I LOVE the smell of TGP2 In the Morning!!!!!
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does)
Thu, 23 Aug - 08:48:56 209.143.51.21 Post #: 13399
interesting idea ...
I could see that working for smaller webmasters or smaller farmers ... but how do you pay the hun to stop? what about all the web site owners making more than $20 a month?
well, not just the hun, but the large ones who are providing enough free porn to make those smaller guys barely relevant...
cj,
I don't know about the rest of the world,
but here in America,
when farmers grow too much corn,
The United States Government
PAYS THEM not to grow it!
Pay site owners should do the same!
Pay fuckers making $20 a month
those $20 a month and have them sign
I WON"T DO SHIT on the net no more and pay them for life.
(if they break the promise,
and I can maintain d/b for a very nominal fee)
ban his payments from ALL progies!
via 3 rd party processors and progies themselves.
90% of folks out there don't make more than $20 a month!
Thu, 23 Aug - 08:13:05 203.164.2.198 Post #: 13387
I have 299,990 people a day that are a waste of bandwidth. I'm just looking for 10 good men.
Colin
Thu, 23 Aug - 08:12:18 24.164.51.72 Post #: 13386
colin
to date we have tested our traffic , in members section , in our mail lists , on the websites and on exit consoles.
we have designed the banners so the surfers know what they are clicking on as our object is not to attract the horny surfer but the surfer that doesnt want the porn anymore. to be honest with you we are still testing the marketing and it is alot of trial and error but lets face it if someone clicks on a horseracing banner instead of continueing on with looking at porn then the porn site operator can do without that person anyway - probably a waste of bandwidth :-)
as we do more tests i will give everyone who has signed up more info and how it best be promoted as we work it out :-)
once i can determine a satisfactory conversion rate then i will also bring to market a pay per click program as well as a the per sign up one.
Thanks for that one, Serge .. i will let you know ;)
Colin
Thu, 23 Aug - 08:00:31 24.164.51.72 Post #: 13381
Yeah .. unrealracing.com ..
How do you find it converting for adult sites? Do you have a good example of how to market it?
Given all the talk about falling signup ratios across the board ..
it would be nice to be able to sell the surfer somethign BESIDES porn memberships.
How does one go about marketing a product like yours to a horny surfer?
Colin
Thu, 23 Aug - 08:00:02 24.164.51.72 Post #: 13380
i think last will be some of the big companies ... in fact, serge, can I ask another question?
who is the first going to launch a program which is to 'collect' all of the loose tgp traffic?
and what solutions are being arranged to try to make tgp traffic valuable again?
we know it doesn't work on 'mega site' style sites - niches have moderate luck ... what do you think about a program like the racing program of general's and how it would work with tgp traffic?
personally I thank that if tgp traffic (who are porn surfers that are previously satisfied for free) we're sent to a game style product ... well ... i guess we'll see some numbers soon?
Thu, 23 Aug - 07:30:35 144.137.133.143 Post #: 13372
"10% of webmasters make 90% of the money."
The rule is more likely 80/20.
This is a mathematical distribution called Pareto's Law. It is the NATURAL income distribution when markets are free.
It's related to something called Zipf's Law and in turn related to something many webmasters here will remember from a while back as Benford's Law (Serge loves Benford Law! So do I!)
80% of the wealth is held by 20% of the population,
80% of the work is done by 20% of the people.
One of the strange results is that if you categorize everyone's income in an entire industry, that 30% of the people will have an income starting with a number one ($1,xxx or $10,xxx or $1xx,xxx and so on) and not the 10% that you would expect by chance (this can be a baffling thing when you first hear it).
Another result is that as a population increases, the distribution spreads, more and more money will be concentrated in the hands of fewer and fewer people and the poorer tail of the distibution gets longer too. The popular expression regarding "The rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer is completely correct."
It's also a fact of nature. Or at least, it's exactly what you would expect to find by modeling the population after a random ditribution of wealth.
Thu, 23 Aug - 07:10:13 203.164.2.198 Post #: 13369
I think it's not bad for a first day out. NONE of the folks who joined saw the site or concept before. I'll be curious to see the ratious when surfer saw the site 5-6 times
;-)))
Serge 1:235 closing ratio so far
Thu, 23 Aug - 07:09:38 12.89.182.83 Post #: 13368
hahaha - sounds like a good relationship to me :-)
cj i have an idea about the stance on free porn remind me to tell you about it when we catch up next tuesday.
I used to have a girlfriend...she spoke with accent and I speak with accent,
we didn't understand each other on the phone...when problem arose, we took it to e-mail
;-))
Serge
Thu, 23 Aug - 06:58:37 12.89.182.83 Post #: 13365
serge, your laugh was freakin me out a little ... i was not sure if you we're lost in chuckling or choking :-)))) cjdown with free porn!!!!!!
