Deecash gets One Click Billing !

[gonzo]

Looks like Deecash is coming for Amazon in regards to one click billing.
Pretty nifty trick. Its my opinion from what I've read that they send out an email that tricks the reader into clicking a link. I guess that this link stuffs the payment data into a nice "post" action that submits to the processing gateway and looks like the transaction was entered by the user.
I guess that makes sense as you can share credit card data from all the companies you own. Heres the post that was deleted on GFY.

More selective journalism from AVN I suppose.

Unauthorised charges on credit cards from MediaRevenue sites

Hi all,

For those that know us, will know that we are ones to avoid drama, and prefer to leave that to others, we just like to get our heads down, and get on building the best softcore sites we can!

However, there are some things that came to light over the last few weeks that I really feel the community need to make their own decisions on.

A quick synopsis of the events:

* We run the site www.porn-rewards.com, a loyalty site for users that join adult sites, if they join via our PR link, we give them PR points then when they have enough points they can spend the points on a free 30 day membership to a site of their choice. We do this buy purchasing a 30 day membership on their behalf with our own credit card.

When we join a site on behalf of a PR member, we always use unique, random usernames and passwords.

* On 14 March 2011 we joined the site socksorority.com (a Bad Girls Bucks site), and then cancelled within the 30 day period. We used a unique username (AsfgHYtv) and unique password.

Then on 5 May 2011 an unauthorised charge was made to our credit card for $9.95 for membership to the site xmovies.com (a Movie Profits site). An email was sent and the username / password combination was exactly the same as the original join to socksorority.com. This has been recurring for a couple of months until our accounts picked this up and started to investigate further.

* When the above unauthorised transaction was detected, further investigation found another new transaction on 16 July 2011, this time for membership to wildpass.com this one for $11.32. Again this was using the same username and password combination from the 14 March transaction.

* On 30 June 2011 there was another unauthorised transaction on our card for $39.95. Whilst we never got an email I can trace for this one so I do not know the username or what site it was for, I know it is associated with mediarevenue, as the reference on the bank is PGRECINCCOM.COM which is the same processor as used for the unauthorised xmovies.com transaction.


When I initially contacted Nick / Tam about the first transaction I was told by Tam, that all was corrected and the transaction refunded. On pushing for more of an explanation as to how it could have happened, initially I had a reply from Nick,

"We recently switched to NETCASH 3rd party billing and had to switch back, when we switch billing systems we our members a discount on their membership to make up for any possible confusion..

We would never take any money fraudulently, our support agents are available 24/7 and when people want to cancel/refund their memberships we make that happen asap."

On pushing for a better response (the one above makes no sense to me), it took some chasing, then got a longer response from Tam, the shorter version of this was,

"When you signed up, maybe you didn’t uncheck the cross sales, or we had a script error that day on the processor end? This is another piece we have to research..in any case, those xsales are indeed in house and owned by us. It is not an outside entity.

Our company is quite large. And currently you are catching is in the middle of a tremendous overall. We have 40+ programs, 40+ NATS licenses, and are merging them all into 10.

This is quite the task, and involved with it is also a new 7 day hold and payout plan, moving to a 4 day...and everything involved with this. As well as moving all the processing to within those guidelines and mergers.

The processing issue did happen, we acknowledge this, and thank you for pointing it out. Hopefully you can see it was not intentional, and you can see something like this could have happened with everything going on."


With regards unchecking cross sales, (a) we always do (b) but even if we did not in error, our membership to socksorority.com ended 14 April 2011, these unauthorised transactions started in May / June / July.


There were other transactions our accounts found from 2010 that were unauthorised in a similar style (we made a paid for join using unique user/pass then a few months later an unauthorised transaction to another site using the same username/password), but these were with the old SOBV sites, and on raising these with Media Revenue, I was told they only took ownership in Jan 2011, so this needs taking up with the past owners. I cannot dispute that and did not mention these transactions further with them.


On pushing Tam / Nick for a better explanation on the charges from their sites as I still do not feel this was a good explanation, I received an email from Tam saying "this matter is closed for us, you are now verging on harassment, and its time to move on. Any more false accusations or misinformation from you, I will have sent directly to our attorneys, XXXXXX, here in Orlando."


I am posting this to the community so as you can read all this, and make your own minds up.

This industry is suffering enough with tubes sites, torrents, forums posting full site sets, and if the customer can no longer have confidence in the billing practices of sites, what hope is there for the industry to turn the tide and start growing again with confidence.

We have removed all links to any Media Revenue site from porn-rewards.com and would not promote them, or any other site / sponsor they may join with in the future.

I am sure I will get grief for posting this, and debated whether I should, but this is something I feel very strongly about, and would like others to make their own minds up.

Regards,

Paul
www.porn-rewards.com

[Toby]

Their dime store C & D letters won't get it removed here

[spazlabz]

Thanks for re-posting this Gonzo, I had seen all the threads over at the zoo but not the one that started it all

[gonzo]

I hope they are advertising it as one click.
As a stock holder of Amazon I know they hold the patent on that so Ill make sure they get a C&D of their own.

[RawAlex]

What I think is amazing is that pretty much everyone knows the score at Deecash, and yet when they get called out, they still flatly deny it.

There is a reason why they bought all those dead or dying programs, there is a reason why the owning company name comes up as a graphic rather than text (you can't seach it on google!), and there are reasons why the billing and processing companies all seem to come back to the same ownership and same places, spread over addresses in many different countries.

Some of the addresses in the UK for "major" billing companies came back to residential homes, flats, and the like.

What I wonder is what percentage of AVN's revenue now comes from Deecash?

[Toby]

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Toby

Deecash and Manwin all aspire to be like those guys.
Tough when you got to hide out and be careful with your spending.

Look at poor Daniel Sunden...

[gonzo]

There are lots of information sources out there.
I offered to write an article for AVN but they are busy investigating.

So heres some information for Theo.

[Credit Card Fraud] Unauthorized Charge for $39.71 from the UK
Nice long thread on Visa fraud. Anything look familiar here?

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r246...71-from-the-UK

heres an excerpt...

Layers upon Layers of inter connections and obsfucations, a herculean forensic task to unwind the layers of this mountain of data:

Another example, the above address of
HANAN INVESTMENTS LTD

8 Molyfair Close Kepier Chair, Crawcrook.

Also hits for:
LB JUGGCASH LIMITED
LB BELVEDERE LTD.

So let's take one common name that repeatedly shows up in a wide range of related documents FERMOYA LTD and pursue that angle and related connections further. Fermoya Ltd which shows up on many of the documents and Bournewood Ltd which shows up alongside it on HANAN INVESTMENTS LTD both as fleeting short term directors. Fermoya Ltd and Bournewood Ltd are both shell companies registered in the notorious haven of Tortola, in the British Virgin Islands.

FERMOYA LTD

said by complaintsboard.com :
Deepak Agarwal
I am an ex Local Billing employee, the owners of www.acaiberryexclusive.com, www.acaiberry-lifecleanse.com, www.absoluteacaiberry.com and another sites with these fake diet products (colon cleanser, acai berry, resveratrol). They are operating using various companies: Viv3Labs for Europe, FMW Laboratories for US And, lately, to avoid the problems caused by the scam using Viv3Labs, they are using Trading Planet Ltd for Europe and Information Tech Systems LTd for US.
The business model is to offer a FREE SAMPLE, only charging you the postage (this is an excuse to get your credit card number) and, then, due to HIDDEN Terms and Conditions, charge people incredible amounts of money for pills, which in any retail place cost less than 6 US$ per bottle.
The owners of those sites are Deepak Argwal [Edit=corrected to Deepak Agarwal](>http://www.ccap.ph/index.php?option=...d=76:hot-topic, apart from this business –contactcenter, legal-, he is running more than 2.000 Porn Sites –see DeeCash.com-), Clay Douglass (»www.linkedin.com/in/claydouglass) and Mitch Platt (»www.linkedin.com/pub/mitch-platt/4/271/878) and their plan is to scam as much possible and, then, go for another product and do the same (SCAM).
It is easy to contact them through the information who appears on the site registration of www.acaiberryexclusive.com. Now, they discovered this hole on their ability to remain hidden and are registering the new sites using a Marketing company located in the US:
ACAIBERRYEXCLUSIVE.COM - Whois Information
Registrant:
Douglass, Clay clay.douglass@viveraglobal.com
Viv3 Lab Limited
Unit 5, Mill Road Industrial Estate
Linlithgow, WL EH49 7QY
GB
Domain name: ACAIBERRYEXCLUSIVE.COM
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
viveraglobal, Hostmaster hostmaster@viveraglobal.com
Viv3 Lab Limited
Unit 5, Mill Road Industrial Estate
Linlithgow, WL EH49 7QY
GB
+44.08082389891
Another evidence that Local Billing is behind those companies is consulting the impressun of the web pages (for example www.absoluteacaiberry.com, »www.absoluteacaiberry.com/fronte···caiBerry) and seeing that is a Local Billing company behind them:
Impressum:
LB Pegasus Limited
29 Wordsworth Gardens
Dipton
Stanley
Co Durham
DH9 9LG
United Kingdom
+48 222 120 179
LB states for Local Billing….
And also resveratrol product site, www.winedetox.com, the impressum of the page (>http://www.winedetox.com/frontend/jo...ontent=ResVmax) is the following:
Impressum:
Trading Planet LTd.
56 Thorton Close
Pelton
Chester Le Street
Co Durham
DH2 1QH
United Kingdom

Hosting for Local Billing and for the pills sites is held in the Netherlands, in a company called RedBee.
Also, they are using a company called Phytoscience, located in the same address than viv3, to make the handling and the postal distribution of the products. The manager of Phytoscience is called Chris Swanson and his email is chris@phytoscience.co.uk.
Other addresses of these scammers:
Local Billing Ltd, Pau Claris, 100, 08009 Barcelona, Spain (they are operating from here, it is an useful contact for the police)
clay.douglass@localbillinglimited.com
mitch.platt@localbillinglimited.com
claydouglass@gmail.com

Dee likes the ACAI BERRY

http://www.complaintsboard.com/compl...e-c148295.html


While all the idiots were hanging out on the sweet cruise in Miami while Dee was big dicking this has been going on for YEARS

Check out this from our pals at DamageX

http://www.askdamagex.com/f2/i-just-...ivities-32699/

Makes sense to change your name to cool off some of the heat but Google is forever.

[gonzo]

Another mysteriously banned guy on GFY pointing all this out.
http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=987248

Eric really cares about all of this though. End of the thread was the pussy call of post proof or be banned -and the guy was gone.

Maybe AVN will figure out whos been keeping all of this squelched when playboy couldnt.

[LAJ]

Par-tay?

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by LAJ

Par-tay?

Yeah assclown Bob Rice right in the middle of all that shit hiding out like a criminal in Costa Rica.

What a joke the people on here that thought a former bartender was an ICON in this business... oh but wait all of those guys making that case are long since OUT of this business.

[LAJ]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Yeah assclown Bob Rice right in the middle of all that shit hiding out like a criminal in Costa Rica.

What a joke the people on here that thought a former bartender was an ICON in this business... oh but wait all of those guys making that case are long since OUT of this business.

OR they are still in and have lost all relevance. I think there are a few stragglers out there still.

[Toby]

Free IconBob!

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by LAJ

OR they are still in and have lost all relevance. I think there are a few stragglers out there still.

No they are GONE!
No one left to sing praises of ASSCLOWN Bob Rice.

I wish Cockgobblin Bob Rice would call me and ask me to take down a thread.

[gonzo]

Deecash is going to punish us all now.

Just got this

To all MediaRevenue's valued & loyal affiliates!
Inbox
X
Reply
noreply@mediarevenue.com ✆ to me
show details 1:07 PM (12 minutes ago)
Dear Loyal Affiliate,

This week we have stuck to what we know is truthful and right. We stood our ground and stuck to our word. We look legal
action in effort to put a stop to false allegations created by those within the industry who have hidden agendas and love
creating drama. Our action was noticed and responded to in a manor we expected. The result is our complete disassociation
from the webmaster forum "GFY". We no longer will participate in public forums in regards to any false allegations.

We are going to hold our ground and defend what we have spent countless years to build. We will be taking legal action to
those who continue to attack us in attempt to tarnish our brand. Our presence will no longer be made in public forums
supporting those out to intentionally affect us in a negative manor. We have a strong business and an even stronger team.
All of which is completed by our strong presence in the affiliate space by those who are loyal to our brand. We will
continue to rock the industry, make headlines and kick butt as we have for many years.

