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BTW - Hope you had a full tank of gas this morning. Was out a little bit ago and passed several gas stations with looong lines. The gas station employees were raising the prices as I drove by. Filled up not long after it all started and it was $1.40 a gallon, drove by later and it was $1.99. Heard gas was up to $5 a gallon in Tulsa. Wal-mart was packed too..
Listening on the scanner and they are "appropriating" any empty vehicle they find to transport cops and rescure personnel. They just ordered 5 Coca-cola trucks to a relief area. They are sending out search parties to try to find medical personnel that are trying to get into the city. Sounds like things are pretty crazy there. Our bombing here in OKC was bad and relief efforts went on for over 48 hours. Can hardly imagine how long they will go on in NYC.

Wow.. they just reported seeing some "middle-eastern" people jump out of a van in the middle of the street..the cops aren't going near the van. Amazing to listen to..

Zebra
Tue, 11 Sep - 15:57:40 64.232.174.41 Post #: 17900


Hooper -- not 5, only 4.

American into the WTC, United into the WTC
American into the Pentagon

United down(ed?) in Pennsylvania
KK
Tue, 11 Sep - 15:55:14 64.38.194.18 Post #: 17899


What a day for America and at the time we have a Joke In the White House
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Stunt...let's be thankful at least theres a REPUBLICAN in office......
I am sure there will be more SWIFT military action..than SOME of the previous leaders would have provided!
MrCash
Tue, 11 Sep - 15:52:39 65.35.95.62 Post #: 17898


"Does anyone else have a problem with the news constantly updating the President's position"

Tools -

For all we know he's not really at those places... Disinformation is valuable as well...

Also, with him constantly on the move it may remove the threat to any one place.

KC
Tue, 11 Sep - 15:49:28 67.166.52.163 Post #: 17897


Have been listening to the police scanner at http://www.nj.com/policescanner
Some pretty interesting stuff. One cop was telling some other cops to visit all area supermarkets and take whatever first aid supplies and food could be found to give to the injured.
They were just now trying to get to a white van that was floating and on fire near some docks. They were kind of worried..some were saying it was very suspicious. News reports are saying it is calm and orderly there but the cops on the scanner were calling their station saying that whole blocks were in panic.


Zebra
Tue, 11 Sep - 15:46:35 64.232.174.41 Post #: 17896


Mike I don't think that is a complete list... notice it didn't even include the pentagon crash plane.

So we know that at least 5.

My big question is how and why did the other two planes crash? Did the pilots find out what was going to happen and purposely crash the plane or does the us govt have the ability to "remote control" commercial jets & crash them if necessary?

How did those other 2 jets crash?
Hooper
Tue, 11 Sep - 15:45:17 66.68.122.196 Post #: 17895


Mike...

those are the planes that crashed..
are they sure only 4 were hyjacked

i have heard as many as 8???
Forest
Tue, 11 Sep - 15:38:28 209.143.51.21 Post #: 17894


Does anyone else have a problem with the news constantly updating the President's position?

Apparently we have no secrets anymore.

Toolz
Tue, 11 Sep - 15:35:51 24.247.121.254 Post #: 17893




Stuntal this is not the time for attacking our leaders. I am sure in time Bush will order a response.
Mike AI
Tue, 11 Sep - 15:34:15 66.21.168.144 Post #: 17892




Only 4 Forest

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20010911/aponline132046_000.htm
Mike AI
Tue, 11 Sep - 15:32:58 66.21.168.144 Post #: 17891


What a day for America and at the time we have a Joke In the White House. Does Bush have the guts to move on this swiftly. If he doesn't than who knows what these bastards will do next.Maybe we should go after the countries that harbor these groups and teach them a lesson that they need to learn and also set an example for other countries that allow these sick bastards to stay in their country. Bush get off your ass and do something. You already now where these people ARE
stuntal
Tue, 11 Sep - 15:29:47 172.173.152.112 Post #: 17890


does anyone have a REAL number of how many planes were hyjacked today?

4
5
8
???