Thu, 23 Aug - 06:54:29 203.164.2.198 Post #: 13364
i know what you mean i always sound terrible on radio or video , i would hate to think i sound like that all the time.
its much more self assuring talking on chat board :-))) General (Once an Innovator is ALWAYS an Innovator!)
Thu, 23 Aug - 06:54:13 144.137.133.143 Post #: 13363
but .GOD is an easy sell -
Joe Baptista
*****************
Oh My God!!!!!
I thought I've seen it all,
now they selling GOD on Oprano!!!
I'm calling Christian Coalition of America, Mr. Fallwell, Vatican,
Church of Jesus Christ and Later Saints, KKK*, Unibomber, Richard The Lion Heart
and organise the crusade to RESCUE GOD and prevent futher
GOD sales,
wholesale and retail!
1% of webmasters make 99% of the money.
Hooper Join the 1%
Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:48:29 - IP: 66.68.122.196 - Post # 13316
And whos fault is that? That needs to change. If you cant change the way the current game is played, change the game altogether. Introduce innovation and a new way of thinking. Stop settling for what is viewed as "the way it is" There are enough bright young minds in this industry to affect change.
If you want to change the stratification of money in this industry, change the way the money is earned. Level the playing field with new avenues of traffic and advertising innovations. Then make them come to you. The driving factor here is economics. This is not a popularoty contest, It is not spin that matters, just effectiveness. IF it works, it will win.
Thu, 23 Aug - 04:07:00 216.67.210.247 Post #: 13349
heheh, me too
that's you don't see me in pissing matches that often..I have very few buttons to push...I don't give fuck one about being a player, mover, shaker, innie, outie, whatever...I just have fun and never take myself too seriously ;)
yeah DarkDollars sucks with general traffic (sorry, I mean, sure it closes 1:40 all the time ;))) but tit does well with fetish, goth and teen traffic...
Thu, 23 Aug - 03:41:30 66.68.122.196 Post #: 13344
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hooper are we talking about your penis below?
----
below where?
*jumping & ducking in a confused state*
actually the blowjob comment was a total joke ;-)))
Hooper
Thu, 23 Aug - 03:37:42 66.68.122.196 Post #: 13343
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Hooper - I'm not pitching .GOD
---
But you ARE because I'd never heard of it until you said it... & i assure you that mr cooldick doesn't come here... he's less than welcome ;-)))
Hooper
Thu, 23 Aug - 03:36:15 66.68.122.196 Post #: 13342
Thu, 23 Aug - 01:22:13 216.103.234.169 Post #: 13321
"1% of webmasters make 99% of the money.
Hooper "
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Sorry, son, it's more like .01%, the rest are just .moronic, period. ;-}}}
It's a sad state of affairs when hordes of webmasters are led to believe their counter stats -- non-paying counters to boot -- are more important than the checks they get for this traffic.
Grimm mentioned a new foundation on Drav's show tonite -- and getting the per click value back into the realm of what it should be -- I think he's dead on the money. Any webmaster that seriously considers 1:10,000 to be acceptable ought to be banned to the .moronic domain forever.
KK
Thu, 23 Aug - 01:17:45 209.181.109.209 Post #: 13320
Ulfie that might violate the extension Serge and I have gone in the biz for .moron Please notice the subtle difference.
We are also looking into .sucker .retard ( .tard for short) .fools and of course the popular .cockholster
Thu, 23 Aug - 00:35:41 203.164.2.198 Post #: 13314
Hello:
Just left message on netpond. I was told it was appropriate here too. So I have attached it here.
New update on Thomas Goolnik .SEX mascot
Well - I'm sure everyone here knows me by now. I'm the the TLD administrator for .GOD who is keeping a very close eye on one Thomas Goolnik who claims to be the exclusive registrar of .GOD, & .SEX top level domains. a.k.a. dotsex.com and dotgod.com.
Mr. Goolnik seems like a control freak. he has specifically instructed his lawyer Ari Goldberger of NJ that he shall not speak with any representative of .GOD by telephone. So I and his lawyer are restricted to communicating via email or fax. Very droll. Very childish. And just plain stupid. Ari is a good guy - he's on the right side of domain issues - more or less. So I find it a bit offensive that the lawyer has been leashed like a dog.
In any case - Thomas Goolnik has threatened to sue us for liable and slander. We think this is a positive development. I have now collected enough evidence and have committments for affidavits which will clearly show Goolnik as being a liar and we welcome a liable and slander suit to prove it so.
