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EC it is not childish behavior. If you want to promote your product here, surely you can have a banner/icon on the product your trying to promote.

If not, why should we allow you to make stupid posts to try and get the URL of a program you are pimping for.

If you want respect, give respect. You are the one who is acting like a child, thinking you deserve special treatment, when everyone else has added their icons to Oprano.

It is kind of amusing to be lectured on "how to do business" from someone who has been axed more times then a redwood.

Try woring with Oprano EC rather then against it. If Serge gets fed up, I will have no problem if you become the 3rd person ever banned from Oprano.

Mike AI Last weekend of March Madness - make your picks now!

I dunno Mike... If you can answer my tagline before it gets changed...

This is just childish to me...
Used to be funny... somewhat...

Evil Chris Is this the way to do business?

Follow me to GFY Serge...

oh! I'm sorry.... I forgot. :-)

Evil Chris Lensman didn't pay your bill in full because you all suck dick!

Evil Chris, why don't you just get a button on the new program you are pimping for. That way we don't have to keep going around like this.

Work with us... be a sport.

Mike AI Last weekend of March Madness - make your picks now!

CEN converts well... as long as you dont know they only count second page clicks...

lol,
DrGuile
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For me it is all about the money they send me every week - how much money I can expect to make every time I mail to them.
GregP

Is this how you make money Serge?

You know you want to hire me...

Evil Chris I destroy pay sites from witnin

EC it depends on the battle ground, what firepower means.

On Oprano, wit and intellect are needed.

On the westbank, and in Afganistan it is tanks, bombs, special forces soldiers.

Mike AI Last weekend of March Madness - make your picks now!

Mike, don't you mean superior wit and intellect?

Evil Chris I'll be a good boy, please Karl, Please!

Very good Serge...
Evil Chris Karl, may I come back?

I firmly beleive in the notion of "peace through superior firepower!"

Mike AI Last weekend of March Madness - make your picks now!

Serge, I understand completely...
I'll play my game, and you can play yours.
:-)

Evil Chris I understand, despite being a moron who is at his 3rd job in the last 5 months

MikeAI,
I think showing restrains was very counterproductive so far and strong show of force is definatelly overdue.

Having "Alien" in charge of Palestinian forces wouldn't hurt Israel either.
Serge

EC,
and we'll miss ya as much as Karl misses you....this is a new policy with no exceptions and enfoced very strongly.

I HATE THAT, but...I only work here
;-)))
Serge

It is about time Israel starting kicking ass. The only time there will be a solution, a peace is when the war is won. No one ever gives peace until they are completely defeated 100%.

Mike AI Last weekend of March Madness - make your picks now!

Serge, I do want to post here, ya know...

But you're making it difficult...

Evil Chris

hahaha....

Evil Chris

The old days... I have most of my original sites from end of 95 and early 96 on a zip disk somewhere. They are funny to check out from time to time.

http://www.opranoplus.com/marchmadness/

Make sure you get your picks in, games are tommorow!

Anyone in the top 25 can still win the way the points are set up!!

Mike AI Last weekend of March Madness - make your picks now!

"My motherfucker is so cool that when he goes to sleep, sheeps count him"
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from movie "The Heist"
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Shot right here in my fair city last summer.
:-)

(Hi Serge) :-)

Evil Chris I forgot putting link to Oprano and fucking Serge-bot killed my beautiful promo work...mothefucking goat!

CEN converts well... as long as you dont know they only count second page clicks...

lol,
DrGuile

Love trafficcashgold definately converts well for us.
GregP

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Serge

Webfather, that was than, and this is NOW:

MEMO

To: Our Valued Business Partners
From: Humboldt Bank Merchant Services
RE: High-Risk Merchant Applications No Longer Accepted

Serge

I won't go.....First of all I met Jonathan, Webmistress!!!(WOW!!!!!) and Lovey IRL and even wrote one chapter of their presentation :-) and was following the rest pretty close, it's tough to hide things on the open net. Secondary....I would have go if PK would attend. Cliffie says that she is cute, I wanna see for myself, but seems like this is not in the cards :-(. I guess I would have to live with transcript.....Hey, Jonathan, I remember there were pictures "WHEN JONATHAN AND GERONIMO MET LOVEY"... WILL WE HAVE PICTURES THIS TIME? :-))))) I would like to purchase publishing rights! Have a healthy and happy New Year, everybody and let the "shwartz" be with you!
Serge <sign3inc@soho.ios.com>
USA - Wednesday, January 01, 1997 at 04:33:23 (PST)