Forest
Tue, 11 Sep - 15:29:04 209.143.51.21 Post #: 17889


I'm wondering...with the "super security" in America's airports..how did all these planes get hijacked??

We may never know what these fanatics did to take over the planes, but what did they use to do it? Ceramic knives?

Voo, Forest, Melody, Ludedude and all the rest that are missing loved ones right now, truly, sincerely, my heart is breaking for all of you.
heather
Tue, 11 Sep - 15:15:07 209.177.150.109 Post #: 17888


Yeah right... & I figure that most of my rebills come from people who made a decision to let me charge them again.
Hooper You WILL get your money.
Tue, 11 Sep - 15:01:06 66.68.122.196 Post #: 17887



It gets more surreal as time goes by. That is the Big Apple, Gotham City, that skyline is the most famous skyline the world and it will never be the same.
I am starting to hear the criticisms now from experts in the field of security. This just shouldn't have happened. The scope of this attack, the success of this attack, is just tragic how it could have happened.

The #@$*!! Pentagon was bombed! Hitler and the Japanese never came close to doing what these freaks did today to America.

What if as New York and the country try to recover and bury the dead and grieve these fuckers come back for more? They are like a shark who has tasted blood, watching the most affluent powerful country suffer, bringing it to its knees, has got to be some kind of narcotic to these bastards.

I need sleep, wish this had been a nightmare. At one point this morning when it looked like it just wasn't going to stop I actually started believing I was dreaming.
mutt
Tue, 11 Sep - 15:01:01 24.112.37.86 Post #: 17886


Just heard on CNBC that Dan Lewen (sp?) was the Akamai founder that dies in one of the planes.

Monk
Tue, 11 Sep - 15:00:57 156.34.180.79 Post #: 17885


Sheikh Yassin, leader of the Islamic militant group Hamas, said "no doubt this is a result of injustice the U.S practices against the weak in the world."

From Gaza, Islamic Jihad official Nafez Azzam said "what happened in the United States today is a consequence of American policies in this region."

Both Yassin and Azzam said they were against the killing of innocent people.

In the West Bank, Qais abu Leila, leader of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, denied any connection to the incident and said it has always opposed "terror attacks on civilian targets, especially outside the occupied territories."

He added: "We call on the U.S. administration to review their attitudes and policies towards the Palestinian question because this policy arouses the hatred and anger of Arab and Islamic peoples and urges them to harm U.S. interests in our region."

=================================

It is time to start programming some flight path's and it is time to start writing some names on some missles.

Sickening.


JMM
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:54:26 4.34.164.23 Post #: 17884



This morning, I went to sleep at 8am EST and woke up at 10am, turned on my TV wall and thought I was still dreaming.

I have friends & partners living and working in Manhattan and have not been able to reach them.

I wish I was still dreaming.

What is truly disturbing is the flights that were chosen, all bound for California, were FULLY-fueled... very organized, precise and certainly not over yet.

AllFirst Bank had already closed all branches before noon today and may be closed tomorrow. Bank of America is not allowing more than $500 withdrawals at certain locations.

Still amazed that Osama Bin-Laden's people have denied responsibility. They are always willing to take responsibility without fear of repercussion.

Also, very interesting is Magick's post:

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I certainly hope this guy isn't looking for a profit here...

http://www.worldtradecenter.com

Magick
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What is weird is that the domain record was last modified yesterday:

http://www.networksolutions.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois?worldtradecenter.com

Record last updated on 10-Sep-2001


Perhaps the owner can see the future...


Now I hear that Bush may end up at NORAD... or come back to DC (?)


(FBI news conference at 3:15pm)

This certainly puts life into perspective... need to re-prioritize my agenda.

I wish I was still dreaming.





SunTzu
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:53:16 168.143.112.8 Post #: 17883


"not cclaiming responsibility would defeat the purpose of their actions "
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very true grimm --
KK
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:47:09 64.38.194.18 Post #: 17882


Bush said...
"to hunt down and find..."

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It is time for the U.S. to make these countries make a decision...
If they aid and hode these terrorists...then tey are against the U.S.

It is time we forced them to make a choice.
MrCash
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:45:50 65.35.95.62 Post #: 17881


http://www.barca.fsnet.co.uk/carthage-destruction.htm

A roadmap for oure response to those who harbor terrorsits ?
Mike AI
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:38:55 66.21.168.144 Post #: 17880


My new Wallpaper...

http://www.allforkids.org/neverforget.jpg
JohnIP
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:37:53 199.44.53.3 Post #: 17879


Call me whatever you want but I say we remove the bad seed and just take out the whole damn middle east. It will benifit the entire world
LAMike Silver Cash
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:35:01 64.170.38.210 Post #: 17878


from what I have heard the fourth one was shot down in PA and a fifth one has "disappeared". No word on the other three. Just heard Greyhound is also shutting down its services for everything east of the line from Cleveland to Atlanta and some states to the west also. A plane with a bomb was found in Colorado. And someone was apprehended in Seattle with explosives. The Hoover Dam has been blocked off. In this neck of the woods banks and government offices are closing early. This is some scary shit.
__________________________

from another board...

Rumors are running rampant....]




Forest
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:29:23 209.143.51.21 Post #: 17877




Thanks for the info - bascily that is what I understood about the Pen. flight. I will keep my eyes and ears open.


Mike AI
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:27:15 66.21.160.220 Post #: 17876


mike

i heard its landding gear went down, then back up again, and it crashed

bad pilot, or maybe a pilot taking one for the team, knowing his intended target, tried to land the plane in a feild and avoid further damage
grimm
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:25:30 65.27.227.72 Post #: 17875


I hope America rallys together and overcomes this tragedy.

_______________________________

KC
they already are...Bloodbanks are Overflowing with people...Donations are pouring in to aid groups...People around the country standing together....we should organize a candle light ceramony
"candles across america" for the victims and the HEALING of our country
Forest
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:24:51 209.143.51.21 Post #: 17874


Mike...

There is a report that a cell phone call was made to a 911 dispatcher from one of the passengers saying that the plane was hijacked. Rumour has it that it was heading for Camp David, but there was a struggle in the cockpit. Looks like the pilot might be a hero.


JMM
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:24:13 4.34.164.23 Post #: 17873


Mike

News story on the PA Plane Crash

http://www.canada.com/national/features/wtc/story.html?id={839ED3F1-0C6C-4A83-85C0-C86B83C03BE4}

SusieS
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:24:12 64.230.134.21 Post #: 17872


billy

fear is never a concern with these people, especially of retaliation


they do it for religion, declare jihad on their enemies.

not cclaiming responsibility would defeat the purpose of their actions


grimm
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:24:10 65.27.227.72 Post #: 17871


No way, SusieS...this type of attack took months, if not years, of planning.


Magick
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:23:21 24.116.98.165 Post #: 17870




Has anyone seen anything about the airplane that crashed in Penn?? Everyone is focusing on NY and DC, I am curious as to what happened on that flight...

IF it was hijacked, it appears the mission was not comleted. Did one of our fighters shoot it down? Did the pilot ditch it?

I am curious about this part.

Also it appears the Pentagon is going to be ok - maybe no deaths there.

NY is another story all together...


Mike AI
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:22:04 66.21.160.220 Post #: 17869


There was an amazing picture during the broadcasting this morning...

The scene was the barely visable New York skyline, smokey as all hell... With the Statue of Liberty standing proudly in front of it.

It was an unbelievable picture...

My thoughts are with those that have family or friends directly involved with this tragedy and also with all Americans who are ALL effected by this.

A very sad day. I hope America rallys together and overcomes this tragedy.

KC
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:21:21 67.166.52.163 Post #: 17868


You know several have posed that this could be a retalliation of the columbians for last weeks actions

Thoughts????
SusieS
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:18:39 64.230.134.21 Post #: 17867


60 minjutes had an interview with a guy who recruited the suicide bomber for the attck on the jerusalem market....

Hey persuaded the kid to do it by telling him that religious heros like himself receive rewards in heaven such as 100 wives and 100 virgins....ect ect

These people have NOTHING and some fanatic tells an 18 year old boy those fairtales and he bites....His family are fundimenatlist so they support his efforts......

How do we fight THAT???
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does)
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:18:27 209.143.51.21 Post #: 17866


Grimm

I was just having this same conversation with my wife.
What if they they were US citizens?
Conspiracy Theory!!!
The use of terror to accomplish or establish control has been successful in the past.
The NAZIs for instance, the Rheichstag building in 1937 ? for instance.
Possible, Unlikely, Impossible???
Never know!!!

DAMNMAN ZMASTER
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:18:10 64.135.69.171 Post #: 17865


"why is noone claiming responsibility, they always do, en mass?"

Maybe because they fear the only outcome ?



Billy (Oprano Sergeant at Arms)
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:15:53 216.77.234.57 Post #: 17864


JMM, I hope you're right. I've always felt that having religious fanatics in political power is a BAD idea... and it's not a matter of "My god's better than your god," cuz we (US) could give two shits about how other countries worship. Killing in the name of god was wrong during the Crusades, and it's wrong for these fucking whackos too.
Rox
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:14:15 64.167.216.26 Post #: 17863


Man... I'm sick to my stomach over this.

Going to take the day & go to temple.

Be back tomorrow & payments WILL go out via US Postalmail as they have every week since day one.
Hooper You WILL get your money.
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:12:29 66.68.122.196 Post #: 17862


taleban has denied involvement.

denied bin laden;s involvement too..

why is noone claiming responsibility, they always do, en mass?
grimm
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:11:46 65.27.227.72 Post #: 17861


heres an intersting idea..what if it wasnt bin laden.

what if it was a domestic act of terrorism, like oklahomoa city?

I thihnk it was a foreign terrorist, but usually they all claim responsibility... without taking claim for something, what was proven?

You dont think it could have been americans who did this? I dont think so, but who knows.

grimm
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:09:53 65.27.227.72 Post #: 17860


Rox...

We drove IRAQ out of KUWAIT and devastated their country. The Iraqi military was hiding. Soldiers reported that at the first sight of U.S. military the Iraqi's threw down their weapons and surrendered without a single shot being fired. They were all too willing to surrender and remain breathing. The problem was, we didn't finish the job.

I think we can defeat islamic nations, we almost did once.


JMM
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:08:34 4.34.164.23 Post #: 17859


All processing and settlements continue normally-Epoch
________________________________

Now there is an OXI-MORONIC statement
Forest
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:06:35 209.143.51.21 Post #: 17858


---
or via electronic transfer
---

Now that is fucking pathetic.
I won't use any programs that use Epoch for that very reason.
Hooper
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:05:38 66.68.122.196 Post #: 17857


our local bloodbanks have actually asked that we NOT DONATE.

__________________________

I got the same thing here Hoop...

Thank God for American Spirit!!!!

I am giving my girls all the time they need to go donate
Forest
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:05:11 209.143.51.21 Post #: 17856


speakking of cokccroaches, nothing lilke epoch to take advantage of the situation
grimm
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:04:11 65.27.227.72 Post #: 17855


I agree, Peaches. Anyone who's surprised that something like this has happened is just fooling themselves. It was only a matter of time. I'm shocked at the magnitude and organization of it, but not terribly shocked that it happened. It was only a matter of what where & when. My condolences and thoughts go out to the thousands of families that will be hurt by what's happened today.

That said, I'm seriously hoping that we won't see a reduction in our freedoms here. Terrorism isn't about dead bodies, it's about instilling fear. If we see any reduction in our freedom, then they've won. Of course, there are things we could handle more intelligently, such as airport security, but you'll never have perfect security unless you're totally locked down. With freedom comes risk, and I'm willing to take that risk to have the freedom I've always had. I'll have no qualms about stepping onto an airplane whenever I want, or going into tall office buildings, etc. Fuck 'em, they aren't going to intimidate me.

