to be an affiliate?
***********************************

I don't know about MikeAI,
but with me the wine for Xmass made a trick.
I am recovering alcoholic and every time I get wine,
it just throws me light years back.
Serge

siccash?

9 signups! haha

So Brad, stop surfing the boards and start making your program better!
Mike AI
***************************

Brad,
don't listen to anybody,
fuck siccash,
you have more important things to do,
you are in charge of raising the new generation of porn masters,
and this task is MORE important than anything else!
Serge

MikeAI - did I miss something, when did You/Serge's relationship with Brad Shaw go sour? What happened?

Render $38 per free signup - are you qualified to be an affiliate?

Hypocrites R US is what oprano should be called;-)
Brad Shaw
****************************

Brad,
I don't care what anybody says,
but I belive you are a perfect father to any child just few years younger than you are and YOU can teach them values like nobody else in this business.
:-)
Serge

Brad,
""Guess the $10-$15k you make a month from Oprano""

Holy shit!!!!Thats Netpond money!!!!

;))))))
Nick

Good Morning :)
Nick

It is Meni, I am just an employee.


Mike AI

I thought Oprano was a non profit webmaster resource
Meni (The Golden Tongue) Check out XXX ATM

WAAAA-HOOOO!!! an extra nickle! thanks Mike! can you say "SuperSize"!?!
Edd (Opranautical Engineer) I've got wheels of polished steel...

hehe Aww, that's the nicest thing you ever said about me, Mike. :-)))

Ok, bring on the next act with the transexual midgets!!

Dravyk All Of 'Em

Oh and I want to congradulate Brad for being one of the first people on Oprano to BAIT himself...


Mike AI

Brad, $138 might not be a lot to you, but for me its a car payment ( 1995 geo metro).

Serge says I have to make at least 20 posts a day to earn my money!

I get bonuses when I get Players like you posting with me!

Ed- we got Brad roped in... You will get nickel bonus this month!


Mike AI

Jason's Sixers Vs. my Celtics, hmmm

by the way, XXX ATM just added Cybererotica to the exit consoles and let you pass your traffic right to your Follow-Me account. So ARS, MaxCash and CE, hmmm, sound good?
Meni (The Golden Tongue) Check out XXX ATM

Drav, that is why you are a special guest and fit in so well!


JERRY JERRY JERRY JERRY
Mike AI

Mike, if you want to really be rich, wasting your time running your mouth like Serge is not the way.

But what do I know, I am on credit.

Brad Shaw

Mike -
Thanks for bursting my bubble! Now I know where that mysterious 38 cents sitting by my keyboard comes from every month! I thought it was the Internet Fairy! :(

Edd (Opranautical Engineer) I've got wheels of polished steel...

LMAO! Looking at the Brad and Mike posts (not to mention others, especially those involving goats, AOLers from Texas, and more) it makes me wonder ...

If Oprano were a television show, would it be called "Jerry Springer"? :-)))

Dravyk All Of 'Em

Sell soul? Come on Brad many people said I never had one!

I am not rich like you, I still live on my moms porch!

10-15k?!?!?! Are you CRAZY - Serge says Oprano is only making $2,000 a month, and after all expenses he sends me a monthly check for $128.38

HAHA
Mike AI

Mailer business must not be so good for you to have to sell your soul like Serge on Oprano;-)

Guess the $10-$15k you make a month from Oprano must be worth it though!
Brad Shaw

nah it was more then 800 hits Brad.... that is why I mentioned he possible concept of shaving.... hits... signups... whatever...

I have gotten to know my mailers pretty well. Remember I have been running adultmail.net for 4+ years. I know what mailers can do...


Mike AI

Hi All,

Interesting conversation regarding the dependance on the middle east for fossil fuels.

As far as the Alaska issue, IMO, that '10 years' someone quoted could be cut much shorter if the US would actually hire more people. Hmmm, a step towards being more fuel independant AND create jobs for US citizens? Say it isn't so!

Also, Here's a quote I found about the 'reappearance' of electric cars and the reaction of the US government and the Oil Companies:

"Inventor Rory Johnson developed, designed and operated a 525 HP fuel cell motor with a range of 100,000 miles that operated on two pounds of deuterium and gallium. The government attempted to block his research, apparently, because of the threat to gas taxes. Oil companies didn't want it because it threatened their monopoly. Johnson was run out of his Illinois shop to California where he died under mysterious circumstances. Similar stories on other inventors appear frequently in the literature."

Things have changed since then, and government seems 'somewhat' more supportive of new types of power for cars, especially in places like California where this is a high level of air pollution.