Webfather

Hello World, Ever wonder if you could meet Jonathan, WebMistress and DaVic in real life? Well, yes you can, all of us will be making a presentation at INTERACTIVE 2000 January 16-17 in Las Vegas, NV USA. We are going to tell the world all about the making of Jonathan's World, The Amateurs Web and SexySites.com! Also learn about our history and future. The first WebSite we built, the first network we helped form, the downfall of the network, the projects we have inspired, and the success and the disappointments of some of those projects. We will not hold anything back! The real story behind Jonathan's World, SexySites.com, The Amateurs Web, COTAC, WSS, XXXCOUNTER.COM, and many other ventures. Come learn how to make serious amounts of money on the Internet and how to quit your 9 to 5 job! Learn all about the people who are behind our "FAMILY"! Don't get me wrong, there is a fee associated with attending the show, however, NONE of that money is being given to us! WebMistress, DaVic and I are going to do our presentation FREE of charge to the association. To find out more, please visit http://www.ia2000.com WebMistress and I look forward to seeing you there! Happy New Year to all of you!
Jonathan <jonathan@jonathansworld.com>
Seattle, WA USA - Tuesday, December 31, 1996 at 19:58:35 (PST)
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Happy and healthy New Year, everybody, especially to you, the bi-babe, way to go! You can keep me up all the time :-)
Serge <sign3inc@soho.ios.com>
USA - Tuesday, December 31, 1996 at 16:45:11 (PST)
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Bob Who?
Bob <quasi@modo.com>
USA - Tuesday, December 31, 1996 at 15:18:27 (PST)
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PK: Fear with the URL hid by the frame, I'd have missed it anyway. I won't from now on though. Thanks again.
Khan <Khan@khans.com>
Va. Bch, VA USA - Tuesday, December 31, 1996 at 14:27:56 (PST)

Webfather

Morning Oprano,

Serge thanks for your kind words a couple days ago. :)
I know I said I would be back the next day however I was still in need of silent time.

What religion is it that has the dead family members body in the house for days at a time and does the mourning forever??

I never understood such a tradition until just recently. :(

ciao
Blondy

"My motherfucker is so cool that when he goes to sleep, sheeps count him"
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from movie "The Heist"
GregP

something I run into:

"My motherfucker is so cool that when he goes to sleep, sheeps count him"

;-)))
Serge

JR, an experienced mailer knows the results his list
produces, he can probably predict the results more
accurately than one can for a banner slot on a
web page.

Timon
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True, if you mail to your own sites with a list and you do 100 signups in a day consistently you can have idea of what type of signups you should recieve with sponsors. IF the list doesn't do as well move on to other sponsors that convert better for you. The mailer has the power because it is his traffic and he can stop it at any time if it is not converting.
GregP

That was some great reading. I loved this one....

Laurie, can you make me a script that will put my site on all my visitors bookmarks list and make my url their homepage? :)
Danny

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Ask and ye shall receive. ;)

Ulfie Pornsurfing.com, run by a Steeler fan but pays Browns fans as well ;)

Are there any more Ynot pages in the archive?

I can only find that one page...

Timon

OR - you could change your DNS to say MY address upon reverse lookup.......Security - disabled....
Mike m-nt-2.phaser.com
FL USA - 02/14/97 15:25 EST
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damn.. this was the guy who first told me I could make money with my adult site.

lol.. Mike @ newsbabes.com

sharky lets make some money!

Ok Serge, but whats a grievance?
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

I am selling banner advertising space at VERY COMPETITIVE rates. I receive about 2000 hits a day and will sell the highest visibility possible. Contact me and we'll work out a deal.
Marc <dma1997@voyager.net>
Kalamazoo, MI USA - Thursday, February 13, 1997 at 12:05:53 (EST)
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He sure came a loooong way since then ;-)))

Timon

Meni,
send your grievances to:
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2002/03/netforcema.htm
Serge

Gawd dam, John !

That was truly fascinating reading.

Funny thing is that was just the typical board and it's BS back then too, lol
Hank D $1 million per episode !!!???

Is conversion cash Hoopers?
I got spammed on aol im
whats this world coming to?
http://247sexcams.com/index2.shtml?wmid=friends&url=default
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

Very Bad Good Friday Jokes

Jesus walks into a tavern with 3 nails in his hand and says to the innkeeper
"Can you put me up for the night?"

