If this e-mail really came from Evan and xpays to Vick and Little C.....
I listened to Evan speak the other day how he is protecting the interest of his vendors and his comapny and that is why he is sending his lawyers out. That if there is a slow down in his business it is due to people like me talking on the boards.
bascily I get the impression that Evan wants to hold "US" respponsible for his summer slow down... When business slows down a little, I guess he is not to blame it must be other people... So I have a feeling he is going to try and hang his failures upon "US" in a court of law.
I have also spoekn to people who have and do do business with Evan, and I beleive HE is the reason that many people are unfocomfortable doing business with xpays.
I do not know whether is has been the drugs, the new found money, or what but some people cannot handle their own success.
It is time that we rally together and not let corporate bullies coerce and blackmail us andour friends.
Silly, silly, silly.... Sticks N stones may break my bones.... you know the rest....
If you walk the walk, and talk the talk.... people know what kind of person you are.
Sharpie Webmasters against Child Abuse
Wed, 01 Aug - 12:15:00 65.29.86.14 Post #: 7299
somebody needs to sue that spamming dirtbag (is there ANYone who doesn't know who I'm talking about when I say that?) and his wigger cronies for harassment..
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How hard would it have been for someone to read Vick's posts, then spend $7 for a domain name (GiveTech.org), then send out that ridiculous extortion letter written in Evans name...
truth is stranger than fiction...
but if Evan does acknowledge that he sent that letter, it makes my entire board post invalid.
Please notice one of the main full size static banners missing now as the month has started, that is thanks to Evan. This company and person was a influenced by threats, frankly I was suprised since this company/person has been respecte for being a "major player"
I have really tried to settle this, I have tried to let cooler heads prevail, I have tried to expalin the boards are a place for blowing off steam and talking smack. I have reached out, only now to see my friends attacked without warrant.
Well guys, you know I really tried to reach out to Evan. I had friends of mine tell me he is a good guy, and once we met we would like each other. That things were just a big misunderstanding.
If Evan sent out this letter, then I am going to have to back out of the golf game and of course he will not be able to play with my putter or balls.
Vick is one of the most honest, hard working, CARING people in this business I know. He is not a shit stirrer or rabble rouser - he is a business man to the truest sense. He has unbeleiveable ethics, and a great work ethic. I am very proud to consider him one of my friends.
Little C has done nothing that I know of but be sweet, kind and flirtatous. She has built up a business over years that have made men jealous of her success. She has never uttered a negative word about anyone. She is a class act all the way.
I will have more to say in a little bit, I want to cross some I's and dont some T's first.
I think it may be time to strike back.... when someone starts to step across a certain line, it is time to fight fire with fire.
ya know, i dont know evan from mr rodgers..but this is blackmail/extrotion(sp)!
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I suggest you make a sizeable tax deductable donation to the new Non-Profit charity we setup which is called "GiveTech.org" when the site goes live next week.
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not the kind of outfit I would EVER do any biz with!
dantheman
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Those were my immediate thought too Dan. extortion plain and simple.
When the first round of C&D's came out, everyone laughed it off, or had their dogs piss on them, and supposedly D$ helped to bring peace.
Well, Evan has yet to publicly acknowledge anything peaceful and now this absolutely asinine threat.
Evan, I don't know you, but from an objective opinion you're an asshole.
Use your time and money more constructively to improve your business. Yes, you get publicity this way, but I think it's going to backfire on you.
There are plenty of lurkers on this board. These are the resellers that you want to push your program, most of them are not big players and if I was one of them looking for a program to sell, I don't think I would jump on a company that is so quick to threaten lawsuits. I'd be afraid that if I had a problem with xpays in anyway and went to the boards to air it, I'd end up on the receiving end of a legal hassle.
You think that you're a player and the other big players can take it, but you're forgetting about all the little guys, these are the guys that keep affilliate programs running. These are the guys that recommend programs to all their friends on other boards. And if you think that they don't read this board, you are very mistaken.
I hang out on lots of boards and I have never seen anyone recommend xpays to anyone. Why do you think that is?
IMHO, you're an asshole who will end up shooting himself in the foot.
Yes, I've called you an asshole twice. I'll be expecting my extortion letter shortly.
