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Old 12-29-2005   #1
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Alien and Confucy sitting in a tree.

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Alien does more business than you think. He also knows a few very big people.

Not trying to get in the middle, just saying...
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It doesn't matter how much biz he gets, or who he knows imho, when you spend almost every waking moment in the public eye acting the way he acts it WILL hurt future biz, and truth be told you can only live so long off old clients and a few big ppl.

I used to give him the benifit of the doubt and wrote it all off as a marketing / branding idea gone wrong, but as time progressed I think I was wrong.

Trolling is one thing, stirring shit is one thing, but constantly fighting loosing battles is another thing all together, it's a shame too, he does have a good head on at least on the phone, and I do like some of his designs.

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Alien does more business than you think. He also knows a few very big people.

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Yeah, but you gotta admit his posts are often like watching a retard hump a door knob.
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He is fighting with Gonzo. Who cares?

I know his client list pretty well, he sells design work and content to one of the largest paysite guys in the industry to date, as well as many others. Period.

I don't care what anyone says about the guy, he encourages it, as does your pal, but lets at least keep the facts straight as well as consistent.
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fighting with Gonzo is not what I was reffering to, I find alot of humor with that one actualy.

I was reffering to the countless "Take me serious" posts, followed by just utter mind-numbing posts. He publicly announced on gfy a few weeks ago that he was looking for work, needed work, wanted to rep a company, then the sec someone called him broke he went right back to the name dropping, self indulged dribble as always, yet he still wants people to respect him and take him serious, THATS the loosing battle in which I speak of.

The comment he made about DA still has me laughing.

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He is fighting with Gonzo. Who cares?

I know his client list pretty well, he sells design work and content to one of the largest paysite guys in the industry to date, as well as many others. Period.

I don't care what anyone says about the guy, he encourages it, as does your pal, but lets at least keep the facts straight as well as consistent.
Dude, we should setup some sort of Special Olympics for both of 'em in Vegas.

My retard can beat your retard!

I'll back Gonzo's play at either doughnut eating or belly bucking. You bring Alien. Loser buys dinner at Delmonico.
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fighting with Gonzo is not what I was reffering to, I find alot of humor with that one actualy.

I was reffering to the countless "Take me serious" posts, followed by just utter mind-numbing posts. He publicly announced on gfy a few weeks ago that he was looking for work, needed work, wanted to rep a company, then the sec someone called him broke he went right back to the name dropping, self indulged dribble as always, yet he still wants people to respect him and take him serious, THATS the loosing battle in which I speak of.

The comment he made about DA still has me laughing.

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Well, I didn't read all the threads or even much of them. I saw people laughing at his income, I just commented on that specifically...I find humor in him and Gonzo fighting as well, so I would say we are actually on the same page
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Dude, we should setup some sort of Special Olympics for both of 'em in Vegas.

My retard can beat your retard!

I'll back Gonzo's play at either doughnut eating or belly bucking. You bring Alien. Loser buys dinner at Delmonico.
Funniest fucking post ever.
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Well, I didn't read all the threads or even much of them. I saw people laughing at his income, I just commented on that specifically...I find humor in him and Gonzo fighting as well, so I would say we are actually on the same page
I would concur, then give ya a quick Alien recap lol

"I am going to become a proffesional Troll"
"I MADE Darren Austen a radio star by coaching him" <-- my fav
"I Compare 1 company with another not knowing they are publicly the same company, yet even after finding out I will not change the way I mention them"
"I claim one of the biggest programs on the net are 2nd, and just steal from other companies"
"I spell for shit" <--- I'm guilty of this one but to my knowledge I don't go around pushing my brain around lol
"Everyone tries to copy GFY or make their own board"
"um come to my board"
"Now i'm siding with Confuckey"

The list goes on and on but after awhile the funny wears off and it just gets annoying

and for the record most of that all came from one thread lol,

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alien is a moron, plain and simple...I don't care if he does work with porndollar all the time or if he does work for larry flynt himself

he obviously doesn't work that much, otherwise he wouldn't have been begging for work/money on gfy...I have had my share of hard times, but even in the hardest of times I don't need handouts or beg for work, I just kick ass and do it without having to beg

there is a new breed of adult webmaster/company approaching, and I hate to say it, but people like Alien won't be around, or welcome, when that day arrives..he is constantly digging holes, and eventually he will bury himself
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and yet, were still giving him 'press' by talking about him, so if ya think about it, who's realy to blame? him for being a 'retard' or us for fueling his fires?

no matter how retarded you gotta admit it's good marketing, even if it is a bit convoluted lol, but your dead ass right Jace, it will only hurt him in the end, and for someone who works so damn much how does he manage to post soooo much???

