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well this is an interesting topic to me as im also interested in starting my own paysite ( have a great idea - just not the resources to get the custom content needed done to get it going ) but i would also like to know what would be needed
from people ive talked too @ internext you could use filler content like pluginfeeds.com ( there may be other ones but thats all ive investigated so far ) to fill your members area for you
Originally posted by Sabby@Jan 15 2005, 11:42 AM Okay, Im starting my program with 6 exclusive content sites. Alot of the photo sets and video can be used on more than one site.
How much content should each pay site have before it is ready to be launched?
Sabby
I start with 15 or 17 and update every 5 days.....
Huge quantity is not as important as a lot of people think. Quality is.
Wow... some intellegent posts from Rhymer today... I am impressed.
My main upsell and filler content on my sites will be interclimax naturally because I am also part of them. Private cams shows and archives of my shows on there will be an easy sale and even requested by my members.
Sabby
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Originally posted by Sabby@Jan 15 2005, 02:57 PM Wow... some intellegent posts from Rhymer today... I am impressed.
My main upsell and filler content on my sites will be interclimax naturally because I am also part of them. Private cams shows and archives of my shows on there will be an easy sale and even requested by my members.
Sabby
Well, ya know Sabby. I ain't been around all these years cause I am pretty. I just seem to have this talent for content and spin.
Sabby, lots of good points here ... I would also support the 'regular updates are better than bulk content', however you have to look at whether you have a trial, what your retention from the trial is etc.
If you have content that updates every day, you have to make sure that the customer who signed up *today* can see that you have updated X times this week ... with our celeb sites, we have an updates block on our front page of members that lists the last week of updates, and a 'more' page that catalogues every update we ever made.
I can't stress enough how important it is to present content creatively & to build 'time wasters' ... ie, turn a bunch of pics of yourself into jigsaws or, maybe with your style of site, a 'request' line ?
As for pin pointing exactly how many pics & vids ... you could justify a 'paysite' with less than 100 pics, if you presented them & priced it right. Pick up a magazine and count how many pics are in each 'spread' - its usually a 6 page spread, no more than 10 pics, and its about $5 - 7 for a magazine.
I've been working on breaking my members content into 'blocks' and converting it to ebooks -
http://www.purvette.com
1 ebook is made up of about 10 stories, the other 2 have about 15 articles in each.
Purve Models Australia has about 20 'centerfold' pics of varying sizes, 40 small pics of treasure trails and several pages made up of *survey results* ... so I guess my advice is that pretty much anything goes, you just have to market it and present it in a format punters are comfortable with.
With your content assets you've built over the years, you should have no trouble making good members areas
Originally posted by cj@Jan 15 2005, 04:00 PM Sabby, lots of good points here ... I would also support the 'regular updates are better than bulk content', however you have to look at whether you have a trial, what your retention from the trial is etc.
If you have content that updates every day, you have to make sure that the customer who signed up *today* can see that you have updated X times this week ... with our celeb sites, we have an updates block on our front page of members that lists the last week of updates, and a 'more' page that catalogues every update we ever made.
I can't stress enough how important it is to present content creatively & to build 'time wasters' ... ie, turn a bunch of pics of yourself into jigsaws or, maybe with your style of site, a 'request' line ?
As for pin pointing exactly how many pics & vids ... you could justify a 'paysite' with less than 100 pics, if you presented them & priced it right. Pick up a magazine and count how many pics are in each 'spread' - its usually a 6 page spread, no more than 10 pics, and its about $5 - 7 for a magazine.
I've been working on breaking my members content into 'blocks' and converting it to ebooks -
http://www.purvette.com
1 ebook is made up of about 10 stories, the other 2 have about 15 articles in each.
Purve Models Australia has about 20 'centerfold' pics of varying sizes, 40 small pics of treasure trails and several pages made up of *survey results* ... so I guess my advice is that pretty much anything goes, you just have to market it and present it in a format punters are comfortable with.
With your content assets you've built over the years, you should have no trouble making good members areas
CJ makes a great point about time wasting. I kind of look at a website like a trip to Ikea. The greatest traffic managers I have ever seen. They guide you along, but allow you to explore and discover interesting little things in nooks and crannies. When you get half way through, you can rest and get a bite at their coffee shop and consider your purchases. As you get closer to the end of their "tour", there is lots of little things that you can fit in the space you have left in your trolley. The longer you stay, the more you spend. And when you get to the end....you can load up with tea lights which is the excuse you used for coming to Ikea in the first place...to save money. LOL.
The funny thing is that Ikea has trained a whole generation of people to think they are enjoying themselves spending money in their stores. Brilliant.
They guide you along, but allow you to explore and discover interesting little things in nooks and crannies. When you get half way through, you can rest and get a bite ..... As you get closer to the end of their "tour", there is lots of little things that you can fit in the space you have left in your trolley. The longer you stay, the more you spend.....
Originally posted by cj@Jan 15 2005, 07:00 PM Sabby, lots of good points here ... I would also support the 'regular updates are better than bulk content', however you have to look at whether you have a trial, what your retention from the trial is etc.
If you have content that updates every day, you have to make sure that the customer who signed up *today* can see that you have updated X times this week ... with our celeb sites, we have an updates block on our front page of members that lists the last week of updates, and a 'more' page that catalogues every update we ever made.
I can't stress enough how important it is to present content creatively & to build 'time wasters' ... ie, turn a bunch of pics of yourself into jigsaws or, maybe with your style of site, a 'request' line ?
As for pin pointing exactly how many pics & vids ... you could justify a 'paysite' with less than 100 pics, if you presented them & priced it right. Pick up a magazine and count how many pics are in each 'spread' - its usually a 6 page spread, no more than 10 pics, and its about $5 - 7 for a magazine.
I've been working on breaking my members content into 'blocks' and converting it to ebooks -
http://www.purvette.com
1 ebook is made up of about 10 stories, the other 2 have about 15 articles in each.
Purve Models Australia has about 20 'centerfold' pics of varying sizes, 40 small pics of treasure trails and several pages made up of *survey results* ... so I guess my advice is that pretty much anything goes, you just have to market it and present it in a format punters are comfortable with.
With your content assets you've built over the years, you should have no trouble making good members areas
good point about timewasters
we took our games off the site thinking no one ever played them...well, we got a bunch of emails about it, so put them back up....the complaints came mainly from long time members who had seen most of our site and played the games between and after seeing the most recent updates...
We also have a huge list of all our updates dating back several months and always have the most recent updates in a table at the top of every main category page in the site
I've even listed plugin updates and members seem to appreciate that as well (I usually do that on a Friday update when I just finished a full set update for Thursday's update and want to wait until the Monday update to start a new full set and/or a new model)
we're also adding things like a Coming Soon page to give a sneak preview of coming updates...
yeha id agree on the outtakes part because as someone who is relatively new to adult ( a year or so ) and having seen a reality cash porn shoot at internext and seen the girls giggling and one farting on the other for fun .. things like that .. personal side to things made me feel more like it was less business that they were doing and more enjoyment and fun ... always good when the guard is let down aswell the surfer feels like he gets to know the actors that little bit more than the 0 faces
Hahaha Oh that reminds me of the cam show me and Angel Lee did for a guy once...
I fucked her in the ass with a turkey baster and I must have gotten some air up there cause about 10 minutes later she farted in my face really loud while I was licking her.
That was sooooooooo fucking funny, we both laughed so hard we had tears runing down our face.
They guy stayed for almost an hour after that and said it was the funniest private he had ever had and had been a member for 5 years. He changed his chat name to WindyLee every time he comes in Angel's room now, LOL.
Sabby
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Originally posted by Sabby@Jan 16 2005, 11:55 AM Hahaha Oh that reminds me of the cam show me and Angel Lee did for a guy once...
I fucked her in the ass with a turkey baster and I must have gotten some air up there cause about 10 minutes later she farted in my face really loud while I was licking her.
That was sooooooooo fucking funny, we both laughed so hard we had tears runing down our face.
They guy stayed for almost an hour after that and said it was the funniest private he had ever had and had been a member for 5 years. He changed his chat name to WindyLee every time he comes in Angel's room now, LOL.
Sabby
Making note that Sabby doesn't mind being farted on...