And as for the people responsible, well, I know it's not realistic, just a gut reaction, but I could see making a list of every terrorist organization or individual that's threatened the US in any way in the past, and just start working our way down the list with "the big eraser." Then see how many times something like this happens in the future. But I know that's not going to happen, and may not be the most sensible solution to this problem.

I'm done on the subject, I have work to attend to.

ThrobX
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:04:11 63.52.219.35 Post #: 17854


what exactly happened at camp david
grimm
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 01:56:06 - IP: 65.27.227.72 - Post # 17844
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Yea grimm they think it was on its way to Camp David
Forest
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:03:35 209.143.51.21 Post #: 17853


In the face of these astronomical and unfathomable terrorists attacks, we hope that you and your loved ones are safe and okay!

Amber Flynt Digital
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:03:15 207.14.239.197 Post #: 17852


they are like cockroaches, gotta keep spraying and squashing, spraying and squashing...


they will never be alll gone, and they operate in separate cells independant off each other. the way to fight them is to attack the governments of the countries that house them

with no homes, they are less effective
grimm
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:01:37 65.27.227.72 Post #: 17851


our local bloodbanks have actually asked that we NOT DONATE.

Not sure if that's b/c they don't want anymore evil pornographer blood (j/k)...seriously though... they told me there is a line around the block of people waiting to donate.

So CALL before ya go ;-))
Hooper
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:01:31 66.68.122.196 Post #: 17850


it is sooo scarry to see the pics and the 2 HUGE buildings that have been there all my life are GONE!

I played by those buildings as a kid....we used to spit off the top and laugh....

Now they are Gone......

I am haveing a verry hard time with this....soo many innocents died today...

This is Wrong
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does)
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:01:17 209.143.51.21 Post #: 17849


I certainly hope this guy isn't looking for a profit here...

http://www.worldtradecenter.com


Magick
Tue, 11 Sep - 14:00:08 24.116.98.165 Post #: 17848


grimm

that plane that went down in PA, is thought ot have been on its way to camp david
SusieS
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:59:12 64.230.134.21 Post #: 17847


OK, now this is FUCKING PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!

Email went out from Epoch this morning:

=================================

Tuesday September 11, 2001

As you must already know, there has been a horrific terrorist attack in the United
States. Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and families of those affected
by this incident and with those who are working to provide assistance to the injured.

All flights in the U.S. are currently grounded and as a precaution no payments will be
released today into the U.S. Mail, UPS, or via electronic transfer. Additional news
regarding all disbursements will be addressed tomorrow.

All processing and settlements continue normally. Our technical support department
and billing support center continue to be available for 24 hour service.

More news tomorrow.


---Rand at EPOCH
Director of Corporate Communications
rand@epochsystems.com

===================================

Epoch:

The postal service is functioining.
UPS is open and in business.
The banks are open.

PAY THE WEBMASTERS THE MONEY THEY HAVE EARNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

unFUCKINGbelievable.

The ultimate in pathetic opportunism in my opinion.

CCBILL and IBILL are making payments AS SCHEDULED.




JMM
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:58:38 4.34.164.23 Post #: 17846


From a friend on ICQ:

"I remember a long time ago when I was in high school that a teacher of mine said we will NEVER win a war against an Islamic nation or force. They are far too eager to die to get their point across and far to fanatical in their hatred of others to listen to reason or try to negotiate. If this is the way they "negotiatie" then I think we need to wake up and take a look at how we respond."

I couldn't agree more...
Rox
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:56:55 64.167.216.26 Post #: 17845


what exactly happened at camp david
grimm
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:56:06 65.27.227.72 Post #: 17844


This is ALL surreal. I didn't even know anything until my son called me. I was just blissfully going about my day eating breakfast and reading a magazine.

The US has been extremely slack for years. Jim's example of the airport is repeated 100's, maybe even 1000's of times day. When I worked at the Atlanta Airport I had access to everything - the tarmac, the planes, the international terminal, etc. and there were NEVER any checks run on me. I was a subcontractor for a company that didn't even know my home address or phone number, let alone any way to investigate me.

We allow anyone and everyone access to our country. I find it ironic that they're "Closing the Mexican/US border" ??!! Uh, WHAT border? All of a sudden we're going to stop people from coming into the country? I'll take $1 for every Mexican that gets through "the border" today and then I'll retire..... There are MANY known terrorist members that are living in the US LEGALLY. Our "It can't happen here" mentality has to stop. How many times have there been "crackdowns" at the airports, merely to be quietly lifted in a few weeks or months? Security is a hassle - it takes longer to get into Government buildings and to travel. HOPEFULLY we realize that we have to be aware that there are countries that want us zapped off the map.

My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone that has friends and family affected by this tragedy. A friend has a son that works in the WTC that she hasn't heard from.

Finding WHO to obliterate will the hard part, but let's pray the US does it before we get hit again :(


Peaches
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:53:44 63.147.224.5 Post #: 17843


NBC showing people walking across the bridge getting out of newyork
SusieS
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:51:11 64.230.134.21 Post #: 17842


I am going to make one more post here and go eat lunch.
I hope this post is useful to get some peoples minds right.
I heard it said that martial law may be implemented later today, this by some one in the know!!!
They are talking about it seriously anyway.

When martial law is declared the constitution of the United States is suspended!!!!!!
Suspended for how long???
Until they say it's not suspended anymore!!!
Who are they? ...... You get the idea!!!

DAMNMAN ZMASTER
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:49:41 64.135.69.171 Post #: 17841


Very very sad indeed,

On one of the news stations they were talking about all the symbolism that is beinging to come out of this,
The Date, the targets (WTC and Pentagon) CampDavid though it was missed, the airlines used, (American and United)


SusieS
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:49:33 64.230.134.21 Post #: 17840


Dear everybody,

I just got out of the car from the airport...heavy security and had to stay in my car for 2 hours..

in meantime I listened to the news...

it is too horrible for words...I have no words for this..

I wish anybody a warm heart and stringth for all the family of hurted people....

I am not able to call to the US..network problems..because of the attacks....

lots of love from all of InterClimax
LittleC. warm heart
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:46:14 213.239.140.229 Post #: 17839


I just gave all my girls the rest of the day off IF they go and give blood...

5+me= 6 pints on the way

Lets goo America Time to UNITE!!!


Forest
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:43:13 209.143.51.21 Post #: 17838




Shok there will be no retaliation any time soon. Bush stopped there because it was close to Florida, and secure.


Mike AI
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:39:44 66.21.160.220 Post #: 17837


Bubba, it's just a rumour, sorry... I found it on slashdot.org
Petr
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:32:15 213.210.135.216 Post #: 17836


I was wondering why the president was in Shreveport, then I remembered that Shreveport has like the largest long range B-52 bomber forces stationed there. I wonder if thats a sign of something to come.

Shok
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:28:13 208.188.25.190 Post #: 17835


If i’m not mistaken the ==CORAN== (Muslims) says ==EYE FOR AN EYE==.
So the US should follow they examples

BEN SAD NEWS FOR EVERY ONE
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:28:12 213.239.140.233 Post #: 17834


http://drudgereport.com/wt.jpg

A sureal photo.
Mike AI
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:27:46 66.21.160.220 Post #: 17833


VooMan...

I know the feeling..

My mother has an office in building 1 and No one has heard from her..

I have 5 friends on the exchange and no word there either...

My Prayers are with all there
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does)
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:26:15 209.143.51.21 Post #: 17832


I am relieved to hear that one of my best friends who lives in New York is fine. He works in the World Financial Center across the street from the Trade Center, and was actually walking to the office and watched from the ground as the second plane hit the Towers. Amazingly enough he bumped into his brother in law during the mayhem(another good friend of mine) and they are trying to get out of Manhattan and back home....

Please say a prayer for my friend Pete whom I have not been able to contact yet. He is a conductor for the PATH train and works the Hoboken to World Trade Center run. He was pulling into the World Trade Center during the bombing a few years back and managed to escape uninjured. I hope he was that lucky again.

Andrew


VooMan NationalNet
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:24:43 207.120.28.121 Post #: 17831


another building in the WTC group is getting ready to fall

this is really bad..
=(((((
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does)
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:22:55 209.143.51.21 Post #: 17830


We here in the US have become confused by the media and public school systems.
The fact is that we are insulated from the horrors of the history.
The human animal in our safe little worlds.
The human species has been and still is nasty and ruthless towards one another.
To look the other way gets you punched on the other cheeck at best.
Alot of Budhist Monks died in wars through out the ages, their belief system did not save them from death.
I am horrified by the events of the day.
I will be more horrified if the US does not go on the full offensive against every known terrorist organization no matter where they may be.
It should be known to the world that if US citzens die from these acts of WAR that the families of the terrorists will not be safe.
We will not be safe in our little
DAMNMAN ZMASTER
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:22:36 64.135.69.171 Post #: 17829


the founder of Akamai Technologies was on board on one the crashed planes...
Petr
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 01:12:53 - IP: 213.210.135.216 - Post # 17819

which co-founder???
Bubba Shouldn't you be Making Bank?
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:22:19 24.19.254.104 Post #: 17828


doh damn cut and paste


grimm
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:20:05 65.27.227.72 Post #: 17827


"What the United States of America is cannot ever be destroyed, it is an idea. No buildings, military equipment, or peice of real estate that is destroyed can put out the becon of Liberty this country provides the world."

well said Mike... very true

we are resilient.. we may fight each other, but don't fuck with us, or we'll band together... the government _has_ to strike hard and fast.. there is no choice... the people will not tolerate a long investigation



geeky
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:19:08 63.49.116.254 Post #: 17826


http://www.taleban.com/
grimm
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:17:51 65.27.227.72 Post #: 17825


"I would say a good place to start the attack is on the West Bank where they are cheering.

I would like to see how cheerful they are while being sprayed with napalm
Jeff
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 01:03:08 - IP: 64.105.76.173 - Post # 17807 "


These guys are cheering.. yet they are driving Ford Cars & Vans.. they have Oakley stickers on them... Yet they say they hate the US.....

Blow them the fuck up.


We are heading up north to my in-laws house for a few days until things calm down. Now is a good time to spend some quality time with your families.. You never know what kind of whackos are around you...



sharky
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:17:27 66.12.212.146 Post #: 17824


Jeff --

I also see it as an act of war, something that was very difficult to explain to my son this morning --

but I also think that careful deliberation in choosing one's battles is a key to a decisive win.
KK
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:15:33 63.225.203.154 Post #: 17823


My live feed sales are down...
Lots of guys in the rooms but ALL are talking about the events
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does)
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:14:28 209.143.51.21 Post #: 17822


DK's offering to help anyone trying to find loved ones in NY. Call him at 516-394-6117
Rox
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:13:37 64.167.216.26 Post #: 17821


I'm much more frigtened by biological warfare.
Hooper
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:13:07 66.68.122.196 Post #: 17820


the founder of Akamai Technologies was on board on one the crashed planes...
Petr
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:12:53 213.210.135.216 Post #: 17819



I agree with whoever made the statement that you don't let the bastards scare you and keep you from living your life. But you also don't go on about your business whistling past the graveyard.

Because one of these times, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, they will use nuclear weapons against us. And it won't be 10's of thousands who suffer but 100's of thousands or more.
mutt
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:11:23 24.112.37.86 Post #: 17818


JMM,
I agree with you that this is an act of war. What Bush does now will set the tone for future terrorist attacks. Bush is looked upon as a joke by the rest of the world and his reaction must be strong and swift or this will keep happening. Nothing was done after the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole and now look what's happened.

I will not be at my computer too much today, I'm trying to get through to most of my family in NY. My mother and I have been going crazy because we can't get in touch with my brother and sister-in-law.
I'll be checking e-mail periodically if anyone needs to get a hold of me.

Red
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:11:03 64.171.146.244 Post #: 17817


Hooper -

"Is anybody else here seeing NO CHANGE in bandwidth? "

I can assure you that there was a big drop in porn surfing. We're seeing a 15%+ drop in the adult surfing across the 45,000 sites we count for..

KC PayCounter, Inc.
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:10:54 67.166.52.163 Post #: 17816


My signups are way up, it's a disgusting thing to see. I would have danced for joy yesterday, today it's simply sickening.
heather
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:10:37 209.177.150.109 Post #: 17815



The last time America was attacked without warning how did it end? The Bomb. That was what Harry Truman decided was the only way to protect more American lives from being lost and the American way of life.

Why is this a different situation? It's not. It's actually worse.
mutt
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:08:10 24.112.37.86 Post #: 17814


Is anybody else here seeing NO CHANGE in bandwidth?

Dunno about you... but it kind of bothers me that people are at home buying porn right now.
Hooper
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:07:45 66.68.122.196 Post #: 17813


Jeff...AMEN.
heather
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:07:34 209.177.150.109 Post #: 17812




Terrorists need to know that this is only a temporary set back to the nations pshyche. The United States will not be intimidated, and will continue to lead the world towards freedom.

Knocking out a few buildings, and martyering thousands of our brothers and sister will only galvinize our resolve. What the United States of America is cannot ever be destroyed, it is an idea. No buildings, military equipment, or peice of real estate that is destroyed can put out the becon of Liberty this country provides the world.


Mike AI
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:07:11 66.21.160.220 Post #: 17811


I like Jeff ,too!
Of course this doesn't mean I like Mutt or Grimm any less!!! >;-)))
DAMNMAN ZMASTER
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:05:27 64.135.69.171 Post #: 17810


thanx ben
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does)
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:04:47 209.143.51.21 Post #: 17809


"Do not let terrorism which is designed to create fear
and stop production, halt your life or work.

Stay focused and do not stop what you are doing. "

Very well said.
Brad Shaw
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:03:43 65.65.84.81 Post #: 17808


I would say a good place to start the attack is on the West Bank where they are cheering.

I would like to see how cheerful they are while being sprayed with napalm
Jeff
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:03:08 64.105.76.173 Post #: 17807


well said Jeff!

unreal!
Jimmyslits
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:02:54 24.221.38.16 Post #: 17806


what a fuckıng day!

Thıs MORNING I saw CNN as one of US congresman was questıonıng israel and ıf israel followed some fuckıng law and ıf they had the rıghts to bomb palestınıan terrosıts wıth US weapon.

I said to myself
what a fucking idiot!!!

I wish everybody to find their relatives alive and well
and İ.m looking for a swift responce by military and blow mothefuckers wherever they hide

God bless America
Serge
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:01:46 195.174.129.208 Post #: 17805


Hello Everyone

The Team at InterClimax would like to send our heart felt sorrow to those that perished in these attacks.

We would like to also say on record that if any country
is found responsible for these attacks, we call for that country's complete destruction and annihilation.

Do not let terrorism which is designed to create fear
and stop production, halt your life or work.

Stay focused and do not stop what you are doing.


-May God bless us all and the decisions we must make.


BEN
BEN SAD NEWS FOR EVERY ONE
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:01:45 213.239.140.233 Post #: 17804


strike and quickly I agree..

But where???

Afgahn? Iraq? do we even know where bin laden is???

I want BLOOD for the people in those buildings!!!
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does)
Tue, 11 Sep - 13:00:22 209.143.51.21 Post #: 17803


http://www.4playradio.com as an awesome feed with live news.

Direct from NY, DK is on the subject.

It's a SAD day today. Even sader to see webmasters pissing at each other during this Chaos.

Keep safe everyone


JMan An Island Gathering
Tue, 11 Sep - 12:59:23 65.92.192.51 Post #: 17802


hooper...go get your reward;)

JMM...im with you, a quick and feirce strike is necessary.
grimm
Tue, 11 Sep - 12:58:49 65.27.227.72 Post #: 17801