RAM crash and burn? More like take the money and run, I know people who are still trying to collect from undelievered content/cash checks from this joker Andrew Taylor.
Tue, 24 Jul - 14:02:59 213.239.140.219 Post #: 5599
Hehe good one George,
Nah I'm talking about www.rockbottomcontent.com - or "content fer cheap" - quality's not too bad, just wanna know whether these guys are gonna be around for any substantial amount of time.
I'm sure some of you remember RAM Content (real amateur models) and how they crashed and burned *shrug*
Just like to make sure that I spend cash on something that I can use for more than a month :P MadCatGhostField Internet
Tue, 24 Jul - 14:00:20 62.166.33.13 Post #: 5598
Serge
May I unoffically announce the home of the Unofficial StickyAlien show as well:P
How'd you get Forest if you had one of them things on the car? hehe
Oh say hi to the merry folks that were there last night, dunno if they read any boards :D was a blast hehe
Tue, 24 Jul - 13:28:39 213.239.140.221 Post #: 5583
Congrats!!!!!! Serge!!!
Great Deal!!!
Guess this year does not only bring me luck***wish you best!!! LittleC.SERGE & DIG
Tue, 24 Jul - 13:28:17 213.239.140.219 Post #: 5582
Hey Guys,
Just got out of the meeting of the year..(besides the one with Forest..hihihi)
2 Months from now - InterClimax will launch...hehehe..secret!!!
Wanted to go to the gym this morning - got a yellow thing around my tire (wheel) and than the phone ring: "hello it is me Forrest I am still in Amsterdam..can you pick me up from the airport?"
hihihi...he will never leave Amsterdam!!! hihihihi
Anyway - is this bullshit about the misunderstanding still not done?
Okay - I will ben over and you can slep me on my butt for explaning Forest's his intensions..
Isn't it enough when someone says it was not ment that way?
Peaches, amsterdam event is 2 november!!! NOT around the same time of any other show!!!
And my little sister is doing much better I guess you guys were right about it! - Thanks for asking!!!***
Forest saw her and can tell you my little sis is pretty again!!!
She still has some treatment but not that heavy anymore..
Serge,...hihihi....it is always fun on your board!!!...
Tue, 24 Jul - 13:26:34 213.239.140.219 Post #: 5581
My first year on the boards Serge did nothing but piss with me and now LOOK who's board I am sponsoring on?
Any questions?
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and I was 5 mins away from calling the lawyer and sue Dig...and now we gonna announce joint venture, as soon as I come back, which gonna knock everybody socks off!
Perfect point, Serge. So why annoy ARS, Pornication, Python, et al...who have exponentially more clicks than all of the other 179 other webmasters put together?
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c'mon, DJ, you know the answer to this one!!!!!
whom those annoyed gonna remember the most:
Forest who annoyed them or one of the 179 sheep?????
do you remember my pisses with Ron????
guyss who was doing business with him later,
me or thousands of unknown silent soldiers???
Tue, 24 Jul - 13:15:26 142.166.133.164 Post #: 5571
Forrest, whatever your intentions were in the beginning, it is my personal opinion that your reaction to the posts on the boards is childish. You are attacking the gathering, it's host and its sponsors. Remarks such as "Well i wish the greatlakes show much success...Ur gonna need it...
179 webmaster..
bahhhahahahahahahahahahahaha
whats the ROI on that $3?
where are u haveing it?
Burger King? " are uncalled for. Before you got your little feelings hurt, you were all for the gathering. When one stoops to personal attacks it is normally because they have no facts to back up their postion. If you had read through most the posts regarding this, you would have noticed that many of them only asked for clarification of your post. They pointed out IF you were throwing a party during the show, that was tacky, that was all.
The Great Lakes Gathering is a small gathering, that is the whole point. Makes it much easier for webmasters and sponsors to talk on a one to one basis. Too small for you, then plan on January in Vegas.
Tue, 24 Jul - 13:15:19 208.202.106.139 Post #: 5570
DJim,
Heh I will - ofcourse, I'll bitch once you post the details :P
*addition to webmasters: sheep or not*
Advertising wise, as in, how to make yourself known to webmasters; at that point you gotta treat em like sheep and herd em over to your product. When it comes to the daily interaction, then you shouldn't sheepify (that a word?) em IMHO. MadCatGhostField Internet
Tue, 24 Jul - 13:15:15 62.166.33.13 Post #: 5569
Serge,
Webmasters aren't sheep, although some of them can bleat like sheep, and sponsors shave webmasters so that's kinda sheep like... hrm..