But I thought it was interesting to see how the government, and oil companies contriubuted to the state we are in at this point. It's all about money.. (surprise surprise)

But I would like to think that those in power see now, after Sept. 11, US production of fossil fuels is well worth the cost for fuel independance.

Just my twisted 2 canadian cents ;o)


GiGi CashQuest 2

So you did 50+ signups off of 800 hits?

Those are some impressive conversions!

SUre you did not borrow some of Serge's RU friends carding software?
Brad Shaw

even shaven that pussy would still be ugly

it's hopeless, just shoot her ..


Cybrglide

"Somebody buy her a razor"
AAArrghhh!! My eyes!
Robert

I'm doing TGP reviews and it's just too damn early for pics like this,
http://www.club-hairy.com/natural/thing31.jpg
Somebody buy her a razor or something.

Cleo (.)~(.) What the fuck is this?

HEHE I understand Brad, I am learning the ropes.

However, we mailed it to 3 sites since yours.

One program did 53 signsups, one did 45, and casting-couch did 58.


Mike AI

MIke, when you mail day in and day out, lists get old with diminished results. Maybe nick can give you course in mailing.

BTW, I am happy to take mail traffic as long as are few complaints. I just do not call myself spamwealth;-)
Brad Shaw

Brad you begged for the "spam" remember? Guess you needed signups...

I did not want to say you were shaving, I figured you were having issues...

But mailer before sent to sicccash and afterards have produced MUCH more TRAFFIC - and MANY more SIGNUPS.

I figured you were having problems... was not going to point it out... but...


Mike AI

Amateur Beaver 884 643 8 1:80

Mike, not my fault that only 800 of your surfers from your mailing clicked the links, 1:100 raw , 1:80 unique is not too shabby.
Brad Shaw

Mike, maybe my guys shut off that acocunt for spam? Or was that your other account that brought in all those complaints?
Brad Shaw

HAHA Brad I think you are projecting your lose ethics and morals with mine.

You just do not learn do you...

I suggest you spend time trying to revitalize siccash. Cause right nows its sucking balls.

I sent a mailer that has done MINIMALLY 40 signups per mailer ( with CE it did over 120 signups), what did I get with siccash?

9 signups! haha

So Brad, stop surfing the boards and start making your program better!
Mike AI

Colin - unfortunately Spambot's base Asmovian protocols didn't take - they conflicted with his primary programming and had to be removed! And my own misanthropic tendencies cropped up in his neural net design... I guess thats just the price we pay for autonomy! ;)
Edd (Opranautical Engineer) I've got wheels of polished steel...

Wonder how long it will be until Mike and Serge sell advertising to a program promoting underage non nude sites or furry stuff.

I can see it now, they will be touting them as the last cash cow in this business. Hypocrites R US is what oprano should be called;-)
Brad Shaw

Important correction on my post below about processing:



Certain processors are PSP's....not necessarily all 3rd Party's.
Mike AI

Yeah Vegas Lee we are having some databse issues - should be solved in a few minutes!


Mike AI

The only thing I have to say about
the MasterCard article is this:

If you want to make more money on
your checks by accepting US and
Canadian checks with lower returns
and many other benefits hit me up.

If you are a new customer and want to
move your business to WTS I will do
your next months processing for 2.5%!




Wig A wise man feareth and departeth from evil; but the fool rageth and is confident. Proverbs 14:16

Thanks for the info Mike.

Glad to see I am not the one that broke the board.

;-))
VegasLee

Vegas Lee, it is hard to tell just from an article. I do not have much confidence in reporters understanding the nueances of technical issues.

I just finished speaking to an offical at a top processor - a person I really respect. This is what they told me:

"i would say that the new regs may affect those who are solely aggregates, but that PSP's are exempt from the current regs."

Third Party processers online are not JUST an aggregate. They are a PSP (payment service provider) the current regs to not effect them.

the BIG point in all of this is that MasterCard wants to be able to monitor merchants individually whenever possible.

So this is good news. Especially to those of us who have their own merchant accounts.


Mike AI

Hey Mike,

I was reading that, funny how they mention pay pal and processors like that but nothing about the Ibill, ccbill, etc. type processors. I had heard rumors of something like this and asked about it in AZ but everyone said it was "rumors".

Would be nice if people would advise us of the important parts of our business... collecting the money.

The way you read it does it effect all types of 3rd party processors?

Lee
VegasLee Lets get the facts for once

if I remember correctly didn't auction sites have higher fraud than porn sites.

more bullshit ....


Cybrglide

http://www.usatoday.com/money/tech/2002-04-19-paypal.htm

This is major.

Anyone from processing companies want to speak up and give us some insight into this?


