Sun, 02 Sep - 17:08:32 172.145.207.124 Post #: 15700
Serge eating? not unusual
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MikeFold, are you calling me fat????
take your golf clubs and meet me on the back yard!
;-)))
Serge
Sun, 02 Sep - 17:04:55 172.145.207.124 Post #: 15699
And you now know how i will react if you continue the bullshit.
gite
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yeah, you will shit your pants and post a scan of it....
go ahead, make my scan!
Serge
Sun, 02 Sep - 17:02:50 172.145.207.124 Post #: 15698
Red did you go to one of those gay bars you were talking about?? I loved it when you called your self a fag-hag.
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No Mike, those were the days of my wild and reckless youth. These days, my most exciting adventures are dinners at Friday's.
Fortunately, my free spirit will forever be immortalized in print and audio.
:)
Sun, 02 Sep - 16:58:07 64.171.146.244 Post #: 15697
Meni both my daughters are very attractive
stuntal
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yeah, that's a skits all right, next basket case please!
Today is Oprano Basket Sunday,
let's all exchange links!
Serge
Sun, 02 Sep - 16:57:26 172.145.207.124 Post #: 15696
gite,
and here is the FIRST word from me.
You got e-mail,
you reported it was a mistake, you were offered removal and you refused, preffering making stink to the skies.
I say that you want recieve those letters and just love making stink, so be it,
stink, stink, stink,
and make me give a fuck.
If you do not send Mike e-mail it means you want it,
and you'll be getting it every week,
enjoy!
Serge
Sun, 02 Sep - 16:55:29 172.145.207.124 Post #: 15695
Stuntal,is your daughter cute?
Meni
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Meni, sKiTz has no daughter....
who comes on the boards with blow at JoeE?
who goes bezerk around holidays?
who does the same thing for over 3 years???
the same derranged creature.
I hope one day they'll find a cure...
Serge
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Wrong again Serge and we all know how you hate being wrong. I am not Skitz. As far as your reasoning goes, there are alot of people out there that think JoeE is a piece of shit,and I have thought so longer than Skitz. I was around when Skitz was defending JoeE on the board. I just stayed quiet for a while and went about my buisness doing it my way and it worked.
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Meni both my daughters are very attractive stuntal
Sun, 02 Sep - 16:50:44 172.137.62.239 Post #: 15694
Serge is paying me .25 per post, so I have to pump out a lot of volume to make my goal of $30 a day!
Ken
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Ken, here is gite, gite, here is Ken,
and after the formal introductions are over-
let's make a bet-
I'll get the fucker under 3 posts...
can you do it in two?
make money old fashioned way-
EARN IT!
;-))
Serge
Sun, 02 Sep - 16:49:15 172.145.207.124 Post #: 15693
MikeAI, wrt Jim & VIP-ID, I'm very disappointed to see the development. I personally have no stake in it, since I didn't run any VIP-ID sites, but knowing what I know about Jim and the crew there, I know that it's a very unfortunate happening that was definitely unplanned. I think there are plenty of operators out there who would've closed their doors and obsconded, Jim chose to eat some crow, write the email he did, keep the program open so the customers who paid for an ID will get what they paid for, put up new sites to replace the ones that leave, and he's paying out for 2 more months. I think that says something, and to trash him for it is really kind of jumping to conclusions.
You know I agree with you on a LOT of things, Mike, but I gotta disagree with you on this one. Would you have notified everyone at the first instance of a problem, before you tried everything to fix it? I don't think so. And I think that's the situation here. I've broken bread with Jim, Steve, and the crew, I think they're good people who will live up to their word. Everyone makes mistakes, at least he owned up to it. If you think he owned up to it too late, so be it, but that's more than others have done.
Gite, 40 minutes and still no e-mail... Seems to me that you would rather bitch and complain and point fingers. It could have taken you 2 seconds to get a solution.
I am familiar SpamCop.net - unfortunately they have no real power, and do not give solutions either. You will forward the spam to them, they will e-mail me and my host ( Me) and say we are spamming - but NO ONE still gives me an e-mail address to remove from the opt-in mailer.
For adultmail, a mailer that hit over 2,000,000 subscirbers at one time would get 3-4 SpamCopy reports a month...
My offer is still open, send me e-mail and I will make sure you are off the list...
If I do not get an e-mail, I will assume you are just trying to cause trouble and piss... Which is cool, I like to piss.
:-)
Term & conditions protect programs from people like you. That is the bottom line. People who join programs and try to bend the rules to only benefit themselves. When a program exercises their T&Cs its always people like you who get all bent out of shape. But the reality is its PEOPLE like YOU who make sponsors put in T&Cs so they can protect themselves against trouble makers.
Sun, 02 Sep - 16:05:26 66.21.168.100 Post #: 15689
Mike, last word from me.
Terms & Conditions are not any basis for excusing or allowing unscrupulous behavior. For all i know, you may have a statement in there allowing you to post child porn. That would not revive you from the consequences of doing so.
Spam is the number one complaint against adult internet business and not allowing it, even among ourselves, is something we must enforce for our own good. And anyone resorting to spam is making a clear statement about the value of their message.
Complaining is not difficult. For those who feel as i do, just goto http://spamcop.net and sign up. Then it is just a matter of pasting in the offending message and letting the program do the work.
i do not have the time or inclination to continue to follow this thread, especially on a board that contains nothing but self-promoting nonsense. And you now know how i will react if you continue the bullshit.
gite
Sun, 02 Sep - 15:56:59 65.32.44.35 Post #: 15688
Hooper I can honestly tell you it is NOT worth it...
HiRise got out of the free hosting biz awhile ago...
Gite it has been 30 minutes, still no e-mail from you. michael @oprano.com Standing by with personalized service.
Sun, 02 Sep - 15:35:19 168.191.209.194 Post #: 15686
Ahhhh Gite, you must not have read T&Cs of my programs - including free hosting. We have the right to send you informational e-mails. And that is what this is.
I still have not received an e-mail from you. Would you rather complain rather then get a solution?
Operators are standing by - waiting for your e-mail so I can take it off the Oprano Mailer.
Sun, 02 Sep - 15:23:27 66.21.168.100 Post #: 15685
Bullshit Mike !
Your statement "we have also added e-mails from people who have joined past programs that I have been affiliated with. Purecash, Adultmail, Free Hosting... " proves that you are cheating spammers. If i did not specifically opt-into you list and your newsletter comes to me anyway, then it is spam, no matter what the source. If you do not want your advertisers and your isp to receive spam complaints, then you had better purge the list and apologize.
btw. i never confirm an email address to spammers.
Gite, at the bottom of the Oprano mailer is where you can get off the list. Problems or complaints with this email? send them to postmaster@oprano.com
The e-mails come from the double opt-in mailer of Oprano, we have also added e-mails from people who have joined past programs that I have been affiliated with. Purecash, Adultmail, Free Hosting...
So your e-mail was not just picked out of a hat.
Oprano is not spammers - nor do we condone spamming. Send me your e-mail address and I will make sure it is taken off personally.
Sun, 02 Sep - 14:52:11 66.21.168.100 Post #: 15680
the only time I swim in the Ocean is when I SCUBA..
That way you can SEE them when they are around and AVOID them....
This Feeding of sharks as a Recreation to divers is verry foolish and I think the recent wave of attacks my be associated with sharks becomeing more adjusted to our precensce in the water
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does)
Sun, 02 Sep - 14:45:08 209.143.51.21 Post #: 15679
There is one certainty in this business, which is that if a person or organization is unscrupulous in any part of their activities, they will cheat when they deal with you in other areas; even if you think you are in on it. Spam is unscrupulous. Your "Oprano Webmaster Weekly" arrived today in a mailbox i have never used to opt-into a newsletter mailing list (i maintain a separate address for that). The only way to redeem yourself is to apologize, purge your list, let everyone know where you got the addresses, and never again spam. Straighten up and fly right boys.
Mike AI Nobody is better then DirectNIC!
Sun, 02 Sep 2001 01:16:21 - IP: 66.21.168.100 - Post # 15638
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ANY body of salt water is off limits for me!! I'm not offering myself up for lunch for anything!! Plenty of pools and fresh water lakes to swim in in the wrld!!!!
Sun, 02 Sep - 13:55:04 172.149.188.249 Post #: 15666
Remember when I asked what was going on with VIP-ID???
Well a spam went out the webmasters, VIP-ID is sunk. I have a feeling they knew about this for awhile, but let webmasters hang on while they knew the ship was sinking. Thus webmasters like me have lost a lot of $$$ ( Is VIP ID going to pay us what they oww?? Is Jim Morrison ( VIP-JIM) going to pay us?).
Not only have we lost $$$ that we have earned, but the people at VIP-ID did not give anyone heads up to move so we do not have more loses. So they have COMPOUNDED the damage.
Amazing....
here is the e-mail:
From: VIP Support
To: bill@bnrenterprises.com
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 9:00 AM
Subject: Important Announcement From VIP-ID
Dear Webmaster,
It is with great sadness that I write this e-mail. We have decided we must close VIP-ID's webmaster program. As you are probably aware
we have been experiencing severe problems with our backend which has effected stats. These programming problems are deeper and
more difficult to fix than we initially suspected. Unfortunately our system is not as stable or adaptable as we would like.
To add to our troubles, this past week we received a ten day notice on our merchant account. Given the current climate, our bank no
longer feels comfortable with an adult merchant with our numbers. Our chargeback rate is 1.75%, which they feel is too high. Our current
system is not flexible enough to allow us to add a third party processor so this is a crippling blow.
I would like to take this opportunity to thank all of the webmasters who have stuck with us. It breaks my heart to make this decision but
at this point I see no other choice. We will do our best to take care of our webmasters. Any monies that are owed will be paid.
Furthermore, we will take your average commission over the past three months and continue to pay you that amount for two more
months. I hope this helps ease the pain of lost renewal income.
We will keep the VIP-ID system up for now as we have members who have already paid for three or six month subscriptions. We plan on
adding sites to make up for webmasters moving their sites elsewhere. As of next Friday, webmaster passwords will no longer work.
We have plans on building a better program with a more adaptable backend that will allow us to deal with situations like this. There is no
date set for this but in the future we will open our doors again. I hope that you will be willing to give us another chance then. Both myself,
and the entire VIP-ID staff, gave this our best effort but at this time we came up short.
Sun, 02 Sep - 13:26:29 66.21.168.100 Post #: 15650
Right on GiGi... School starts in our area on Tuesday so I know this week will not be good. But thank god after that I'll be pretty much free to the world :))
Michael. I dunno but in Dallas last week I mentioned my nail had a "crack" and he started sucking my finger.
Sun, 02 Sep - 13:20:35 66.21.168.100 Post #: 15645
Holy Shit!!!
RRRED joins the parades and will break a news on Tuesday as well!
MikeAI,
let's pass protect the board and start selling the tickets NOW!
;-)))
Serge
Sun, 02 Sep - 13:20:34 172.149.188.249 Post #: 15644
Serge I want that golden tongue thing as a permanent tagline
like
MIssy's false "no one is better than me"
I'm better than her
ask any fireman in s. fl MeniJenna Cash
Sun, 02 Sep - 13:19:46 24.218.204.233 Post #: 15643
I'm always here RRRed! Just gimme a buzz if yer feelin' the urge to take a run for the border...hehe.
We have 'webmaster wednesdays' every so often....you'll have to come to the next one! I'll buzz you with the details!
Sun, 02 Sep - 13:17:31 24.218.204.233 Post #: 15640
The most fun I had all year was passing out in a gay Ibiza night club and waking up with $4,000 in my fag bag, no clothes on, and so much love goo on me, I could drown a midget MeniJenna Cash
Sun, 02 Sep - 13:16:52 24.218.204.233 Post #: 15639
You mean he doesn't provide you with hardcore drugs as part of your compensation package? Completely Unacceptable!
Zimm (SnuggleBunny) - You better start taking better care of your key people. With all the biz going on around here, you never know who might be trying to steal them away from you..... KenLarry Flynt Signs the Checks. I just mail them out....
Sun, 02 Sep - 13:04:35 64.22.133.97 Post #: 15634
RRRed good job on the cancer sticks.... One of the worst, most dangerous habits a person can have.
Sun, 02 Sep - 13:00:50 66.21.168.100 Post #: 15633
Serge I think you were missing the gist of the call I made to you. my call was directed at expaning Oprano's services to the thousands of webmasters who visit on a regular basis. Sure we have a great chat board - with colorful personalities, and lots of great information being discussed.
Sure we open the TGP2 board that is rocking along - and of course the Caption Contest has been a huge hit.
Oprano is the perefect place to conduct business and have fun at the same time....
but I wanted to do more... more information, more entertainment, more business building, MORE MORE MORE...
So that is what I said to Serge, what he heard was... " We have a great new opportunity for smaller and midsized sponors to get a great value in advertising their programs"
Funny how 2 people can be discussing the same thing and get 2 completely different things out of it. Think it could be the language barrier... haha
Although actually it is merely both sides of the same coin...
Sun, 02 Sep - 12:59:44 66.21.168.100 Post #: 15632
Ken, actually working for Jason causes this intense need for herion or crack. But since I love him so much that I would give my kidney, I'll try to lay off :)
I actually took time for myself and
went out last night, but don't worry Mike, I got your e-mail and I will be at my desk for the rest of the weekend. *chains rattling*
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Red did you go to one of those gay bars you were talking about?? I loved it when you called your self a fag-hag.
Southern Decedence is this weekend in New Orleans - 50,000+ gay people partying in the Quarter.
Sun, 02 Sep - 12:17:29 172.149.188.249 Post #: 15614
Serge, I will be in FL, Sept 20-23 staying in Coral Springs with MikeW.
If you want a blowjob, let me know
Meni Jenna Cash
Sun, 02 Sep 2001 11:48:00 - IP: 24.218.204.233 - Post # 15607
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Is it okay if I use this post to put on a few boards I know?
Sun, 02 Sep - 12:15:00 65.185.104.173 Post #: 15613
Ken,
sorry, but CashQuest and FlyntDigital are way to small to use
what we have to offer.
We designed something to be more of an interest to guys like
Hooper, Meni, and few others who have to creatively spam the boards because very little guys like you and Mr.Cash got all the best spots above!
;-)))
Sun, 02 Sep - 11:15:31 209.143.51.21 Post #: 15602
Sorry Serge..
The girl got to me FIRST..lol
OK I retractd my earlier aol comment...but the aol 6.0 changes Everything on your computer...I had to kick the girls off mine and get them their own just for that reason
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does) Cuz Free Willi is better than No Willi at ALLLLL
Sun, 02 Sep - 11:13:14 209.143.51.21 Post #: 15601