Please understand folks that Mr. Goolnik is not the issue here. Mr. Goolnik like any other opportunist or scondrel is taking advantage of a the usual government fuckups. And ICANN is the biggest government fuckup this world has seen. Many of you should be involved in these issues. Your freedoms are at stake. ICANN is attempting to take over the entire domain industry once managed by Dr. Jon Postel.
Now, under ICANN's administration the internet domain industry - and the internet is in tormoil. Last year we had a good block of souls leave the united states internet.
There are about 300 million users now online and some 50 - 80 million active ips at any one time on the internet. All of those system in the past used the United States Government root system to navigate. This year that number has been erroded by at least 100 million users. The People republic of China left at the biggining of the year. The new.net took over 60 million users off the USG root.
Now what does this mean to you. To me it means the internet is looking alot like Somalia. Somalia is a country with some three to five telephone companies and non of them interconnect. So if you want to make a call in Somalia you better make sure you order a phone from each telephone company.
Somalia is a dogs breakfast when it comes to telecommunication and the internet is looking alot like that. But people suck as the TLDA www.tlda.org are trying their best to pull the different systems together. And it is working - but slowly.
Mr. Goolnik is just another charlitain taking advantage of a very sad situation. Soon we will have to switch roots like the Somalians switch telephone to dial each other. It much like having two area code 212's at opposite ends of the country both sharing the same prefixs.
Like I said - a dogs breakfast. And the reson for all of this rests at the feet of ICANN. ICANN has become a government run quango and it's beginning to show.
Mr. Goolnik is nothing more nor less then an opportunist who sees a chance to make a quick buck out of the confusion. And so far he's managed to make this month in excess of $100,000 USD on 1,500 domain names ending in .SEX at $60.00 USD a piece. And ICANN is his meal ticket.
So we maybe sued soon. And I'm looking forward to it. It will give me an opportunity to educate the world. And that's why I'm here. I need your help.
I am not new to Liable and Slander suites. So I know that the intention here is not to win - but to get a court order as fast as possible so that I can be silenced. That why I'm looking for volunteers who can carry on their web pages the investigation I have made of Goolnik. These are the various pages indexed at:
That's the real goal of any libel and slander proceeding. So I need people who are willing to put those web pages on their web sites so that a history of Mr. Goolniks activities exist. A record of truth while we go through this trial. Assuming there will be claim from Goolnik.
If not we intend to sue him in due time. At this time I'm trying to repair the damage he has done to our reputation through his spamming of the dot.GOD name.
So if you can help and is you have a web site where we can house copies - just in case. Send me email. Tell me about your system. And i'll make ready for this possible outcome.
Thu, 23 Aug - 00:31:19 24.141.238.157 Post #: 13313
Sharky thanks for a great dinner, and even better company...
You know Katie is not raising her own peppercorns at the condo now!
hahaha
Mike AI
Thu, 23 Aug - 00:25:30 65.34.84.86 Post #: 13312
But I'm sure I can hook you up with a garbageman or two.
MelissaD (Nobody is better than me!) In case you need proof!
Wed, 22 Aug 2001 07:40:34 - IP: 65.81.1.254 - Post # 13278
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Meni I tend to go for Italian or Aussie.
MelissaD (Nobody is better than me!) In case you need proof
Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:27:32 - IP: 65.81.1.254 - Post # 13282
well MelissaD...i'm Aussie, with some Italian descendancy and worked as a Garbo..
so honeybun, if you refer a SPONSOR to http://www.lastconsole.com i'll let you play with me through a hole in a wall oneday :-))
NOTE for people who meet my Girlfriend in HAWAII MARCH 2002
if i cant see who it is it aint cheating..
just dont do the ol switcheroo on me :-))
"Tell Us What You Got"
has an article this week titled
TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT
it's by a Big Hitter, someone that the boards do not see and you can read it by entering your e-mail address(that shows who you are) at
http://www.sexsponsors.com/start.html
thanks for releasing my new non adult program for http://www.unrealracing.com , we are starting to get some good momentum going now. we had a little problem with the stats which will flush through soon.
can i get some feedback from a few webmasters on the loading speed of this site please http://www.battletrolls.com and if there is any interest in promoting this sort of site shoot me an email
Thu, 23 Aug - 00:04:32 203.48.38.135 Post #: 13309
Excellent show Drav and Electra, this evening -- your guests made a ton of sense, had numbers to back up their ideas and a good discussion was had in chat by most all :)
Boy I can see Red's review now of todays Oprano, it might become a pearl in itself ---
KK
Wed, 22 Aug - 23:08:39 209.181.109.209 Post #: 13308
The 18 minutes are not missing on the FM vs Serge.. they are missing on the Serge! We have gone beyond regular broadcasting in perfecting the "time warp" protocol.
For my complete reference on "Performance of Time Warp Protocols for Transaction Management in Object-Oriented Systems" Please see: