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i·ro·ny (r-n, r-)
n. pl. i·ro·nies

The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning.
An expression or utterance marked by a deliberate contrast between apparent and intended meaning.
A literary style employing such contrasts for humorous or rhetorical effect. See Synonyms at wit1.

Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs: “Hyde noted the irony of Ireland's copying the nation she most hated” (Richard Kain).
An occurrence, result, or circumstance notable for such incongruity. See Usage Note at ironic.
Dramatic irony.
Socratic irony.

grimm Xingster

""Foreign policy is an ugly business, it is not always about right and wrong, and morals""

Mike what is clear cut about right or wrong or morals?

It is as true now as what I truly belive..

"I have the morals I can afford"

Morals vary,as does right and wrong.There is no black and white,only shades of grey.
Nick

Grimm I do not think the Taliban know how to count. of course if they want to line up 300,000 holy fighters you think they would have done it to knock out the 15,000 rebels who control the north part of their country.

Mike AI Brad - we know it was you!
Mon, 24 Sep 2001 04:49:26 - IP: 63.100.104.31 - Post # 20042

Mike..i was thinking the same thing. They cannot squash the rebels that control 5% of their country

and now the russians have pledged to provide the rebels with weapons.

not a good idea...
grimm Xingster

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Enforcer, we beleive in all of these things - but it is not our place to force other people to beleive in it. We do try to have countries do the right things ( in our opinion), and reward them with carrots ( economic aid, trade, etc...) Infact the past 5 years we have sent more aid to afgnaistan then any other country? Why is that?

But in Real Politik we have to do in the long run what is best in OUR interest. Human rights, democracy in other contries is in out best interest in the long run - but one cannot force people to it. There has never been tehse kinds of liberties where it was instilled from a third party - it always has to come from the people inside the country.

So therefore, we should do what is in OUR best interest. No need to fight in Africa working out wars between tribes - but we did support South Africa who abused civil rights. Why is that? Because having S. Africa as an allie at the time was important. Their posistion, and their strategic minierals made them important to our cold war defense.

Foreign policy is an ugly business, it is not always about right and wrong, and morals.

Like our founding father said, there is no permanent nation alliances, on permandent nation interests.

I am heading home...
Mike AI Brad put your tally wacker back in your pants please......

Yes, Serge,

I see that the realist argument could easily apply there.

On the one hand, a patriotic American says "I am willing to die for Freedom in the US." Might a patriotic "Earthian" say "I am willing to due for Freedom in the World"?

Patriotism for one's country is great. I am a patriot. I am also, for the first time, willing to look at the possibility of being a Patriot for my world.

People die for their country. Why not for their planet?
Colin "Ask Colin why he stand up against Injustice"! Live Tonight! 8pm ET!

Mike,

Here is the Hatred I see from the most popular religions in the US. Killing a man for having homosexual sex.

"If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them." - Leviticus 20:13

Here is the inhumanity I see from religion. The Old Testament is pro-slavery!

"Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property." - Leviticus 25:44-45

I personally find these books offensive to all of humankind. I feel I must stand up against them.
They have been and probably will once again be followed many people.

They books are Hatred!
They are Injustice!
They are Evil!

I am willing to stand up and say that. No interpretation of these passages can make them good.

Colin "Ask Colin why he stand up against Injustice"! Live Tonight! 8pm ET!

ok, I am out for dinner, my nephew is flying to Florida on Thursday,
lets live, we owe it to the ones who perished.

BTW, Billy and Co and LieWhoa, and me will be having big dinner on Sunday after he gets from the football game at Meadowlands,
life goes on.

Serge

Just to play Devil's Advocate on this position Mike...

How can one espouse to believe and be for peace, freedom, and human rights while sitting back and allowing abuses of such thingswe believe in to go on??

TheEnforcer Isn't it about time you started Making Bank?

MikeAI, only because we SAW how the other side of the fence looks like.
Serge

Serge we are eye to eye on this whole thing. I do not think there is a more patriotic person then you!

I would say that many people with similiar backgrounds as you Serge - those who came to the US from countries that were not free, are probably some of the staunchist Patriots around!

Mike AI It wasn't me......

Funny none of them are ready to pack their bags and move to Afganistan to live!

When I read things like this it makes me irate.

Mike AI
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I packed my bags and moved to America.
I hated USSR and I showed it in deed.

Can you imagine how those fuckers IRRATE me????????????

I wish Stalin was alive and sent them personal invitation!
Serge

My question if whether we should.
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Colin,
I don't want my son go to Africa to save zulus from tutus or vice versa...we, the America, have no interest there and we can't cure all ills of the world, let's be realists.
Serge

Enjoy your dinner Serge and I definately agree about the gettingback to normal part inyour post... :>))

TheEnforcer Isn't it about time you started Making Bank?

Enforcer,

I would lose. I do not know Serge as well as Serge does. He may SAY he is not a good person. He has given me every indication to the contrary.

A good person, we are taught, is humble. Serge is showing humility. He may be good yet.
Colin "Ask Colin"! Live Tonight! 8pm ET!

Serge you are correct about previous terrorsits attacks on the US. As long as they did damage on foreign soil, we as a country condemned it but seemed willing to let is slide. It was almost some type of arrangement. ( of course if I had been President after the first attack on any Embassy, Ship, I would have moved to take out the Terrorsits and those who supported them) BUT having said this, it might have been politically difficult for a President to do this job.

It has taken an attack on US soil, of tremendous numbers, displayed on TV for everyone to see for Americans to get worked up - and for them to support the President to do what they need to do.

I can only hope and pray that Bush finally takes care of the problem.

Religion is not the problem, if it was not "religion" then it would be some other idea - some other form of control.

I read some accounts of a teach in on the campus of North Carolina - where it seems the falculty is composed of America-haters. I read how the US is the one who caused his attack. When I read things like this it makes me irate. http://www.washtimes.com/national/inpolitics.htm You can read about it here. This makes me sick, amazing how many haters are out there.

Funny none of them are ready to pack their bags and move to Afganistan to live!

Mike AI It wasn't me......

it would have, Enforcer, if I wouldn't have to go for dinner, time to get out of the house for the first time since I got back,
LIFE needs to be get back to normal, or we all go nuts.
Serge

You are a good person and a good friend.
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If I was a good friend, would I mention that some of my friends owe my other friends $80k and have no desire paying it????
Serge

Serge,

I agree. We wouldn't.

My question if whether we should. My whole life I have thought not. Now I question that position.
Colin "Ask Colin"! Live Tonight! 8pm ET!

You know what would be the one of the most intruiging debates of all time on the boards??

Serge vs. Colin about whether or not Serge is a good person who does good things or a bad person who occasionally does good things...

TheEnforcer Isn't it about time you started Making Bank?

You are a good person and a good friend.
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Bullshit!

If I was a good person, would I say
that I know of somebody we all know who owes webmaster $45,000?
Serge

As far as religion, it seems to me to have done much more harm than good.

However, to outlaw it would force it to be practiced in private and lead to more harm than good.

Colin "Ask Colin" what's wrong with religion! Live Tonight! 8pm ET!

Would we have been willing to protect the rights of Kuwaiti citizens if there was not a vested oil interest?
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No, we wouldn't.
And I'll tell you more,
if Clinton decided to do what Bush is doing now after they blew the Embassies in Africa-
American People wouldn't go along.

It took the crime of the Sept 11 th magnitude to get us involved.
Serge

Serge,

Have it your way. I defend my position. You are a good person and a good friend.

Colin "Ask Colin" why Serge and Joe are good friends - ask for details! Live Tonight! 8pm ET!

Post # 20061, MikeAI, you read my mind.....
Serge We pay $250 per member from Antarctica!!!!!!

Mike .. I agree with you whole-heartedly. The US has been fortunate enough to be in the right place geographically in the world. The US has been run economically and politically in such a way as to arm itself to the limit.

The purpose of those arms is to protect the citizens, even it means interfering in other people's business.

For the first time in my life, however, I do find myself caring about the human rights of people living in other countries. Would we have been willing to protect the rights of Kuwaiti citizens if there was not a vested oil interest? I am beginning to believe that the world should.
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You have done more for me that I have for you.
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I'll publish the whole list
;-))))
Serge We pay $250 per member from Antarctica!!!!!!

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I cannot understand how anyone could ever have bad things to say about such good people.
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Colin,
neither JoeE, nor me are GOOD PEOPLE.