Mike AI

The change is likely aimed at porn and gaming sites that have higher occurrences of credit card fraud and identity theft, Litan says. One in 20 online consumers were victimized by credit card fraud last year, she says.
-------------------------------------------

and much higher occurrences of so called "friendly fraud"
"I swear honey I have no idea how that got on our bill, I didn't join no porn site."

ohhh fuck, don't get me started ...

Cybrglide

http://www.usatoday.com/money/tech/2002-04-19-paypal.htm

Now this is interesting!
Moose

R. Kelly Got Some Splainin To Do Lucy!

http://www.opranoplus.com

Board Whore is the belle of the ball over there on GFY I see.


mutt

http://www.msnbc.com/local/wtvj/A1167434.asp

Good article - looks like ccbill might be losing what is left of their business!


Mike AI

The criticism of http://bigplayers.com on GFY is pretty damn funny. Those morons think that programs like Lensmans are the best around. While lensment fucks them in the ass.

Then the 2 ring leaders over there Board Whore, and Clueless are jealous and threatened by a successful program being run by a person who has made more money in the business before they were even in it.


Mike AI

First the drilling an Alaska is a joke. The place that is going to be drilled has nothign special in it. The people of ALASKA want drilling to go on, because they understand this. The people who think other wise are falling for democrate, liberal, eviromentalist propaganda!


Mike AI

Edd .. I this this should be covered in Asimov's Rules of Robotics (c 1940's)


1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.

2. A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.


Colin

If you have a weak stomach,
dont click this link.
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/war/2000/01/05_2.mpeg
voodooman (Do you TRUST that I'm straight?)

Mutt - Thanks, man - that's GREAT! Now I've got a HORNY Spambot running all over the office looking for his woman! ;)
Any of you dog owners got any ideas on how to stop a robot from humping your leg?

Edd (Opranautical Engineer) BAD SPAMBOT! BAD!!

http://www.opranoplus.com/spambot.html


mutt Spreading News And Horseshit Since 1973!

thanks grimm master finder of time wasting websites!

grimm is a jew? i did not know that. that is weird and wacky stuff.

Oplus News
***********

Teen Model Site Owner In Jail On Child Porn Charges

http://www.opranoplus.com

Remembering Penthouse Fondly

Coping With Pay Per Click SE Traffic Fraud

there isn't any way to cope with it, buy that shit and you get what you paid for. If you can make a profit with it all the more power to you.

That biz is nastier than this biz ever was.
mutt Spreading News And Horseshit Since 1973!

God I love you Push! ;-)))


bpj (NO 3rd party CC risk!) Can I get an AMEN! ???

IBILL CATHY

No Comment on buying business at 7%?

No Comment on 20 Million in Fines by you Bank

No Comment on being 10 months in Visa Fine Program.

Are these facts true are not.
***********************************

I am not Cathy,
but from what I heard this morning
talking to God All Mighty:

1) BULLSHIT

2) TRUE

3) GOD is too busy to dealing with Mastrcard prayers and just doesn't know.

Everybody:
PRAISE THE LORD FOR....
checks online
;-))
Serge

Cathy,
please add this to your
Q and A list:

"MasterCard is changing the rule that allows online retailers to accept credit card payments through such popular services as PayPal, to protect financial institutions and card holders from fraud and identity theft, USA Today reported.
Unless a settlement is reached, on May 1 retailers and other mom-and-pop operations that could not otherwise afford to participate directly in MasterCard's network could miss out on sales from the nation's No. 2 online credit card, the paper reported. Additionally, MasterCard holders could have a harder time using their cards at sites that use PayPal and similar services, Gartner analyst Avivah Litan told USA Today."

What are Ibill's plans for May 1st when MC will no longer process internet transactions?

MikeAI,
aren't you happy NOW that Oprano accepts e-gold????
;-)))
Serge

bpj,

Ro, yes
the bike, no

:)
Hank D Soaking wet money

IBILL CATHY

No Comment on buying business at 7%?

No Comment on 20 Million in Fines by you Bank

No Comment on being 10 months in Visa Fine Program.

Are these facts true are not.

Just email me a link on Beasty stuff
DEEP THROAT IBILL PROBLEMS

http://squirtscash.com/cleanbike004.jpg
******************************
Nice piece Push! Can I have a ride??? 8^))) hahaha

It is important to diversify and spread risk - not just into other indsutries but across processors.
Mike AI
*************************************
Truer words could not be spoken! ACHdebit.com! NOW more than EVER!

Good Day Oprano!

bpj (NO 3rd party CC risk!) Checks, just Checks and nuttin but Checks!

I see....that sucks! cockholsters are everywhere!
Serge (Males4free and Males4free Gold, new from INNOVATORS!)