Nick,
c'mon,
have mercy on his soul, you do better today than joee.
You have your health, your wife, live with your kids,
don't have a 50% partner,
nobody spreas rumors about you,
your AOL account is prepaid for a year,
Voltar's Board guys and gals know who you are, and never heard of JoeE or his companies,
you think he wouldn't rather lose $30k and get the peace of mind you enjoy?
Fri, 09 Nov - 15:13:19 24.255.27.154 Post #: 31399
I am everything my online personna is.
I'm a mean spirited, unflinching, violent, educated, sharp witted, and pyschotic powder puff.
Who wants some?
NotAnthony
Fri, 09 Nov - 15:12:27 208.181.212.140 Post #: 31398
Mike
there is a difference, during my photoshoot, cj was standing there camera in hand...there were no scantily clad men standing around squirting each others' ass with waterhoses ;)))
______________________
You could be bringing this fantasy a little to far Sykk. :-) I dont remember saying anything about squirting asses. :-)
Fri, 09 Nov - 14:55:10 172.162.90.66 Post #: 31385
I also heard from someone in this industry that the cost for Brad Shaw's party will be less then Joe Elkland from CEN spends on coke, and hookers.
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Oh puuuhhlleeze!
this is one of the most inaccurate posts I ever seen!
1) it's ELKIND, not Elkland
2) CEN? what's CEN?
3) I don't know about hookers, that's very private affair, but..
I being in his BOTH houses and I NEVER seen him doing coke, NEVER!
Fri, 09 Nov - 14:52:34 172.162.90.66 Post #: 31384
who are we to tell him how to live or conduct business?
Serge BMW stock is UP in Europe
Fri, 09 Nov 2001 02:46:39 - IP: 172.162.90.66 - Post # 31379
errr the phrase Judge ,jury and executioner comes to mind.
Like the sound of joee's parties though. ;))
Nick
Fri, 09 Nov - 14:52:20 24.69.255.204 Post #: 31383
Mike
there is a difference, during my photoshoot, cj was standing there camera in hand...there were no scantily clad men standing around squirting each others' ass with waterhoses ;))) SykkBoyMaking Bank -- EZ as Money in the Bank
Fri, 09 Nov - 14:50:14 24.234.22.206 Post #: 31382
Edd,
Ya know, for all my experience running a Webmaster Resource, I forgot to check IP Addy's. =o)
It's all in good fun. =o)
Anthony
Fri, 09 Nov - 14:48:38 208.181.212.140 Post #: 31381
2 joins now? since when did it go up? geez, times must be tough ;)))
Fri, 09 Nov - 14:47:31 24.234.22.206 Post #: 31380
Serge .....your silence can be bought?
******************
well, I offered it for free,
but he insisted on paying...
let's go back to 1997...
I met Joe Elkind in March,
in the days when he was chased by creditors who couldn't collect on bandwidth bills,
bad mouthed by UAS for some stories with female employees,
he seemed like a nice jewish boy with no clue about either business or recurrings.
In 5 months after following some of my advices,
he was in much better shape and insisted on paying back as a token of his appreciation.
I was making a nice coin and didn't need his money,
jews tend to help each other in Russia without asking much in return,
I followed my roots.
He wanted me to say good things about his company,
but...I couldn't, and I told him that.
He sent checks anyway,
and that's what I call
"being paid for keeping mouth shut"
joee is a good egg in private company,
but his insecurity manifests itself in his "public persona", which is VERY different from real life joe.
He slept in my house,
and even had no problems paying me back $100 5 months later,
I lend him for gas to visit his mom when he was visiting NJ.
If he wasn't trying making himself ASSHOLE of the year on the board,
he'd get more in life, but...
who are we to tell him how to live or conduct business?
Serge BMW stock is UP in Europe
Fri, 09 Nov - 14:46:39 172.162.90.66 Post #: 31379
Nick,
Let's not fuck about, just send me your phone number, we'll hook up. No need to waste your time sending in signups.
=)
NotAnthony
Fri, 09 Nov - 14:46:07 208.181.212.140 Post #: 31378
Or send 2 joins and win sex with Anthony.
Nick
Fri, 09 Nov - 14:45:00 24.69.255.204 Post #: 31377
Mutt - thanks but I have to give credit to Serge - it was his idea to clean things up!
Anthony - I know EXACTLY what you mean! ....notice how the Dark One and I somehow have the same IP? hmmm... how could that happen? ;)
3rd day in a row Mayor McCockholster of Porn City with the same fucking spam.
whatever happened to that thumbnail stealing thing he had?
why do these companies like INsite and WEG waste their money on paying out webmasters, paying employees, buying advertising when the good Mayor of Cockholsterville has a better way? What is wrong with everybody?
MAYOR McSPAM 4 PRESIDENT IN '04!!!
mutt
Fri, 09 Nov - 14:44:46 24.112.37.86 Post #: 31375
Just an addition...
If you think this is a joke, NO, we'll go buy you a damn new one.
Spec'd up to what you want. =o)
100,000 signups!
Anthony
Fri, 09 Nov - 14:43:07 208.181.212.140 Post #: 31374
Mike,
I'm pushing the "elite" from this company to get the work done; we don't do nothing in halves, and our friends especially get a priority over any business dealings ;-)
Fri, 09 Nov - 14:42:01 216.66.64.207 Post #: 31373
Mike,
I'm pushing the "elite" from this company to get the work done; we don't do nothing in halves, and our friends especially get a priority over any business dealings ;-)
Fri, 09 Nov - 14:39:43 63.100.104.31 Post #: 31369
Serge/Mikey How are you fellas?! :)
Tukhman
**********************
Tukh,
we are fine,
keeping ourselves busy with new and fresh ideas,
kinda like "young bucks"
;-)))
Serge BMW stock is UP in Europe
Fri, 09 Nov - 14:37:34 172.162.90.66 Post #: 31368
Serge .....your silence can be bought?
i am very disillusioned, i must take to my bed for awhile
mutt
Fri, 09 Nov - 14:36:42 24.112.37.86 Post #: 31367
errr I think I'm a hitter BUT>>>>>>
If I joined cencash it would take me about 2 yrs (if the unrecorded signups did not occur) to win Modena.Ah well no room to park it by the porsche and the benzes ;)))
Fri, 09 Nov - 14:30:41 63.100.104.31 Post #: 31364
Very interesting story I just posted about the further mainstreaming of porn. A very big name in Hollywood movies is putting out softcore porn without his name on it. This is going to keep happening, one day you will see Disney own a porn production company, softcore, the rest of them will be doing Filthy Humpin Whores #42 right along side American Pie #9.
Serge must be teaching webmasters his OLD tricks...
********************************
are you talking about "tricks" you paid me $3000 a month to not to talk about your company on the boards in 1997?
Those "tricks" kept you out of troubles, and you even had some respect in webmastering community.
********************************
joee, There is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. wanna see?
********************************
The only pot you have is a pot Steven Case pisses his golden shower into.
My biggest fear in life is when he goes thru your financial records-
my name might come up as a recepient of your checks.
Serge
Fri, 09 Nov - 14:29:39 172.162.90.66 Post #: 31362
You should have seen all three of us in short shorts, and cut off shirts soaping up all the cars!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Fri, 09 Nov - 14:28:09 24.234.22.206 Post #: 31360
Serge, maybe you should tell your friend JoeE that the budget for the party we are throwing comes from pocket change, cutting coupons, and the neighborhood carwash Brad, Billy and I worked at 2 weeks ago.
You should have seen all three of us in short shorts, and cut off shirts soaping up all the cars!
Now that would be a coup......Serge interviews Larry Flynt live!
********************************
naaahhh,
I'd rather interview Amber and what has she done to corrupt his mind with such a devios plan!
;-)))
she is MUCH prettier than Larry!
Serge
Fri, 09 Nov - 14:11:12 172.162.90.66 Post #: 31354
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, you kill me D.O.
I wasn't welcoming you to the board. I was welcoming you to the delusional brood.
I'm gonna have to stop posting under different Nicks, it's hard to keep which personality goes with each one. Pain in da ass. =o)
St. Anthony
Fri, 09 Nov - 14:06:43 208.181.212.140 Post #: 31353
I'd thank you for the welcome Anthony but I've actually been posting here since day one - As I am the consummate lurker my posts tend to be few and far between. But for some odd reason on this lovely friday afternoon I've found myself more gregarious than usual... I must be coming down with something.
As for my delusions - make no mistake, mortal. I possess the souls of all you godless heathens, capitolist idolators and pornmongers - lock, stock, and barrel. The more fortunate amongst you (Nick and yourself included) may count yourselves amongst my crew if it makes your damnation any easier for you to stomach. You will all still roast.
I turn the screws,
The Dark One (Prince of Dimmness)
Fri, 09 Nov - 14:03:41 63.100.104.9 Post #: 31352
Now that would be a coup......Serge interviews Larry Flynt live!
I bet he'd do it. He loves to talk. If he just spoke to 600 Harvard students why not 600 idiots like us?
mutt
Fri, 09 Nov - 13:58:35 24.112.37.86 Post #: 31351
Yer fucked then Moose.
At least tell me you got a BBQ pit out of it!
Sorry. =o)
NotAnthony
Fri, 09 Nov - 13:53:43 208.181.212.140 Post #: 31350
Serge,
4pm is good too.
Ill email you directions.
voodooman Zmaster
Fri, 09 Nov - 13:52:04 64.135.69.178 Post #: 31349
"he's getting a house custom built to his specs. "
Fri, 09 Nov - 13:51:57 63.100.104.31 Post #: 31348
The Dark One...
Illusion is one of his favorite tricks... Delusion seems to be yours. =o)
Welcome to the Brood.
Anthony
Fri, 09 Nov - 13:50:23 208.181.212.140 Post #: 31347
"Satanatilynx will be perusing the board shortly, I will inform him of your acquiescence."
Anthony, I'm scheduling you for an MRI. Acquiescence, indeed. Inform The Scourge that I will return later in the day...giving him more than sufficient time to run his finger along the posts, move his lips, then have someone clean his computer screen.
Mutt I'd like you to go to your desk and open the small drawer on the left side and look all the way in the back for the little black velvet box.... open it... do you see the silver 9mm bullet? That is the on you will be "capped" with for your flagrant use of wiggerspeak on the board. Aww-ite?
DN and Anthony - No I am not Nick, although his evil tendencies do oft cause him to be associated or confused with me. He is merely one of my puppets on this planet, as all of you are.
Do my bidding and save 25% or more,
The Dark One (Prince of Dimmness)
Fri, 09 Nov - 13:43:37 64.135.69.178 Post #: 31342
another side note....
Mr. Flynt,
please forgive me if I am off the mark,
but OPRANO spirit dictates me to
poke a hole in what I believe is a "master plan"
Guys,
as you all know-
most of ISP's CACHE the pages and if you change your links on 14th,
chances are the surfers never see them on the 14th and you get nada on the 14th,
while Mr. Flynt will pay you sign ups at lower rates from cached pages you changed on 14th looking for $75.
but....
you can BEAT him in his own game!
change your links on SUNDAY! the 11th and have them be in full force on 14th!
Fri, 09 Nov - 13:33:38 172.162.90.66 Post #: 31337
OK. Apparently the Gates of Hell have opened and there are demons to the right...demons to the left...rather cozy in a Village of the Damned kind of way.... ;-))))
Antonio...tell Satanatilynx that his diuturnity is a matter of record and is eagerly anticipated by the female sacrificial lambs and the male sacrificial lambs have broken out of the pen and were last seen trembling on a bus headed south....
Also tell his Royal Shitness that he won the bet...I had to look it up....
:-)))))))
DN
The Diction Nazi
Fri, 09 Nov - 13:30:52 24.5.50.121 Post #: 31336
DN,
men LOVE to talk,
I just listen...
;-)))
Serge
Fri, 09 Nov - 13:27:57 172.162.90.66 Post #: 31335
Antonio
Im not the one rolling in the benz and living on that hill with all the other millionaires.
;-)
Moose
Fri, 09 Nov - 13:27:15 66.75.12.83 Post #: 31334
Moose,
Fuck off.
Antonio
Fri, 09 Nov - 13:24:52 208.181.212.140 Post #: 31333
DN,
Ahem... The Dark One is no ways Satanatilynx.
There can only be one, and I'm fucked cause I work with him.
Oh well, they got good tee times down there I heard.
NotAnthony
Fri, 09 Nov - 13:23:54 208.181.212.140 Post #: 31332
maybe the FBI got him before he destroy our server
how bout them Minnesota Twins!!!
Bud Selig is just a major pantload and cockholster. Baseball got less than 24 hours of the best pub it's had in years and then Bud goes and pisses all over it.
Contraction is a joke. It solves nothing. Unless the owners agree to meaningful revenue sharing the players will do nothing.....and shouldn't.
Baseball is headed towards armageddon. Hockey two years from now same thing.
that's yer morning sports report
dont forget about the Oprano Pickem game!
Marie is mocking you all, she laughs at your puny pathetic picks, she is hiding in her cave counting the thousand dollars already and picking out the most expensive item on the Arby's menu in Vegas where Mike and Serge are taking the winner of the Pickem.
----
then it would be such a loaded question, would it?
----
hahaha... and it wouldn't be nearly as fun to talk about either ;-)))
Hooper Number... Naaaaaaahhhhh
Fri, 09 Nov - 13:14:41 66.68.122.196 Post #: 31322
Tell Satan the altar is built and the candles are ready to be lit. Ask him if he wants a little "private time" with the sacrificial lambs, as ususal. ;-)))))
Fri, 09 Nov - 13:05:16 24.19.254.104 Post #: 31317
Bubba
Im not a processor...but send lots of free joins
From my experience its around 40%
Of course this could have to do with my shitty traffic also ;-)
Moose Go!
Fri, 09 Nov - 13:03:57 66.75.12.83 Post #: 31316
I take no pride in my ability to get you *out* of bed, Sykkboy. ;-))))
DN
The Diction Nazi
Fri, 09 Nov - 13:03:20 24.5.50.121 Post #: 31315
uh oh, no wonder I wasn't able to sleep in....DN has made an appearance :)
I was sleeping soundly and bolted upright with an urge to check the boards....I think that ringing phone can only mean one thing: Time-Life will be calling me for their next book.... SykkBoyBank - make it or panhandle in front of it
Fri, 09 Nov - 13:00:55 24.234.22.206 Post #: 31314
1) Active member proggies are almost always based around free trials which tend to convert 2-3 times as well as paid trials.
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Fri, 09 Nov - 12:59:29 24.19.254.104 Post #: 31313
Hey, Antonio! (Antonio????) Goth Mom alive and well. :-)))
Tell Satan the altar is built and the candles are ready to be lit. Ask him if he wants a little "private time" with the sacrificial lambs, as ususal. ;-)))))
DN
The Diction Nazi
Fri, 09 Nov - 12:56:48 24.5.50.121 Post #: 31312
I'd rather take $100 per whatever from General than $1000 for whatever from somebody I don't know well.
************************
I would like to expand on this statement.
"Getting to Know You..."
is a Due Dilligence work,
good lawyers pride themselves on.
Don't become "ambulance chasers" and go for every button advertised on webmastering boards,
ads are CHEAP,
and some boards would NEVER talk about negative aspects of their sponsors.
Not at Oprano.
At Oprano - everybody are equal and NOBODY is more equal than another,
money motivate us to a certain degree only,
and THE TRUTH is a bigger
attraction than just "dead presidents" alone.
we proved it several times, and we don't believe that
as one of our former sponsors (LittlePee) put it and I quote from memory:
Times magazine shouldn't publish data about smoking caused cancer if it accepts money for Marlboro ads.
Fri, 09 Nov - 12:54:50 172.162.90.66 Post #: 31311
Corvo...it's difficult to be a civilized man in a primitive world. As demonstrated by the misguided, misinformed and no doubt inbred security guards, the good guys don't always win no matter how right they may be. The momentary gratification provided by beating the assholes into slime would have most likely backfired on you terribly.
My brother was on the receiving end of one of those incidents in a nice college bar. A "local" came in, looked at my brother's ski sweater and glasses and tidy haircut and assumed he was just your average college nerdling sitting having a beer. He attempted to grab my brother around the neck as my brother stood and discovered my nerdling brother was also a football player. My brother returned the neck grab and remembers vividly thinking "don't squeeze too hard you'll hurt the little shit." While he was thinking that, the local pulled out a knife and slit my brother's throat, severing both the carotid and the jugular. Ambulance response time was rapid and surgery tied off both carotid and jugular, so for the rest of his life my brother has to watch his blood pressure and think about irony and how nice guys finish last. As the whole thing never would have happened if my brother had just stood rapidly and punched the local's face in, I have absolutely no idea what the moral of this story is.
Don't ever feel bad about decent behavior. Second guessing yourself will drive you mad. Better to feel rotten than take a trip to either the morgue or prison.
Hang in there.
DN
The Diction Nazi
Fri, 09 Nov - 12:50:45 24.5.50.121 Post #: 31310
-----
question for Colin and the mathematician's out there
which would be the better deal:
1. a sponsor paying $35 or $40 per free join (active member)
2. a sponsor paying $42 per trial join period
any comments???
-------
Ok... here it goes :-)
Of course the party line has to get thrown in here bubba. "There are so many factors that go into a program that in the end only the profit per click based on YOUR OWN counters is what matters"
Butttt.... for the sake of making it clear why sometimes 35-40 per active member is better than 40 per signup.
1) Active member proggies are almost always based around free trials which tend to convert 2-3 times as well as paid trials. So while with the same traffic I might have made 1 sale on a per-join program, i might have made 3 joins and 2 or 1 actives on a per-active proggy. Result? It certainly will vary, but my clicks generated the same revenue through either program.
2) For webmasters who have high quality traffic, a join program is a very bad idea because the per-join prices are based on aggregate traffic data, not on performance data. So while per-join proggy's are great for crap traffic, per actives are performance based and can thus result in a much higher return for the advanced webmaster.
Now i'll be the first to admit that there are probably 2 holes for every word i typed above, however when asking a question such as you did, you must make VERY SPECIFIC questions such as:
I have 20k uniques a day of __(fill in the blank.. e.g. tgp, se, cj)___ traffic to send to a sponsor.
Historically my traffic has converted at __(fill in the blank)__ based on my own first page counts.
I tried a per-active program from ___(fill in the blank)___ and about __(fill in a % here)__ of my joins became active with conversions of ___(fill in a conversion ratio)__ based on my own first page counts of __(fill in your counts)__.
I earned ___(fill in a $value)___ per active member. At program __(fill in the blank)__ I get (full/no) exit console credits, (credit/no credit) for checking signups, (credit/no credit) for dialer revenue, __(fill in a % here)__ of my traffic gets sent back to me after the sponsor can not convert them.
I tried a per-join program from ___(fill in the blank)___ and had conversions of ___(fill in a conversion ratio)__ based on my own first page counts of __(fill in your counts)__.
I earned ___(fill in a $value)___ per join. At program __(fill in the blank)__ I get (full/no) exit console credits, (credit/no credit) for checking signups, (credit/no credit) for dialer revenue, __(fill in a % here)__ of my traffic gets sent back to me after the sponsor can not convert them.
Now that you've answered all of the above questions... answer the following two as well:
I (did/didn't) get my check from __(fill in program name)__ and it cleared the bank.
I (did/didn't) get switched to a lower paying rate at __(fill in program name)__
I (did/didn't) get my check from __(fill in program name)__ and it cleared the bank.
I (did/didn't) get switched to a lower paying rate at __(fill in program name)__
Hooper Number... Naaaaaaahhhhh
Fri, 09 Nov - 12:49:53 66.68.122.196 Post #: 31309
Diction Nazi,
Hola Chica! How's my fave Goth Mom?
Hope all is well, I'll let Satan know you are out and about. =o)
===============
CJ,
What's that thing your are talking about you did research on?
=o)
Antonio
Fri, 09 Nov - 12:48:33 208.181.212.140 Post #: 31308
Fri, 09 Nov - 12:46:54 24.19.254.104 Post #: 31307
Bubba,
thanks,
we try our best and the only small correction I would like to make to your statement is:
so basically the bottom line as always is how
many pieces of green paper with dead presidents
on them that one ends up with at the end of the LIFE OF THE SPONSOR's PROGRAM.
Serge
Fri, 09 Nov - 12:45:46 172.162.90.66 Post #: 31306
Bubba, give me 5 mins, it's coming, and it might not be good, but CORRECT answer.
Serge no breakage allowed, sore spots only! ;-))
Fri, 09 Nov 2001 12:28:36 - IP: 172.162.90.66 - Post # 31300
correct and a good answer :-)))
just what I expected
so basically the bottom line as always is how
many pieces of green paper with dead presidents
on them that one ends up with at the end of the day
Fri, 09 Nov - 12:40:40 24.19.254.104 Post #: 31305
i should have broken his fucking arm and ripped his eyeballs out of their fucking sockets with my thumbs!!!!!
but no, i blocked, and asked why. arrrghh!! i hate that!!!!
*******************************
Corvo,
I can only recomend good 'ole movie classic:
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
"When you come to shoot-
shoot,
don't talk"
;-))
Fri, 09 Nov - 12:38:19 172.162.90.66 Post #: 31304
part two.
he had two friends too, either side of me.
they decided to look threatening, while i had the first guys arm locked. and one of them threatened to hurt me with a knife (verbally).
woop dee fucking do da, a knife.
vass was trying to say i was with him, a friend, and all the rest.
no-one listened.
i was still on autopilot ofcourse.
anyway, security came down, and get this, this is fucking absurd, they surrounded vass, thone only guy who did not do shit, at all, and took him outside. i extracted myself and followed him.
ofcourse, outside, everything started to hurt, etc.
and we were both annoyed.
me, psychotically, very much so.
not a nice night
Corvo
Fri, 09 Nov - 12:34:38 210.84.87.104 Post #: 31303
Bubba,
it ALL depends on WHO is paying those $42 per sign up....
How much Busty Amateurs were paying???
Did it help Tro that they were paying MORE than others if he lost all his "partnership" earning over nite?
The second factor to concider,
I recall some sponsors who were paying $42 per sign up and were loved by anybody,
untill now when webmastering boards talk nothing but their 1:20,000 conversion rates.
to answer your question in laymen's terms-
I'd rather take $100 per whatever from General than $1000 for whatever from somebody I don't know well.
Fri, 09 Nov - 12:33:53 172.162.90.66 Post #: 31302
well, here goes.
me and vass got dropped off in the valley after the reception, and we went out.
first to the press club, he knew ppl there, we hung, and then we headed up to bravo (never been there before) it was nice. we went through two bottles of bolli, talked to his friends and hung out.
i met this cute chick, ended up exchanging brief massages :)
then vass wanted to go, i tried to get her phone number, but she said she would like to get to know me more (i.e, me going to bravo more) before she did.
i was disappointed, but ok with that, and we went to the family.
that was vass's idea. i do not like the place, but by then, he seemed to need to be baby sat.
so we got there, he talked to ppl he knew and we didn't have to pay cover. it was ok inside. despite the suits we did a bit on the dance floor, he flirted like crazy, and a pleasent time was had by all.
until some fucking dick for brains decided to pick me.
i was walking over to vass, and he blocked me. i was nice, i always am, and he still blocked me. then he kicked me in the shin. now i was suprised. i was still suprised when he headbutted me. now instinct kicked in. this is the part that bugs me. he tried to elbow my face, and all i did was block him. thats it, just fucking block. its always like that. when push comes to brawl, that takes over, i feel no pain, i react automatically (thank public schooling) but i never am more violent then needs be. i should have broken his fucking arm and ripped his eyeballs out of their fucking sockets with my thumbs!!!!!
but no, i blocked, and asked why. arrrghh!! i hate that!!!!
Corvo
Fri, 09 Nov - 12:30:22 210.84.87.104 Post #: 31301