Ok in all seriousness, I think it's just a bad idea to treat webmasters like a herd of sheep, it ain't gonna do you any good *shrug* If I could choose between 10 smart webmasters who don't wanna be sheep, and 1000 sheep webmasters, I'll take the 10. In the long run, they're gonna make me more money, and be a more valuable partner to work with.
Tue, 24 Jul - 13:11:50 213.239.140.221 Post #: 5565
MadCat,
the more folks talk, the less is obviuos where the discussion started and the topic of this particular discussion is,
WEBMASTERS....Sheep or Not???
Tue, 24 Jul - 13:09:43 213.239.140.221 Post #: 5562
Perfect point, Serge. So why annoy ARS, Pornication, Python, et al...who have exponentially more clicks than all of the other 179 other webmasters put together?
Doesn't seem like smart decision making. But what do I know...
Toolz,
if I was a prospective atendee,
I'd definatelly go!
seeing sponsors fighting for my immortal soul makes me warm and fuzzy....look at MadCat,
he is aMINORITY,
the majority is gonna thank you for the ride you saved them from!
;_))
Serge more FAMOUS sites to promote! from the minds of ARS!!!
Tue, 24 Jul - 13:07:09 12.89.183.69 Post #: 5558
Diamond Jim,
I was on the side of logic, and logic dictates that one waits before bitching until all data's available.
As far as people fucking my wife, good luck, because I ain't married :D
Even if I would be, it's a friggin webmaster board, so someone posts they're gonna fuck my wife 20 ways from sunday, details to follow. I'll wait for the details until I'm going to bitch about it.
Dunno, maybe I'm just the weird nutcase around here, but my momma taught me never to bitch unless there's a damn good reason to bitch.
"If Forest was gonna have an after-hours party, and he has this limo sitting around all day doing naff all - why can't he just offer rides? If he's gonna drive around anyway, might as well take some passengers along. That's just being economic. Not to mention pretty nice of him to share the ride eh?"
MadCat,
I expected Serge to respond for Forest because he knows Forest wouldn't be able to worm out of it himself. You beat Serge to it.
Might be, but webmasters with a brain are also the ones getting the most $ ;)
The affiliate program I coded and help run has a few of those smart ones. They get $1k+ payouts every 2 weeks. There's a ton of sheep. They get $23 every 2 weeks.
Well, 50 posts less or not, if you read Forest's post where he mentions the party, he _said_ he'd post details, so I think it's proper to wait until full details are available before pissing.
Same as taking your car to the garage, then bitching at the mechanic because he says "it's broken, I'll give you a full report in an hour". Wait till you get the report, then bitch. (okay sucky analogy but it works for me)
Monk,
If Forest was gonna have an after-hours party, and he has this limo sitting around all day doing naff all - why can't he just offer rides? If he's gonna drive around anyway, might as well take some passengers along. That's just being economic. Not to mention pretty nice of him to share the ride eh?
Yet another 2 cents. I'm gonna go broke this way :( hehe
he is doing fine, he is doing much beter job than those who put him and LittleC in the corner...
Serge , more FAMOUS sites to promote! form the minds of ARS!!!
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Why should it change now? I have no idea - I just like to think out of the box :P
Perhaps I don't like to be treated like a sheep, that could be one reason. I'm me, and if y'all can't deal with that, I have 2 select words for you: "bugger off" :D
In other words; leave people to make their own choices, don't treat em like sheep - I hate it, and I'm probably not the only one. Think about this for a minute; there are a few sponsors out there that have an attitude like they're Gods greatest gift to webmasters because they _pay_ em - news flash: you exist because of the webmasters - give em what they want, and you get to live long and prosper. Treat em like a bunch of no-brain sheep, and they'll boogie out to someone who gives em what they want - we all know that .. right? right.
I'm sure Forest and LittleC are great people, that's not the point. The point is not what was said, it's what WASN'T said. If what WASN'T said would've been said from the get-go, this board would've had 50 fewer posts. You're welcome, Serge!!! ;D
I'll throw in my 2 cents here; I hung out with Forest and LittleC yesterday (w00t!) and I for one really think some people oughta pipe down. If he wants to throw a party, at least wait until details are available before ya start bitching.
If you're so damn worried about 'hijacking' people from the convention, you might want to throw in the aspect of 'free choice' - so what? If people want to ride a limo and hang with Forest for a drink, then damn well let them.
*shrug* I might be biased, all I know is that Forest knows how to party, and I think it's pretty strange for people to bitch, whine, moan and piss around about a party that was announced 'in passing' without any solid details being available.