Please stay tuned for the new developments we all have worked hard to bring you, including merged programs, 4 day holds, and
new websites and programs.

If anybody has any questions or concerns, then you can contact Nick@MediaRevenue.com or Tam@MediaRevenue.com and you will be
answered as soon as possible.

Thank you again for your continued support,

Sincerely,

Media Revenue

[gonzo]

More reading
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5399671/medi...ue-connect.rar

[RawAlex]

You get bonus points for being stupid when you start blind billing the guys from freeones.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

You get bonus points for being stupid when you start blind billing the guys from freeones.

Almost as brilliant as emailing every single affiliate letting them know to go check out the drama on GFY, just in case they weren't aware of it.

[Hell Puppy]

All one has to do is google to find out Deecash is owned by Deepak Agarwal.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

All one has to do is google to find out Deecash is owned by Deepak Agarwal.

But, it appears that may no longer be the case. It appears that various authorities wish to speak with him about nutriceuticals.

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by Toby

But, it appears that may no longer be the case. It appears that various authorities wish to speak with him about nutriceuticals.

Dee is apparently long gone, or his ownership of things is very, very well hidden behind all sorts of blinds. He is apparently wanted for discussion in a number of countries, and his current whereabouts are not being discuss publically.

At this point, it's the NickB and Tam show, with people like Winston in there doing the affiliate thing, which if he is learning from Bob, should be entertaining but expensive.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Dee is apparently long gone, or his ownership of things is very, very well hidden behind all sorts of blinds. He is apparently wanted for discussion in a number of countries, and his current whereabouts are not being discuss publically.

At this point, it's the NickB and Tam show, with people like Winston in there doing the affiliate thing, which if he is learning from Bob, should be entertaining but expensive.

What would assclown Bob Rice know about running an affiliate program?
Outside of his bragging on his bobbyrica.com site and ripping off Kevin G's cigar site the guy has no experience in anything but fetching another cold beer.

Everybody knows even hen he was doing the radio thing that it was LAJ doing all the work with bobby rica just showing up.

His claim to fame was Ynot... hell show me one thing that he did over there?
The guy didnt even post with any regularity.

[RawAlex]

Let's just add to the mix that Teenrevenue, which claims not to be owned by Mediarevenue, is owned by:

Nethole Services LTD Strovolou 77, Strovolos Center, Flat 204, Nicosia, P.C. 2018, Cyprus
Sampson Investments AVV holds the Trademark & Copyright.

Nethole services owns blueballscash.com, which remarkably has this whois:

NetHole Services LTD
Strovolou 77, Strovolos Center
Flat 204
Nicosia, 2018 32773
Cyprus
Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: BLUEBALLSCASH.COM
Created on: 01-May-09
Expires on: 01-May-12
Last Updated on: 21-Mar-11
Administrative Contact:
Salas, Arnoldo soloconverts@gmail.com
NetHole Services LTD
Strovolou 77, Strovolos Center
Flat 204
Nicosia, 2018 32773
Cyprus
+357.4074597696 Fax --
Technical Contact:
Salas, Arnoldo soloconverts@gmail.com
NetHole Services LTD
Strovolou 77, Strovolos Center
Flat 204
Nicosia, 2018 32773
Cyprus
+357.4074597696 Fax --
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.NATIONALNET.COM
NS2.NATIONALNET.COM

Hmmm... solocoverts.

Freaking small world, isn't it?

[Toby]

All these sites, programs, "owners" are so intertwined that it's next to impossible to determine exactly who owns what and when they acquired it.

About the only thing that's consistent is customer credit cards getting abused.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Toby

All these sites, programs, "owners" are so intertwined that it's next to impossible to determine exactly who owns what and when they acquired it.

About the only thing that's consistent is customer credit cards getting abused.

Which means the merchant is the one responsible.

[will76]

Originally Posted by gonzo

I hope they are advertising it as one click.
As a stock holder of Amazon I know they hold the patent on that so Ill make sure they get a C&D of their own.

I don't think it gets advertised at all, it goes something like this " click here to get access to site xxxxx " and boom your credit card is charged just from clicking the link.

But I am sure this will all come out during AVN's investigation, some time in the year 2025....

[EmporerEJ]

Can someone tell me why there seems to be a bias against AVN? I'm seeing these threads all attacking them. I feel compelled to ask whenever a local boy is attacked?