What's the difference between a black velvet Elvis and Jesus?
Only takes one nail to hang the black velvet Elvis

Vick

++++There is nothing that states the chat room is uncensored, nor have I stated this.++++++

Rick, you gave me YOUR WORD over the phone. I do multi thousand deals on word and hand shake. For me man is only good as his word is. You went back on your word. Others warned me that Rick does go back on his word and I said...NO, NOT RICK. Sorry, friends, you were right and I was wrong and I admit that in public. Rick.....please don't call me no more. I do not deal with people whose word is worth 2 cents plain, per click of their tongue.
Serge
USA - Wednesday, February 12, 1997 at 21:07:25 (EST)

hahahahaha,
like this one???
;-)))
Serge

John you da man!! ;-))

Timon

Piss from the Past!..Too Funny...Actually this is a classic Serge/Rick battle;)..Circa 2/97

http://web.archive.org/web/19970214232820/www.ynotnetwork.com/ho/wmchat.html
JohnIP

It's not Serges because the background isn't blue ;-)

Timon

http://web.archive.org/web/19981111184536/http://sexia.com/

yeap, definatelly Cohen's...I never made sites as pretty as this one
;-))
Serge

No, HankD, I don't...I see membership section located on sexia.com, gotta be one of Cohen's
;-)))
Serge

morning, Opranauts
8)
Runk Gay-next step in evolution!

Remember this one, Serge ??

http://web.archive.org/web/19971009205656/morefilth.com/index1.html

Hank D $1 million per episode !!!???

CJ - can you forgive me, beautiful? I'd meant to get your flash banner up yesterday on http://www.oprano.com but Spambot needed a new motivator circuit so I spent all day giving the little guy an overhaul. Your link is now up and I'm happy to say Spambot is better than before! BTW - is the 2 MILLION DOLLAR deal at http://www.sexhit.com/ in $US or $AU? ;)
Edd (Opranautical Engineer) OpranoGuru™

http://web.archive.org/web/19970613204341/www.hotcunt.com/welcome.htm

Or

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.hotcunt.com

Sites from 1996 and beyond.

Webfather

PK will be pissed at me for posting this one ;-))

http://www.nwlink.com/~persiank/

Timon

KC,
PK.COM was Jonathan's idea he gave to PK and in return she pulled all his listings....
women
;-))
Serge

This web archive is amazing...

I remember looking at Playboy's early site...

http://web.archive.org/web/19961220001705/http://www1.playboy.com/

KC

wow, timon, back in the days when 'This is going to revolutionize the industry' could be an accurate statement, lol

it sure did !!
Hank D $1 million per episode !!!???

I bet not many people remember seeing this!! lol

http://web.archive.org/web/19961228131022/http://pk.com/
KC

http://web.archive.org/web/19961104111137/http://www.exxxotic.com/

my first site, hee hee
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

JR - Bulk Mailers know how their lists convert... they know which lists yield better... they are no different to other webmasters. At the end of the day they look at how much they are making. the maths is real simple.

your point about effective mail delivery is right, the propriety filters employed by yahoo, hotmail & aol (etc.) have been creating havoc with sales. it's no longer just a case of getting your mail to the mail server - but reaching their inbox - not ending up in their junk mail box, which is useless.
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so then the problem is compounded

1) no one knows how well your site converts

2) no on knows how much traffic they are really sending to you

3) no one even knows how many messages are getting through at any given moment?

JR

http://web.archive.org/web/19980629093556/http://www.x-it.net/

Anyone remember this one? The Net definately changed
for the worse after this site ;-))

Timon

I am like a kid in a candy shop but I won't tell you why. I will keep it a secret until the day I die. I guess I should be guilty for what I am feeling. My SoBeCat has been stuck for over a week on my ceiling.

Check out the spectacular SoBeGirl feed. I am signing up webmasters like crazy..Jump ship now!

Peace!

The Producer

The Producer SoBeCams - The Feed with T1 Speed - Only 99 Bucks

Colin would remember but he's on holiday today...

Timon

I think it was one of your domains, timon, lol !
Hank D $1 million per episode !!!???

Brings a sentimental tear to my eye, mutt, lol

The days before steenking popups, java, tgp, etc.

Were we naive or what ??

Hank D $1 million per episode !!!???

http://web.archive.org/web/19980111034110/utterfilth.com/utterfilth/
mutt

All I can remember is that we wanted to put it on teenfuck.com
but the NIC didn't allow the word "fuck" in those days... no
idea what domain we used instead though... :-(

Timon

I'm lucky if I can remember yesterday.
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welcome to the club!
;-))
Serge

Ya know, we should start a 'Hall of Fame' and get all the old timers to put their old sites up in it !
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cool idea!
Serge

I have no idea what domain it was on.
I'm lucky if I can remember yesterday.

Not enough drugs , lol

Hank D $1 million per episode !!!???

You mean TeenFuck?

What domain was that on, maybe we can find it in the
Internet archives...

Timon

JR - Bulk Mailers know how their lists convert... they know which lists yield better... they are no different to other webmasters. At the end of the day they look at how much they are making. the maths is real simple.

your point about effective mail delivery is right, the propriety filters employed by yahoo, hotmail & aol (etc.) have been creating havoc with sales. it's no longer just a case of getting your mail to the mail server - but reaching their inbox - not ending up in their junk mail box, which is useless.

The bulk mailers are working way's around them, they are adapting their techniques (no different to SE traffic webmasters) - the good news is they are getting past the filters!

but what amazes me is pay per address sponsors like riskymail & teenmail are continually getting their mailouts dumped in the junk email boxes of hotmail, yahoo & aol. that has to be hurting their sales.
ulysses

Ya know, we should start a 'Hall of Fame' and get all the old timers to put their old sites up in it !

Maybe we could even do our original CJ site that we did with Spanker way back when, lol.
Hank D $1 million per episode !!!???

It's OK JR, we're here to help the mentally challenged
webmasters and will think no less of you ;-))

Timon

http://www.utterfilth.com/utterfilth/banners/c101.gif

This is my favourite, museum material ;-)

Timon

http://www.utterfilth.com/utterfilth/Home.htm

can you point link from Cliffie which doesn't work to my Pusi?
;-))

my Pusi drips, but still works fine
;-)))
Serge

yeah Timon, I keep it around kinda like a classic car. Can't really drive it much but once in a while I open the garage and look at it, lol
Hank D $1 million per episode !!!???

That was an easy one for a sergism, lol

Hank D
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Happiness is being understood!
;-))
Serge

Simple aint it? ;-)
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simple fer you smart fellers. :-(
JR

Hey Push, long time no speak ;-)

I recently noticed your old site is still in it's original '97
condition, brought back some good memories seeing that ;-)

http://www.utterfilth.com/

Timon

If you need a translator for that, JR, you're in the wrong chat room.
That was an easy one for a sergism, lol

Hank D $1 million per episode !!!???

JR,

Let's put it this way, how do you know that at all with any
form of advertising in any medium...

You advertise a site and if you make less money than you
made with another site then you don't advertise that site anymore.

Simple aint it? ;-)

Timon

and who will translate this for me?

"most likely outcome is "of" should be replaced by AND"

;-))
JR

Sure is Timon

Hank D $1 million per episode !!!???

An experienced mailer knows if his mail is getting through.
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ok, lets put it another way.

how do you know that 1 out of 5 signups are not being shaved?
JR

An experienced mailer knows if his mail is getting through.

Timon

You will never know on a given day for example if mail is just not getting through... AOL for example, of if you are just getting fucked.

JR
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JR, most likely outcome is "of" should be replaced by AND
;-))
Serge

he can probably predict
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it is the "probably" part i am talking about. you can say an experienced webmaster "knows his traffic"... but you also have to have a means to know exactly whats what and test and verify the value of your traffic.

you cannot do that with mail. You will never know on a given day for example if mail is just not getting through... AOL for example, of if you are just getting fucked.

JR

Is that Utterfilth Push I know from way way back?

Timon
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nope...Push had more hairs on his head than HankD
;-)))
Serge (Join4free Gold is now accepting Paypal!)

JR, an experienced mailer knows the results his list
produces, he can probably predict the results more
accurately than one can for a banner slot on a
web page.

Timon

Don't forget to get your picks in for the Final Four round of the NatNet March Madness Contest!
http://www.opranoplus.com/marchmadness

I just checked and there are alot of people who have a realistic shot at still winning the $2000
grand prize who haven't got their picks in yet. DO IT NOW BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!

mutt

btw - we looking for mailer traffic.
Per signup or rev-share. good deals available. established co. weekly pay runs.
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I was wondering... how does anyone know how much traffic they sent you?

i mean a message is sent... and no one knows but you if anyone clicked on the link right?

how do i know if a large % of my addresses were invalid?...

how do i know what % of addresses actually made it to their destination?...

of those, how do i know how many people went to your site and how many actually signed up?

how do i know when you are being honest or not being honest?

seems like the whole "spam affiliate" thing would require a great deal of trust and has MASSIVE potential for abuse of trust.

JR

Is that Utterfilth Push I know from way way back?

Timon

Cleo, I wash my BBQ down with a long drink glass of
straight up Johny Walker Blue!

Timon

opps...sorry about double post - my tricky track pad caught me out ;-)
ulysses Happy Easter ALL!

Happy easter! to all. What a great long weekend holiday!!! Remeber it's a great time to phone family & friends you haven't seen for a while. take the time to do it & enjoy it. I'm sooo truly thankful things haven't gone really crazy for a while.

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btw - we looking for mailer traffic.
Per signup or rev-share. good deals available. established co. weekly pay runs.
We really help our mailers - talk to me & find out how.
ulysses Happy Easter ALL!

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