Voodoo, have your walklet ready
*************************
What exactly is a walklet?
voodooman (Do you beleive I am straight?)

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/10.01/egold.html

Serge THIS article is from Jan 2002... I read it on the place in Feb...


Just telling people need to do some due dligence. Serge, you can give me my cut in UNITED STATES currency....



Mike AI

I am not to sure about their track record, or their intentions.
********************************

why don't you call FBI and FIND from horces mouth about their legitimacy and track record...
The article you posted is one year old, they had 181,000 users than compared to
513,184 as of 10 minutes ago,
and your local FBI is located at:
http://neworleans.fbi.gov/contact/fo/neworlean/ra.htm

they might have more answers than all of us combined
;-)))
Serge EBay is NOT the only one who accepts e-gold....

I am not to sure about their track record, or their intentions.
*********************************

Me either. But when you own a variable of their domain .....you tend to give them the benefit of the doubt and you pray a lot.

:-))

Webfather

"With all the fucking money you people make you can't just pay for directv???"

Its harder to do chargebacks for Directv, so I just don't pay in the first place.


Monk

JMM u can't pay for Directv in Canada. You could at one time but not anymore.


mutt

With all the fucking money you people make you can't just pay for directv???


JMM
********************

JMM,
don't be harsh on Monk...he plays stock market....
;-)))
Serge EBay is NOT the only one who accepts e-gold....

Hmmmm this e-gold thing reminded me of a few stories I read about them. I am not to sure about their track record, or their intentions.


http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/10.01/egold.html

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,42745,00.html


Mike AI

Hey, I don't see signs signs signs there !

http://www.e-gold.com/unsecure/thelist.htm#merchantandorg
Hank D I got your e-gold swinging
***********************************

it's ok....you can pay Oprano using acount number 512959,
we take e-gold
Serge EBay is NOT the only one who accepts e-gold....

With all the fucking money you people make you can't just pay for directv???


JMM (Oprano's Resident Satirist)

Hey, I don't see signs signs signs there !

http://www.e-gold.com/unsecure/thelist.htm#merchantandorg
Hank D I got your e-gold swinging

Serge
Do you prefer your livestock to be male or female?

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heterosexual men enjoy watching two chicks doing each other. Do heterosexual women enjoy watching two dudes banging each other?
********
Mutt
Personally I find all porn movies to be very boring, but I am not the average female. I have a close, more or less straight friend, that gets very excited watching two men fuck each other. If I am going to watch porn I prefer straight or lesbian movies. For me watching two men can be fascinating, but only in the same way as watching someone screw a goat.

Cleo_LinkUP (bite me) That other source of traffic

http://www.e-gold.com/unsecure/thelist.htm#merchantandorg
Serge EBay & Yahoo are NOT the only ones who accepts e-gold....

225 new e-gold acounts opened...
Serge Voodoo, have your walklet ready ;-))

mutt,

My Directv card has been shit for the last 2 months as they have been continually zapping. I got it back from my guy the other day...popped it in... and 5 minutes later it got zapped again.

I have an H card as well as an HU card, so I am hoping to be unaffected by any card swap. I have heard that H card fixes are available.

I believe Directv hired one of the foremost card hackers to work on their side and they have definitely been kicking butt since.

Monk

Linkbill? Where are all these new third party processors coming from? Is it that easy to get a merchant account for that purpose?

Probably specialize in beastie sites like that Billcards.com specializes in kiddy porn.

Is your Directv card still working Monk? I read a Usenet post that Directv was swapping cards and grey market users were going to be shit outta luck.


mutt

Monk,
and I'll do it again as soon as I can lift your tail
;-)))
Serge Voodoo, have your walklet ready ;-))

This is how Serge made money before he got 152 people to sign up under hm for an e-gold account.

http://www.animalsfuckgirls.com/inside.phtml

Monk

That would be an awesome niche, you can take all the
signups from closet fags who can tell themselves they're
not joining a gay site ;-))

Timon
***************************
Serge (Join4free Gold is now accepting Paypal!) Voodoo, have your walklet ready ;-))

heterosexual men enjoy watching two chicks doing each other. Do heterosexual women enjoy watching two dudes banging each other?

If the answer is no, why not?


mutt

That would be an awesome niche, you can take all the
signups from closet fags who can tell themselves they're
not joining a gay site ;-))

Timon

I have to "play" with those numbers still. It's not a simple geometric progression.
*********************************

Tell me about it! lol

After 1 week I knew this was WAY beyond what I could project with a simple formula. I have just been waiting to have a LITTLE bit of data to analyze before I asked.

:-)


Webfather

those are two seriously confused guys.


mutt

Wouldn't mind getting my hands on a few
hundred sets of that stuff!

Timon

OH MY GAWD. WHat the heck is this?

http://www.sobegirl.com/Models/S023/s023pics.htm
The Producer SoBeGirl 200 Amateur Video /Pic Sets and Growing

Webfather,

I have to "play" with those numbers still. It's not a simple geometric progression.
Colin 4 Free Bucks. $1/email! No deductions!

Well, I guess that takes care of "Beyond all reasonable doubt".

"Beginning the first pay period in April ...4 Free Bucks will be paying $1 for all emails...NO deductions....counting ALL your traffic…paying up sell on our POTD exits.

Now...Back to the charts;)) "
Colin 4 Free Bucks. $1/email! No deductions!

We interrupt Analytical Statistics 101 to make applesauce.....

Beginning the first pay period in April ...4 Free Bucks will be paying $1 for all emails...NO deductions....counting ALL your traffic…paying up sell on our POTD exits.

Now...Back to the charts;))

JohnIP 4 Free Bucks...Dollar an Email...No Deductions...Counts ALL your traffic!

meanwhile, while we talk and talk and discuss how many devils can sit on the eye of the needle,
152 E-Gold acounts has been created since this it was posted first time on this board...
Serge e-gold, get on it before FM discovers it and calls it his "new invention" ;-)))

Colin,

What does asking people at noon what they are going to do
at 8 have to do with testing porn traffic on different days? :-)

Timon
*************************

Timon,
you are right and Colin just doesn't wanna admit the short commings of his "experiemnt"..

NEXT!
;-))
Serge Colin, I thought you were leaving...are u just avoiding my Q? ;-))

http://activate.ru/4you

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Timon

I can't create a parallel universe.

Colin
-------------------

what the hell did they teach you at yale
;))
dantheman tagline mia

Why, aliens can't be held accountable...

Timon

Timon,

And we should still look for the REAL killer!
Colin If you think OJ was guilty, click here!

and primarily on this 1 in 3 billion or whatever, the jury was told this wasn't beyond a reasonable doubt.
Colin If you think OJ was guily, click here!
***********************************

Johnny Cochrane could have told that jury anything and they would have found a reasonable doubt for OJ.

'How do we know dat beyond a reasonable doubt dat while Mistah Simpson was on his air-o-plane dat some space creatures did not land in Miss Nicole Simpson's backyard and proceeded to kill both Mrs. Simpson and her gentleman caller? Did ya evah think about dat ladies and gentlemens of da jury!"

Jury: Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.......ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.........
mutt Get Your Final Four Picks In Today! Or Tomorrow! Or The Next Day! $5,000 Prize Pool Up For Grabs!

Colin, the fact that a perfect experiment is not possible
shouldn't discourage you from doing a BETTER experiment ;-))

Timon

Serge,

http://activate.ru/4you
This is just for you!!!
voodooman (Do you beleive I am straight?)

Guilty is good too.
Colin If you think OJ was guilty, click here!

This is like OJ. It was 99.x% certain that the DNA found was his. There was some small chance, like 1 in 3 billion or something that it wasn't, and primarily on this 1 in 3 billion or whatever, the jury was told this wasn't beyond a reasonable doubt.
Colin If you think OJ was guily, click here!

Timon,

I agree with you in that you can not design a perfect experiment. You can design an excellent one though.

People change their minds. We still poll them and this gives us a certain understanding if we understand all the variables.

I can't create a parallel universe.

Colin Insite Adult. Damned Good Math.

Timon,

Because you are trying to assess the accuracy of a subsample of a larger sample and you need to have rules that explain how accurate those results will be.

A poll does the same thing. Same mathematics.

Stopping short of running the same exact experiment in parallel Universes, there is always going to be some deviation from perfection. What is the order of magnitude?

Colin Insite Adult. Damned Good Math.

Porn traffic is not a constant thing and sources change
constantly... maybe you are using traffic from the same
sources every time but how do you know your sources don't
change their sources?

And how about the sources of your sources of your sources? :-)

Timon

Colin,

What does asking people at noon what they are going to do
at 8 have to do with testing porn traffic on different days? :-)

Timon

"in science you don't assume, you prove! "

You can't prove anything in science. You can only disprove something. See Karl Popper's various treatise on falsifiablity. This is the mantra of modern science.


Colin Insite Adult. Damned Good Math.

in science you don't assume, you prove!

-------------------------------

in life you don't assume, you kinda guess
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

Timon,

I already allowed for error.

Gallup polls ask people at noon which way they will vote at 8pm. The results are correct to within 3% 67% of the time with a 95% confidence level. Sure, you could design the gallup poll a little better and tweak some things but you are going to get very reliable results "as is".

It is entirely "scientific" to measure and quote such results. You are discussing the difference between an excellent study and an optimal study but for the range of dates, traffic, etc you are not going to find much difference.


Colin Insite Adult. Damned Good Math.

Ulfie, thats cool. My buddy in FL didn't realize how big JJ is till late Tuesday.
I got him on the list for The Strippers Ball in Boca.
And he's calling me, saying "I can't find Jenna and Jay, I'm not sure if I can spot her on the dance floor"
I'm like, "Jenna isn't dancing in the middle of the dance floor with Jay, find the VIP of the VIP area"
So he doesn't see her
then her comes the Camera's and 10 security guys, and chants of Jenna Jenna Jenna
oh there she is
They will be releasing a video of the best stuff from these parties and sell it like girls gone wild stuff
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

Colin,

If you poll 1000 passerby's in a certain street and down
the road there's a football stadium and right next to
it a business convention center you can get very different
results on different days.

If you test traffic on different days and assume it's exactly
the same traffic then you are not being scientific because
in science you don't assume, you prove!

Timon

serge, you may want to fix the link in your tagline :-)


cj (vaginator) $2 million dollars :: april 1st :: ready for your share?

Serge,

You are saying basically that you can't poll two different sets of people. You know as well I that you can. You just have to take into account the error and the confidence level.

You poll 1000 people on an election and you have about a 3% error for the larger election. My article mentioned below discusses that and confidence levels, etc.

I didn't say I was leaving right now. I am leaving tomorrow morning. I am packing right now, calling dry cleaning to drop off my clothes (lazy bastard!) , etc.

Just a little slow in responses.

Colin Insite Adult. Damned Good Math.

It's only the same traffic if all traffic is sent to all
sites in a random order ;-)

Timon
****************************

BINGO!
we are getting somewhere and you use just common sense, don't ya?
;-))

and the beauty of this approach,
it can go on short period of time and on longer one,
but if you test 10 sites-
you gotta do it in THE SAME time FRAME!

but saying that site A is better or worse if you haven't been tested them via randomizer at THE SAME time is...
exercise in futility,
only idiots like Snikk can pull off and brag it to even bigger idiots about their results...
out to pick up my car!
;-))

you cna crash the logic now...if you can
;-))
Serge Fixed! ;-)))

Total members

Day 10 = 317 members
day 20 = 850 members
Day 30 = 1273 members
Day 37 = 1700 members

Webfather

It's only the same traffic if all traffic is sent to all
sites in a random order ;-)

Timon

Same traffic = same traffic sources.
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quck question:
you think it's THE SAME people, besides regulars, who come HERE every day?

would you concider traffic from Oprano from day A and day B as "the same source"?

There is only ONE way to call traffic in the test THE SAME...only ONE!
Serge Colin, I thought you were leaving...are u just avoiding my Q? ;-))

Day 10 = 1.40
Day 20 = 3.53
Day 30 = 7.36
Day 37 = 14.55

Webfather

if you call same traffic being just the same traffic source-
I wonder if you realise yourself how sckewed your "test" really is!?

this is NOT the same traffic!
Serge Colin, I thought you were leaving...are u just avoiding my Q? ;-))

Same traffic = same traffic sources.

------------------------------
Webfather,

Can you give me a few points along the way?

Day 0 : $0
Day 10:
Day 20:
Day 30:
Day 37:


Colin Insite Adult. Damned Good Math.

Colin, stop wasting time. :-)

Can you answer?

Post # 69797

It is way out of my league.

Webfather

http://board.gofuckyourself.com/images2/obait120.gif

fuck...now I know where 2 morons a day still come from
;-)))
Serge (Join4free Gold is now accepting Paypal!)

Yale. Punches.
http://www.yale.edu/athletics/Showcase/Mhockey/mhockey.htm
Colin Insite Adult. Damned Good Math.

Cleo, are you sure you want to go swimming in Florida??

http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/03/27/black.blob/index.html

Timon

Man what am I doing here on Oprany, the discussions on
GFY are much more interesting....

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?s=b619e737aab48f91cba1db73b8e24033&threadid=54896

Timon

63 NEW e-gold acounts has been created since first post on this board...
Serge in GOLD we Trust....

Another hot beautiful day here. Maybe it would be a good idea to get away from the computer for a little while and go to the beach to soak up some golden rays.

Cleo_LinkUP (bite me) nekkid young lady

Colin,
it's OK, I'll remind you of "the same" issue when you get back
;-))
Serge from 1/4 cent revenue to $14 a day in 37 days...selling NOTHING!

"Timon, you think Yale graduate is scared of the former electrical engineer?"
**********************************
Yale graduates are not well known for throwing good punches,
electrical engineers are ;-))

Timon

Timon,

I'm packing to go to Syracuse, NY right now to go see my daughter tomorrow.
Colin Insite Adult. Damned Good Math.

Colin,
please define SAME TRAFFIC
Serge

Serge, No.

Same links, same spots, same traffic. Error less than 5%. CJ and TGP traffic.

"Timon, you think Yale graduate is scared of the former electrical engineer?"

Colin Insite Adult. Damned Good Math.

Serge,

Read this:
http://www.buildinganempire.com/poisson2.html

All error calculations were less than 5% by these methods.
Colin Insite Adult. Damned Good Math.

Timon, you think Yale graduate is scared of the former electrical engineer?
;-)))
Serge in GOLD we Trust....

I guess not :-)
Timon

care to describe them?
Serge in GOLD we Trust....

My methods were very solid. Better than 99.9% of such comparions on the web.

"Colin, the METHOD you and others achieve those numbers is what I question.... your methods are inaccurate and misleading to say the least,"
Colin Insite Adult. Damned Good Math.

I understand. For those with
traffic, this is an easy, cost free
way to accumulate this asset. ;-))




Wig
************************

BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Serge in GOLD we Trust....

yeap, we are....you talk investment and I talk investment of nothing to acumulate GOLD/Current Income.
****************************

I understand. For those with
traffic, this is an easy, cost free
way to accumulate this asset. ;-))




Wig

I guess we are talking two different
things.

This is an investment. You get paid
when it goes up and you sell it. ;-))
**********************

yeap, we are....you talk investment and I talk investment of nothing to acumulate GOLD/Current Income.


Serge in GOLD we Trust....

Serge,

I back those numbers because they are very similar to mine.

If you want to compare apples to apples, take one apple, subtract deductions, subtract foreign IPs not counted and then compare the apples.

That is the apple comparison formula.
Colin
***********************

Colin, the METHOD you and others achieve those numbers is what I question....
your methods are inaccurate and misleading to say the least,
as frequent visitor to the Yale Labs you should know that not all testing methods are created equal
;-))
Serge in GOLD we Trust....

Sup Oprano!

Does any one here have alot of experience in real estate? I'm
looking at 2 Buisness zoned building in my town and i have a
few questions for someone with some experience.
R3K

...and how do you get PAID from those efforts?
**************
Serge,

I guess we are talking two different
things.

This is an investment. You get paid
when it goes up and you sell it. ;-))

And don't worry, at the top of the
gold market there will be just as
many buyers as there were at the top
of the Naz. ;-))

Wig

Old socks from 1997?

Put 'em on ebay! Results guaranteed.

Colin Serge Memorabilia Here

Serge,

I back those numbers because they are very similar to mine.

If you want to compare apples to apples, take one apple, subtract deductions, subtract foreign IPs not counted and then compare the apples.

That is the apple comparison formula.
Colin 4 Free Bucks. No Deductions. Foreign IPs counted.

Or, you can find a local nusimatics
dealer and plop down some cash for
some kruggerands, american eagles,
etc.
***********************

...and how do you get PAID from those efforts?

e-gold PAYS you every time somebody uses their e-gold for transactions...

it's like every third party processor, Visa, Amex, etc,
gets paid every time one pulls their cards out of their wallets.

how do you think Webfather makes his $14 and GROWING a day without selling/buying ANYTHING!?
Serge Webfather and Oprano are MORONS! don't follow them in ANYTHING they do!

Timon,

That's funny! ;-))
Wig

Timon, all this for a few pounds?
;-)))
******************************
Hey you asked for super safe, not super convenient ;-))

Timon

And when you redeem it, they pay you
in your currency of choice? Is
there a fee?
*************************

it's a big YES on BOTH
Serge Webfather and Oprano are MORONS! don't follow them in ANYTHING they do!

Serge, fly to Geneva, buy a box of boullions, stash them in a safe in
the basement of the UBS and pierce the keyring through your dick.
*************************

Or, you can find a local nusimatics
dealer and plop down some cash for
some kruggerands, american eagles,
etc.

the keyring through the dick is
optional. ;-))


Wig

Serge,

I'll speak with the powers that be and find out. For the record, those results showed 1.47x difference per visitor which is very similar to my own tests last summer on my TGPs (1.49x).
******************************

Colin,
will you agree that unless those tests are comparing apples to aplles they are all worth as much as my old socks from 1997?
;-)))
Serge Webfather and Oprano are MORONS! don't follow them in ANYTHING they do!

I don't buy gold.....I just get PAID in gold. The TRUE international currency. Just let it accmulate.
**************************

I got ya! Unfortunatley, I am not
selling anything. ;-(

But, I can see the benefit of this.
Especially, if what I think will
happen to the US dollar ocurs, this
preserves purchasing power.

And when you redeem it, they pay you
in your currency of choice? Is
there a fee?

Sorry, this wil be my last question. ;-))
Wig

Serge,

I'll speak with the powers that be and find out. For the record, those results showed 1.47x difference per visitor which is very similar to my own tests last summer on my TGPs (1.49x).

Colin,

I couldn't help myself not to comment about your "test" at
http://www.4freebucks.com/

care to expalin how exactly your "test" was performed?

numbers, tests,
that's your territory,
let's talk!

I thought I saw enough claims of "scientific traffic tests" on the net to crash them all with pure logic and common sense they are missing.
Colin Just Ask Colin ...

Timon, all this for a few pounds?
;-)))
Serge in GOLD we Trust....

Timon, can you share safer methods?
**********************************
Serge, fly to Geneva, buy a box of boullions, stash them in a safe in
the basement of the UBS and pierce the keyring through your dick.

Timon

seeing Webfather post the other day reminded me to look at amazon.com profit reports. :-) just out of curiosity.

a VERY interesting thought occured to me.

revenues are declining for people who are trying to sell something that each living organism is driven toward in a serious physiological way.

sex comes third, only to food and water in the basic heirarchy of human physiological needs.

Jeff Bezos built a company that is now worth 4.5 Billion dollars selling something that is not really needed at all... books and CD's

he built a company that is worth more than the entire online adult business put together

one person did that.

if that is not enough to make any porner sit back and think "what am i doing wrong"... or "obviously, this can be done better"...

i do not know what is. ;-))

JR

Seems that anyone who would consider
this would have to do a lot of due
diligence on all the parties involved.
***********************

I suggest calling your local FBI office, I heard they were checking them out and they are still around never the less, but I may be wrong,
http://www.fbi.gov
and let me look for Wired Article about them
Serge in GOLD we Trust....

OK. But, I am more of saver/investor
than spender.
************************************

I don't buy gold.....I just get PAID in gold. The TRUE international currency. Just let it accmulate.


Webfather

Timon,

You misunderstood me. I was not
implying that I would even consider it
as an investment vehicle.

Before the Internet, I spent 12 years
in investment banking and commodities biz. ;-)


Wig

Serge, I am not saying it is not a good payment method, I was
answering Wig's question when he asked what my opinion was
on investing in gold through e-gold to which my honest answer
is that there are safer ways to do that.

Timon
*******************

Timon, can you share safer methods?
I have gold mutual funds and futures...how else can I safely buy gold?
Serge in GOLD we Trust....

http://oprano.com/adrates.html
has been updated
Serge in GOLD we Trust....

OK. But, I am more of saver/investor
than spender. Am I still going to
find it worth something to me? ;-)
Wig

Serge, I am not saying it is not a good payment method, I was
answering Wig's question when he asked what my opinion was
on investing in gold through e-gold to which my honest answer
is that there are safer ways to do that.

Timon