We are just BAD PEOPLE who sometimes do GOOD DEEDS.

I'm glad that "Ask Colin" asks Serge sometimes
and Serge still can answer...sometimes
;-)))
Serge We pay $250 per member from Antarctica!!!!!!

Anthony's girlfriend's usually wear a bag.

;)))
Nickatilynx
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;-)))
Serge We pay $250 per memberfrom Antarctica!!!!!!

Serge,

Everytime I have been ready to do business with you in some way, I have been warned that you are a dangerous partner, that you stab people in the back.

I have been doing business with you for 5 years. You have never stabbed me in the back. You have done more for me that I have for you.

When I first started in this business, back in '96, you gave me free hosting. To this day, you have never asked me for anything in return.

I do not understand that. As a matter of fact, everyone that I have ever heard bad things about, I am indebted to. You and JoeE, specifically. I cannot understand how anyone could ever have bad things to say about such good people.

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Colin as we both know, more people have been killed in the name of religion then anything else.

I have no problem with religion, no matter how kookie it is. But when people use religion to control others, and then to artbitratily kill people is unacceptable.

Of course as a US Citizen, while it bothers me - I do not think it is cause enough for us to intervene. However if the country or people is somehow important to US interests, then we have should do what we need to.

Lets face it, if there was no oil in the middle east do you think anyone would care what they did to one another? Afganistan - the Taliban have been abusing people for years - did we care? NOPE. We may say something, but never acted on it. Only now that the US interest have been brought in do we act. That is how foreign policy works.

It is up for the people of Afganistan to stand up and throw off their shackels of orpession and lead themselves to where they want to go. I could care less if they all murder each other by the busshel inside their country. The minutes they harm one hair on a US Citizen, or put at risk any US Interest - then I care... and the taliban are about to find out that lesson....

Mike AI It wasn't me......

I wouldn't give you the wind from ass
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only because you know I'd ignite it!
;-)))
Serge We pay $216 per memeber........................................................who stays a memebr 12 months ;-)))

""If one heard that Muslim females had to wear a veil""

Veils?Anthony's girlfriend's usually wear a bag.

;)))
Nickatilynx

Sykk and Steve's points have been registered.

Mike AI It wasn't me......

Mike,

That's an interesting position. When I was growing up I was taught, as I'm sure were most of you, that every religion must be respected. Along with that, we were supposed to respect various interpretations of different religions.

This was meant, I suppose, to protect various interpretations of Christianity.

If one heard that Muslim females had to wear a veil, for example, we were supposed to respect that as being part of Islam. Not to be questioned.
And if the New Testament says that women must wear a hat in Church, well then, if a various Christian sect has that rule, we should be accepting of that also.

In general, that rule was supposed to be followed when it was applied to one of the world's major religions. If a small sect like the Branch Davidians has a particular rule, well then, if it isn't too far away from mainstream Christianity as it is practiced in America, then it is ok. The key phrase being "if it isn't too far away from mainstream Christianity"

Recent events have caused me to reconsider this position. The feeling and exercise of freedom is central to the concept of humanity.

Wearing a veil might be acceptable when someone chooses that religion. It is not acceptable when it is enforced by law. This is where I am now.

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OK, my guess for tonights points is 39
SykkBoy

300,000?? HHAHAHA HOHOHOHO HEEHEEEHEEE....

TheEnforcer Isn't it about time you started Making Bank?

How Dean does it?
hmm,well its a PLC,therefore garnering market share and increasing turnover would be tantamount,plus profits through processing etc,etc.But what do I know? ;)

Kimmykim,"gatekeeper at devil.com",cool,you will be hearing from me or one of my minions.Probably,several times a day ;))

Serge - ""One of the reasons folks forgive me easily, despite me being a bona fide asshole at will-
I PAID MY DUES IN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS...money talk"

true,I wouldn't give you the wind from ass,if it wasn't for the fact that you gave me a couple of million dollars,have the potential to do it again,give good advice,and have always been a good friend ;))

Nickatilynx

Well, I guess I'll take 43 total points tonight.
Steve

DJ, for "marketting effect"
you gotta use this:

Serge We pay $216 per memeber........................................................who stays a memebr 12 months ;-)))

agreed sergey...
and where the hell they get 300000 rifles?

OldFold Auction

Serge that CNN special was pretty powerful. I am not one who thinks we should be telling other countries how to live - I am only interested in US issues. But the taliban are evil, and ignorant.

The taliban have 13 miliatry aircraft. In a few weeks they will have none.

Mike AI Brad - we know it was you!

I would like personally to thank
ALL Oprano sponsors who found time
to pay their bills on time despite the horror events of last weeks.

I am IMPRESSED.

DJ, our posts crossed, interesting how Iraq came to our minds after reading about 300k number....
;-))
Serge

Are there 300k men left in all of Afghanistan that are fighting age?
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After seeing "Live benith the veil" on CNN yesterday, 280k will be happy to surrender as soon as they see US soldiers, like their Iraqi "brothers" did.
Serge

Sounds like the Taliban has the same speech writers Saddam did before the Gulf War.... :P~

Diamond Jim 120% recurring..... (divided by 2....creative marketing in effect)

That photo must be a fake.
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oh sure!

"C & D will set your free"

(---Evan)
;-))
Serge

HAHAHA Mutt, Reddd ( oops I mean RRRed) is going to make sure you rememeber her name!!
Mike AI Brad - we know it was you!

Are there 300k men left in all of Afghanistan that are fighting age? That is the first question I have, before we sort out their allegiances.
KK

oh shit......as i was typing it i was debating myself if it was the three R's or three D's

Redd Fox had two d's ........not that that has anything to do with price of tea in China but......
mutt

Hey Mutt -

It is RRRed not Reddd....shhhh no one will ever know:)

Happy BDAY honey!
Tonda SSSSHhhh...No one will ever know.

I gues sit is official

Dirt is no longer the oldest thing in the world:)

now instead you can say... Im older than RRRED;)

just kidding:) happy birthday RRRED
grimm Xingster

Taliban "has 300,000 Holy War fighters"

Afghanistan's hardline Taliban government says it has deployed 300,000 battle-hardened troops to key areas in preparation for a "holy war". It warned Americans they were "igniting a fire that will burn them."In signs of an intensifying showdown over Afghanistan's refusal to surrender Osama bin Laden, the prime suspect in devastating terror assaults on the US 13 days ago, the Taliban has drastically curtailed activities of the remaining United Nations relief workers inside Afghanistan.

hmmm
grimm Xingster

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mutt

Damn Mike.. that's rather scary... guess it can pay to drink!! :>))

TheEnforcer Isn't it about time you started Making Bank?

yeah Meni u have to post a total too. Closest to the total final score without going over wins in case of a tie.

mutt

A friend sent me this in e-mail, in regard to the stock market:

If you bought $1000 worth of Nortel stock one year

ago, it would now be worth $49. If you bought $1000

worth of Budweiser (the beer, not the stock) one year

ago, drank all the beer, and traded in the cans for

the nickel deposit (there are variations depending on

the state of residence), you would have $79.

Drink and recycle.
Mike AI Brad - we know it was you!

That photo must be a fake. You guys get MikeW to help you out with this one?

Brad Shaw Deep Oral Girls

accumulating TOO MUCH! ;-)))

bpj
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buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, wrong answer, ask Bill Gates!
;-)))
Serge

sure, IF that the case-
Dean will get fucked.

IS IT?
Serge

what exactly is IMPOSSIBLE when it comes to .... accumulation of wealth?
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accumulating TOO MUCH! ;-)))

bpj

The last one was kind of contraversial
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I bet you fucker get C & D
I FedEXed you on Saturday!
;-)))
Serge making impossible possible

$50 a month, no disclosure and cross-selling is how Dean appears to be able to pay out $70 a signup.

This is not moving forward in the indsutry, this is going backwards. I wonder how long he will be able to keep his merchant account?

I know some people do not care what happens when surfers are misled, and people keep getting billed forever - as long as they get their $$ in their pockets.

I have always been one who is against this type of thinking.

Mike AI Brad - who are your friends?

MikeAI,
I realise it too that value of traffic has changed.

I look at everything this way:

1) either he found the ways to strech the surfer more and and live of smaller profit margins
(hey, Dean, can you live of a lousy mil a year in addition to your pre-retirement nest egg?)

2) he is fucking everybody up the ass and we'll talk of nothing else but what a fucker General really is....

my KISS formula tells me
if I can live off Oprano peanuts, so can General after paying $70 per sign up.
Serge making impossible possible

http://www.oprano.com/caption.html

Shok I think you need to check out what I wrote. I believe Brad's been cheatin on you:)
Tonda Free Feeds for a Week!

Serge I understand all areas of sales, including exit traffic. However $70 is still a lot. The exit traffic value is not what is used to be when you were buying it.

Now one thing I was thinking is that Dean has come upon some good non-adult project and is sending himself the exit traffic, and has figured a way to make good mint on it.

So he can pay yout $70 to get webmaasters to join, so many would not normally try non-adult heavily with their traffic ( webmasters understand adult) and he makes his money with exit traffic.

But I would have to go through his sites and see - and really I do not have enough time in the day to make sure my sites are running well as it is.

Mike AI Oh my goodness, what is Brad doing now?

Thanks, BPJ,
quick question for you:

what exactly is IMPOSSIBLE when it comes to .... accumulation of wealth?

Serge making impossible possible

Serge the 100% program idea was solid, infact http://club100 is still rocking for some of us.
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oh sure, some of you who can click on it and get somewhere, most of us CAN NOT!!!!
;-)))))
Serge

No, I mean, say I pick 50, the next guy picks 49, etc.

SykkBoy

MikeAI - my number for tonight's game is 34 !
Serge - glad to see you back safely... ;-)

bpj

yes infact last week we had someone pick 2... of course she did not win, so not always the best strategy.

As Adam Sandler would say, the price is wrong, bitch!
Mike AI Oh my goodness, what is Brad doing now?

I do not conisder myself a master of numbers, but Dean's program seems fiscally irresponsible - infact it seems IMPOSSIBLE.
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you just don't want me relax and force me putting my thinking cap on, don't ya???

OK, I'll throw you few pieces of the puzzle.....
(my gueeses only, nobody shared anything with me)

I was paing Dean $100,000 a month for his exit traffic from #3 banner spot....

IMpossible my ass,
everything is possible

Serge

Uh oh Mike, that could lead to the "Price Is Right" strategy...
I gie my number and someone takes 1 number less and/or vice versa...heheheheh
SykkBoy

Post your total points here Sykk - remember don't go over.

Mike AI Oh my goodness, what is Brad doing now?

Also not sure how much traffic equates it but in SexHit and Intergal terms they specifically state they dont take traffic from certain countries. So if any of your surfers happen to be from one of them they redirect to a dialer I am assuming or just keep the signup if he signs up, which helps their bottom line...
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Yeah Bosshoawg Igallery and other do this anyway, and most do not pay out $70 a signup.

My question is are the nailing the surfer who joins ( which it seems like they are playing sneaky games like CE did back in the day) or are the shaving webmasters?

I could be wrong, but unless Dean has a money printing machine - the cash has to come from somewhere.

Mike AI Oh my goodness, what is Brad doing now?

Serge the 100% program idea was solid, infact http://club100 is still rocking for some of us. ( I send a ton of my traffic there)

However it is not a gimmick, one sees where the money is coming from.

I do not conisder myself a master of numbers, but Dean's program seems fiscally irresponsible - infact it seems IMPOSSIBLE.

What is Dean chargin a month for his sites?? $250 a month?
Mike AI Oh my goodness, what is Brad doing now?

Hmm, I can't seem to find it

Where do I submit my numbers for th tiebreaker?
SykkBoy

MikeAi....good question..I looked into the payouts and how they possibly could do it and in reality it is NOT a completely FREE trial. Sure they get 3 day free trial to the paysite they join BUT in the Membership Type it states:

"FREE 3 day trial with live-unlimited.com"

On #2 in there terms of condition I see liveiunlimited.com listed as:
The current standard billing terms for Live Unlimited are $USD9.95 for 30 days, renewing at the end of each period.

So they tack on the $9.95 it APPEARS on the join. So if a member forgets to cancel this one after 30 days he/she is rebilled $9.95 the next month and if they forget the other one they are rebilled after 3 days at $49.95...So potentially if a member did not cancel after the firs month from either service they are billed close to $60...

So still taking $9.95 profit off the top, still puts them at paying $60 or so per free signup which is SUPER HIGH as well...Hmmm...