Wed, 01 Aug - 11:45:30 24.180.171.175 Post #: 7290
Vick - hihihi - you seem to work for me..grin***
I never paid you!!!!...hihihihi
Are you a volunteer...hihihi
Vick,..my laywers are on this the first step he will take into the netherlands as soon as he arrives on the airport he is on legal ground in the netherlands meaning he is mine!!! LittleC.not fun
Wed, 01 Aug - 11:37:13 213.239.140.229 Post #: 7289
I suggest you make a sizeable tax deductable donation to the new Non-Profit charity we setup which is called "GiveTech.org" when the site goes live next week
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Can we get this in the Morons says hall of shame?
I'm the only Vick I know
I am not associated with Interclimax or Forrest in any way
That is not to say anything negative about them. I personally think that Little C has a great business mind.
I did ask some amusing QUESTIONS in public forums that were satirical during a pissfest
They were not insulting comments
Evan, if you, your attorneys or anyone else wishes to pursue this further with me on an individual basis please post an email address or phone number for me to reply to
Also please allow me to apologize to Little C, Forrest and Interclimax for you having to take any grief from my satirical questions
Wed, 01 Aug - 11:25:30 24.180.171.175 Post #: 7286
Whoa
Time out on the playing field
I'm the only Vick I know
I am not associated with Interclimax or Forrest in any way
That is not to say anything negative about them. I personally think that Little C has a great business mind.
I did ask some amusing QUESTIONS in public forums that were satirical during a pissfest
They were not insulting comments
Evan, if you, your attorneys or anyone else wishes to pursue this further with me on an individual basis please post an email address or phone number for me to reply to
Also please allow me to apologize to Little C, Forrest and Interclimax for you having to take any grief from my satirical questions
Wed, 01 Aug - 11:25:30 24.180.171.175 Post #: 7285
Well, today is August 1st. So we are down to the wire:
1. Hotel reservations need to be made immediately - 305 - 538 - 2000
2. Online signups can only be made until August 10. So, all you procrastinators, get it done today. It will cost you $25 more at the door. It also helps with planning, if we know who is coming!
3. We are now half way for the Webmasters aginst Child Abuse Charity Auction. http://www.cybernetexpo.com/auction/ The total at this time is $79,285. Remember, we only have time to auction 50 items. We could use some computer related items, like cameras, burners, etc.... even maybe a Lean Mean Machine so Snoops will have something to bid on :-)
4. You have 15 days to signup for the Charity dinner, so you can bid on these great items. We need to let the hotel know - how many will be attending.
5. As far as Airline reservations - This is my new favorite travel site - check it out - then go to the homepage of the airline & see if you can do better. Most times I have not been able to. https://www.orbitz.com/
6. We have one banner location left in the hall that leads to registration & the exhibit hall - $750. We still have a couple spots left in The Workshops room, where many newbies will be attending "Newbie BootCamp." These are $500 . First come - first served.
7. In the exhibit hall we have one 10 x 10 - one 10 x 15 & one 10 x 20. Contact us right away if you are thinking of a booth. DharpieYa snoze.... ya lose ... hahaha
Wed, 01 Aug - 11:19:51 65.29.86.14 Post #: 7284
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ya know, i dont know evan from mr rodgers..but this is blackmail/extrotion(sp)!
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I suggest you make a sizeable tax deductable donation to the new Non-Profit charity we setup which is called "GiveTech.org" when the site goes live next week.
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not the kind of outfit I would EVER do any biz with!
"look up the difference between ethics and morals"
SOOO...We're into the Ethically moral now are we..or is it the Moriality of ethics...what next a debate on ...."Safe Sex-Life saver or perverse conspiracy";)))
JohnIP Endeavor to persevere !!!!;)))
Wed, 01 Aug - 11:11:28 38.37.73.9 Post #: 7281
Hello everybody,
Sometimes the boards turn into jerry Springer...
Now I make public the following e-mail I received today.
Unfortunately Vick who seems to work for interclimax??? I have no clue who he is..
Normally - I think you all know I never put personal issues on the boards..
But, now someone is touching my baby and my baby is interclimax!!!
I WILL NOT TAKE THIS!!!
So, babe - you think you have a case against me???
My laywers are ready!!
You made a big mistake with trying to threathen me!!!
Evan,
I expect within the next few hours a phonecall from you or a reply on my e-mail.
In case there is no reaction from you today. I will take actions from my site to protect my company. This means that your e-mail will go my laywer.
I informed about your reputation and a few people seem to think that you make a sport of suing everyone because you have money behind you...Meaning: you are not the one with the money...you have people who put money in you.Let's see what those people think of you threathening other people...
Now...I do normally believe in the good things of people so, either we talk about this and you explain me why you threathening me and my company and we solve this like grown people.
Or, you leave me no choice than believing other people what they say about you and that is that you try to blackmail companies to get money & publicity. Which I think is silly...but, they say it.
With the threats you made against my company in your e-mail...I think you made a mistake.
I hope to speak to you soon and stop this very childish nonsense.
-----Original Message-----
From: Claudia [mailto:claudia@interclimax.com]
Sent: woensdag 1 augustus 2001 15:42
To: 'evan@gotjoins.com'
Subject: RE: Insulting Comments Made By You And Vick In Public Forums
Evan,
First of all I do not know any vick???, second I do not know you!!!
I have nothing against you..I do not even know what all this hassle is with you on the boards..as you can read I never made personal issues to you. Interclimax is my company and is my baby!!
Now I am not responsible for the personal things going on between you and forest.
That you and forest have personal problems is not my deal.
Forest is independent working with us. I have no clue what is going on.
But, I have the feeling you threaten me with your business acosiates in holland? How am I gonna take this??
I am not afraid of your "business acosiates" but let me tell you one thing - please, do not take this out on interclimax my baby because I have nothing to do with this and I will fight for my baby!!! I have work my ass off from nothing to build this company and I will not let anybody make threats or harm my company for something I am not involved in!!
And get yourself informed better because the reputation of interclimax is based on honousty!
I think what is going on on the boards is very childish...from all sites!!!
You can give me number, so, we can speak on the phone if you want.
-----Original Message-----
From: PFC Communications [mailto:pfccomm@hotmail.com]
Sent: woensdag 1 augustus 2001 15:36
To: claudia@interclimax.com
Subject: Fwd: Insulting Comments Made By You And Vick In Public Forums
----Original Message Follows----
From: XPays performance commerce network
To: forest@interclimax.com,vick@interclimax.com
CC: legal@xpays.com
Subject: Insulting Comments Made By You And Vick In Public Forums
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:21:40 -0700
To Forest and Vick,
I do not know you or Vick or Interclimax, but I have done some inquiring very close to home to your Amsterdam base of operations. I suggest you make a sizeable tax deductable donation to the new Non-Profit charity we setup which is called "GiveTech.org" when the site goes live next week. You do not know me and have never met me and it appears we have never done any business with Interclimax, so you do not know that jumping on MikeAI's bandwagon repeatedly and bashing me was poor judgement at the very least. Promoting Interclimax with XPays blood on every click Forest and Vick is something you ought to think about. My business associates in Amsterdam did not exactly make you out to be the good guys of the adult internet so we'll see how you handle this. I have copies of all the publications you 2 wrote in public forums and XPays reserves the right to take legal action accordingly despite this private communication. Evan XPays.com
Did everyone forget about Carol Cox??
I think she still has sex with her members on a regular basis?? I know for sure that she used too.. ;)
Also..there are a few other amateur sites that give away chances to have sex with the feature girls.
Golf at the Doral sounds good, just FYI for everyone that's gonna play greens fees run $195 if we play the Blue Monster, which IMO if I'm gonna divot up a course like Doral I'd like to do the nicest one they have :)
Wed, 01 Aug - 10:05:04 209.176.118.51 Post #: 7275
OK, a little morning laugh to start the day off. These guys got drunk late on a Saturday night, went to a church sign, snipped the lock off, rearranged the letters, and closed it up with a DIFFERENT padlock. LOL Bet there were some jaws hitting the floor at 6 am mass. LOLOLOL
Wed, 01 Aug - 09:37:07 213.239.140.229 Post #: 7272
I'm not real big on golfing with Forest but if KK will be wearing fishnets and heels I'd like to go.
Ulfie,
Apparently, you'll be receiving a bunch of IBD bonus videos, etc....just talked with their sales rep yesterday and signed up for 2 years. You can keep the stuff you get or trash it...I don't want it.
What date are you guys golfing?
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Ohh common Monk
Your not still mad about our little piss fest are you...
You may Actually LIKE me in person...=)
Come Golf..Eat and Drink with us..Im Buying...The food and booze that is...Greens Fess are on youall
you told all us busty-amateurs.com resellers how STUPID we were not to complain about their crash. To me it seems like she did something even more 'stupid'.
For the record I have first hand knowledge about wowcash :( ......
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Tro....sorry you got fucked by Busty and wowcash. Why don't you tell us all the story of wowcash as I have seen it mentioned several times in the past couple of days.
Obviously dealing with them was stupid. That was why I laughed in Melissas face when she pitched me on sending traffic to them.
I just offerd a piece of info that I thought was important to the conversation. I have no idea what kind of deal she made. All I know is that she took me to lunch and pitched me on sending them traffic. That is the end of my knowledge of the situation other tahn what has been posted for all to see.
Wed, 01 Aug - 07:41:16 172.175.194.160 Post #: 7264
I'm not real big on golfing with Forest but if KK will be wearing fishnets and heels I'd like to go.
Ulfie,
Apparently, you'll be receiving a bunch of IBD bonus videos, etc....just talked with their sales rep yesterday and signed up for 2 years. You can keep the stuff you get or trash it...I don't want it.
Does Klient work for Tyler? Does Klient represent SmutCash? If Tyler isn't willing to back up deals the Klient has made then he shouldn't let him make deals. Klient cut the deal with me in early June, I've been requesting stats since early July. Tyler knows this, and has chosen to ignore this simple fact. That is his choice, I'm just sharing my personal experience with SmutCash.
There in lies the problem.
I never once said I didn't make a mistake, what I am saying is I did make a mistake in doing business with them, and I feel that its my responsibility as an active member of this industry to share my treatment by Smutcash, as well as any mistakes and lessons learned.
Answer this question honestly:
Would you send webmasters and traffic to someone, ask for stats, etc for weeks and not expect to be paid?
Wed, 01 Aug - 03:39:20 64.174.156.146 Post #: 7258
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MelissaD and I had lunch 2 weeks ago. She pitched me on the program during lunch trying to get me to send some of my traffic to smutcash. Do you think she did that for her health?
Webfather
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I haven't read all the posts, but...
you told all us busty-amateurs.com resellers how STUPID we were not to complain about their crash. To me it seems like she did something even more 'stupid'.
For the record I have first hand knowledge about wowcash :( ...... TroI just want to hear something!
ohyeah cmon Michael, you know guys dont run check out at the pig, they can only bag groceries or run the lectric slicers in the meat dept...
KK .
Wed, 01 Aug - 02:29:30 209.180.135.184 Post #: 7253
Look my friend it's JoeBonics, oh and I'd say we refer him to the bonepro thread under discussion as well, --
you just managed to delete both the spell and grammar checker from your computers (yes thats a plural, it was no accident) and yes, we'll take it up tomorrow, I would never take you away from Katie before she goes, then people would really think I'm a, um, golf pro, yeah that is it!!!
KK .
Wed, 01 Aug - 02:26:52 209.180.135.184 Post #: 7252
JoeE its past both of our bedtimes... AND I am going to try to make it to the office tommorow, so I have to go tuck Katie into bed and tell her some bedtime stories about Mutt and Vince Carter saving the world.
JoeE, I am down 20lbs I am going to DOMINATE at the Jordan camp! ;-)
Ahhh I see how it is KK, lure me into going to sleep - then sneak attack me.
Did you recently see Pearl Harbor??
I will break it down for you S L O W L Y, in my PIGGLY WIGGLY CHECK OUT GUY VOICE tommorow so you can get a clue!
Be nice to BonePro, anyone with a name like that has to be a stud!
I have to say I agree with you that having morons like him shill for silvercash is pretty low. Slamming both CEN and MaxCash to promote silvercash... I hope Mike straighens things our and stops looking like a pandering fool.
Tommorow KK... Break out your hooked on Mike AI phonics book, and put on your Waffle House Hat... we are going to get you straight!
"KK it is simple, it is legal, it does not hurt the industry, what 2 consenting HUMAN BEINGS over the age of 18 is NONE of our business... "
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NO Michael, it is simple if you want to refer to legal then you refer to all legal. You with a JD should understand that when you invoke legal as a defense it applies to all that is legal within a given realm, that is how precedent stands since there are no two cases that are identical, they are all relative to a precedent in a given set (not always the same set according to defense and prosecution) --
Unlike Beastie sites, under-18 on nude teen Pedo sites, which violate my rule on consentual ADULTS
you have yet to establish what is a legal standard so we'll come back to this one as soon as you do. I have a few things to say but I'll make you work for it. And as long as it's been I don't think anyone that knows me thinks I'm in favor of much of anything underage, even when it's to my detriment to bring it up (repeatedly).
Spamming, credit card cross billing, password sites, etc... violate ethical standards of having a negative impact on OUR industry.
Of course so does Beastie and non-nude kiddie porn sites.... they break both rules!
I believe you had better go back and look up the difference between ethics and morals as they pertain to business -- I am under the impression here that you either willingly confuse the two or perhaps aren't exactly sure which is which.
We'll leave personal feelings out of this for the moment, you tell me how selling human favors doesn't equate to selling human flesh. Of course, you still live in Louisiana, maybe that's LEGAL down there.
"Shooting 100+ is no big deal, just make sure one of your tricks isn't trying to assure me that my ball really did land in your pants and if I don't look for it I have to take a drop"
Hehe, that's a great quote. My USGA average is 83 but tight courses with a lot of water eat me alive. I'm a scrambler. It's hard to recover when your ball is 40 feet under water. ;)
Monday? I'm not a weekend golfer by any means, it just plain takes too long -- there are 5 courses at Doral, I'm up for either Blue or White as I mentioned --
Shooting 100+ is no big deal, just make sure one of your tricks isn't trying to assure me that my ball really did land in your pants and if I don't look for it I have to take a drop ;)
KK .
Wed, 01 Aug - 01:23:02 209.180.135.184 Post #: 7228
Yeah Mike..
our Naked Sports an naked weather chicks are stopping by :)
Wed, 01 Aug - 01:20:28 209.180.135.184 Post #: 7226
If we can get some tee times on Saturday, Sunday or Monday morning it would work. I'm going to have some duties back at the show but I wouldn't mind tackling the blue monster. I would probably shoot 100+ but I'm up for the challenge. ;) I have a really fun game up my sleeve that everyone would love.
Mutt..the feed will have its own audio by launch time!
Enforcer Thats the late night wrecking crew..the hoochies are on the way! Were beta testing bandwith , audio quality etc right now! It'll get wild in a bit! DragonKingSilly Rabbit..4Play is for Surfers!
Wed, 01 Aug - 01:12:29 207.176.11.2 Post #: 7222
You didn't miss anything Michael, when your heads on the ground looking up, your ears ready to be stepped on, keep it in mind... ;)
KK .
Wed, 01 Aug - 01:11:02 209.180.135.184 Post #: 7221
Would be a little tough to concentrate on golf with fishnets and high heels in your foursome. Then again, who cares? ;)
I think KK and I could actually become friends. I generally take strong stances on my own opinions but am willing to listen to opposing views. I like opinionated people because they are the ones with the best ideas and the strongest convictions to their principles. ;)
Wed, 01 Aug - 00:56:53 209.166.141.149 Post #: 7212
"I could go on and on but, yawn, I need to go to bed.
Feel free to dump on me some more KK. I have my views, you have yours, no problems. ;) "
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If you feel I'm dumping on you because of a post, by all means go to bed and let me dump on someone else, far be it from me to make someone stay up when Disney goes to reruns ;-}}}
I'll be in So Fla yes, got a varied schedule going on, so if you'd like to get together, I'd be glad to buy you a drink. Just let me know.
Wed, 01 Aug - 00:38:23 165.228.130.11 Post #: 7207
If you want my political views here they are:
1) Drugs: I abhore them, don't use them, etc. But, I still feel they should be legal and controlled. I would support government programs that deal with the small percentage of poeple that get hooked.
2) Prostitutes - Require mandatory testing for STD's. For many women (Sad as it is) this is their only means of economic support.
3) Kill the Social Security Administration. I have far more knowledge in this area than you will ever know and it is a joke of an organization.
I could go on and on but, yawn, I need to go to bed.
Feel free to dump on me some more KK. I have my views, you have yours, no problems. ;)