Anyhow, it ain't my place to tell people what to do and what not to do, so y'all can figure it out yourselves, I'm on Forest's side.
B) however, if it's a mass everyone's invited function, have the decency to coordinate it with the people throwing the show.
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if I ever lose my mind and decide to throw a party in Vegas,
I'll throw it during the
scheduled event parties, and enjoy more free promotion than the scheduled functions themselves!
;-)))
Its my ambition to hold a conference in Bangkok where nobody shows up for the meetings and just parties for three (or four or five ....) days.
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As a matter of fact I don't even want any sponsors. We can just set a date, tell the wives there is a conference and decide on a list of bars and clubs where we might run into each other and maybe discuss some business.
People can only react to what they read, Forest. You may have had decent intentions but people can only react to what you actually SAY, not what you meant.
This exchange should be posted for all new sponsors to read for when they want to throw a party during a show. Proves two simple points:
A) Articulate clearly, saves much shit-jumping;
B) If it's an invite-only function or occuring after hours, vaya con dios; however, if it's a mass everyone's invited function, have the decency to coordinate it with the people throwing the show.
Seems businesslike to me, but I know some people will disagree.
Our webmaster DB is quite large and we've found the most effective way to communicate with our active webmasters is through the news area and the messageboards within ARS as well as press announcements and postings on select public message boards.
Tue, 24 Jul - 12:31:38 64.174.156.146 Post #: 5521
I stopped promoting audited sponsor a while ago so thats why I didnt get a letter, because there was no check to send with it.
In a small % of people there would still be links out there going to audited sponsor codes, who just didnt send enough to get a check last period and therefore a letter.
My only issue with the price points is your announement ecspecially on the ARS board doesnt tell the webmasters that this is a different product, and needs to be promoted differently.
Is there a reason ARS doesnt do email announcements? A lot of people dont read boards, would be good for those webmasters to be told of the 9 new audited sponsor sites and now the voyeur dorm sites.
Tue, 24 Jul - 12:31:06 203.109.202.16 Post #: 5520
"If you all had waited till thurs when I said I would post Details....None of this would have happened...But Instead you all wanted to jump my shit..."
If you would've articulated clearly, using the words "after hours" in your intial post, you would've had no shit to jump. ;D
Tue, 24 Jul - 12:27:11 213.239.140.221 Post #: 5517
ThrobX
If you all had waited till thurs when I said I would post Details....None of this would have happened...But Instead you all wanted to jump my shit...
NOW I will spend more $$$ on Our parties to show webmasters the difference.....
and ANYONE can bring there own limo...But they have to supply there own trannies...Mine are tied up with JMM for the rest of the year
Like I said earlier the $34.95 price points were established price points on the Voyeur Dorm and Dude Dorm that had been working nicely, again this is a different product than a regular adult site. If initial conversions are unacceptable look to see trials very quickly.
As far as auditedsponsor we mailed an announcement with all the last checks that went out, the links will stay active for 45 days and we've noticed about 90% have changed out their links already.
Tue, 24 Jul - 12:23:45 209.176.118.51 Post #: 5514
"We were looking at after hours kinda stuff....
but no one gave be the benifit of the doubt....as always they just jump........"
Well, that's a horse of a different color! Like I said, Forest, articulate yourself clearly and misunderstandings like this won't happen. I think everyone can agree on that point.
Toolz,
I never had any intention of holding a party Durring any sheduled event they might have,,,,
We were looking at after hours kinda stuff....
but no one gave be the benifit of the doubt....as always they just jump........
Just from a webmasters point of view the difference in selling a $2.95 trial and a $4.95 trial is very minor, but dude dorm and voyeur dorm have only 30 day $30+ options which is a harder sell. Big difference from the free voyeur dorm CE was marketing.
Would be good to make the ARS webmasters aware of the price points for those who just assume it will be like the other $2.95 sites.
Also, I was wondering will there be an email accounement made by audited sponsor to its previous webmasters about the closure of the program for those who dont read boards etc? If not that traffic is going to not be paid for soon..
Tue, 24 Jul - 12:18:50 203.109.202.16 Post #: 5507
As far as the limo is concerned the convention is at the Casino, all clubs/bars/strip joints/hotels are less than 2 blocks away, really no need for any extra transportation.
Tue, 24 Jul - 12:15:09 213.239.140.221 Post #: 5503
Forest,
I think you misunderstood the organizers, they would have preferred you contact them before you start arranging parties to coincide with thier schedule.
As far as the limo is concerned the convention is at the Casino, all clubs/bars/strip joints/hotels are less than 2 blocks away, really no need for any extra transportation.