Also not sure how much traffic equates it but in SexHit and Intergal terms they specifically state they dont take traffic from certain countries. So if any of your surfers happen to be from one of them they redirect to a dialer I am assuming or just keep the signup if he signs up, which helps their bottom line...

Just my 2 cents as I have no problems with SexHit and think the concept is a good one...Should do well and I will also test it out and let you know how it goes :))

BossHawg PornResource - Resource Stylin!

I try to deal with ideas and concepts,
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MikeAI,
I was making much more money with SergesCash before I shared ideas and concepts with Push
;-))))

....and so did Spanker
;-)))

there are few good ideas better kept for oneself, don't you think?
Serge

Well we are back this week with a new caption contenst. The last one was kind of contraversial - so we set it aside without voting for the top captions.

This week we have something fresh, something that everyone should enjoy.

http://www.oprano.com/caption.html

Please submit your captions early - this one should be good!

Mike AI Oh my goodness, what is Brad doing now?

Greetings from the Pit, Opranites! I've got some good news and some bad news for all of you...

First the good news - In an unprecidented move, the judges of the Caption Contest here at Oprano have declared EVERYONE a winner! That's right - it was a 68-way tie for first place! They liked everyone's captions so much that the refused to pick one and so you ALL WIN! Hooray!!

Which brings me to the bad news... We don't have enough prizes for all 68 of you... so you'll have to make due with a round of applause from all of us here at Oprano!

But don't worry - there's MORE good news! What's that you say? Can it be true, Edd? Yes - MORE good news! The NEXT caption contest has started! This one is guaranteed to be a bucket o'fun! And it WILL have a winner.... promise! So head over to http://www.oprano.com/caption.html and show some pith!

Knee deep in hoopla,
Edd (Sneaky Ninja Webmaster)

Monk, I was thinking the same thing - that $70 - $100 is IMPOSSIBLE to pay unless there were some tricks being played.
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oh really?????????

and how much SweetT pays (paid in hay days) to his 100% proggy affiliates?????

I bet Dean discivered angle and if I was him,
I wouldn't share what he sees and how,
Spanker did it and we know what happened to Spanker
;-)))
Serge

Enforcer I think you are correct, this should be a blow out for the Pack!

Mike AI Can you see what I see??

I think the spread is 9.5 IF I remember correctly.... so essentially Pack by 10..... Ahman Green will have 150+ yards on the ground tonight and Favre will throw for 250+ through the air... :>))

TheEnforcer Isn't it about time you started Making Bank?

Serge,

I try to deal with ideas and concepts, not the people behind them. Blindly trusting people isn't one of my fortes.

Monk

Monk, I was thinking the same thing - that $70 - $100 is IMPOSSIBLE to pay unless there were some tricks being played.

OF course Dean has a great reuptation, and has been an innovator before. Maybe he has found some new angles.

Maybe he just likes to give him money away....

Time will tell. We signed up for his program, and will be testing it out - and see how the numbers do.

Mike AI New things everyday!!! A whole new look coming too!

Serge, hopefully as I get older I can rely on someone else to not only burn that fuel
but to also 'obtain' that fuel :)))

Dean - great looking proggy... expect nothing but excellence for you! :))

Marc De ARS not AVS

Lee we have to be related.... I went fishing Friday. Caught 4 Redfish all about 17-19 inches - good eating. My GF caught a bigger one about 25 inches.

In La. Redfish have to be minimum 16 inches, and can only keep one over 32 inches.

They put up a fight don't they?
Mike AI New things everyday!!! A whole new look coming too!

Old "burner" Fold,
beats me how you managed making 20,000th post making 34 posts in 2 months
;-))))

One day I'll learn your secret!
;-))))
Serge

I'm not
in much need of that fuel at the moment but all it will do is make my fire burn hotter :)))
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Marc, when I was your age, I didn't need "that fuel" either
;-)))
When you get to my age,
you'll find that taking care of the "burner" is much more fun than thinking of "fuel"
;-)))
Serge (Free hosting, anyone?)

Dean posts it and everybody applauds.

Monk
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Monk, when YOU pay 1/1000 amount
what General paid to others,
I'm sure you'd get some applauds too.

One of the reasons folks forgive me easily, despite me being a bona fide asshole at will-
I PAID MY DUES IN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS....
money talk, Monk
Serge

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