Thats the entire reason I vanish for months at a time, I'm WORKING lol, I can't make content, run the affils, do work for AEBN, make new sites and promo tools AND be a post whore all at the same time lol

Oh then there's my mainstream shit

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I cant wait to see the site he's designing around confucy: crazycatlady.com

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Of all the morons at GFY, very few people have achieved status as being on my personal "ignore list". Among them, three versions of Lawrence Connor and Alien. (Hmm, in fact, that's half the list.) So with the great, grand and long list of myriad Zoo fucktards, it really takes a lot for me to add someone there. Alien is one of those rare folks who has managed to achieve that "distinction".

Hell, even Brad and Confucy have been known to say something remotely relevant or amusing in one in a thousand posts!
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jace i dont think corys talking about porndollar
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This is pretty amusing. I hope when someone mentions my name, they don't use the "He knows a few very big people." to attempt to help me appear successful.

If this was the basis of success, KB would be Donald Trump.

Alien is a nice guy, who has some artistic talent, but he is NUTS, he has always been NUTS, and will probably always be NUTS.

Anyone who pays attention to him, or relies on him does so at his own detriment.
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This is pretty amusing. I hope when someone mentions my name, they don't use the "He knows a few very big people." to attempt to help me appear successful.

If this was the basis of success, KB would be Donald Trump.

Alien is a nice guy, who has some artistic talent, but he is NUTS, he has always been NUTS, and will probably always be NUTS.

Anyone who pays attention to him, or relies on him does so at his own detriment.
Im just wondering which competition its going to be at the Retard Challenge...
Donuts? Belly Bucking? or hell

Maybe a cannonball contest!

Oh wait... thats already been done but renamed to a bellyflop.

Whoever came up with that idea is a fucking genius!
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I am always amazed at personalities on some boards - that it isnt enough as to who has the biggest dick.. but now its who can piss the furtherest with it.

Some of the greatest creative minds were extreme in how they treated people - I usually try to look for the best in people and avoid the drama that goes along with them
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jace i dont think corys talking about porndollar
which is why I added the "work for larry flynt himself" part
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This is pretty amusing. I hope when someone mentions my name, they don't use the "He knows a few very big people." to attempt to help me appear successful.

If this was the basis of success, KB would be Donald Trump.

Alien is a nice guy, who has some artistic talent, but he is NUTS, he has always been NUTS, and will probably always be NUTS.

Anyone who pays attention to him, or relies on him does so at his own detriment.
He has several paying accounts, Porndollar is one of them. Brand0n was right, a much larger one is unnamed in this thread. Not about who he knows, but who actually pays the guy. I responded to one point of contention: He was called out as a nobody who doesn't make any money. I just argue it may not be true in relative terms. Gonzo possibly underestimated him by placing Aliean beneath him income wise? I don't do the board arguing gig, so I am really not an expert in the category of which board persona earns more though.
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I dont care what he makes.
The only income I am concerned with is my own.
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I wish many more had that attitude.
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The only income I am concerned with is my own.
Hopefully that is true. He is actually a nice guy, you would probably do ok just being cordial to the guy.

But hell I am a "wus," and we all know that restraint is a sign of unintelligence.
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I've talked to Alien quite a few times on icq and he is totally differnet there than he is on the boards... Yet time and again I tell him to stop harassing people on the boards and just do his business, guess he likes digging his own professional grave. So be it
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Hopefully that is true. He is actually a nice guy, you would probably do ok just being cordial to the guy.

But hell I am a "wus," and we all know that restraint is a sign of unintelligence.

Not true, cory many in the indusrty are " wussies" but they are still very sharp.

Alien needs to realize this is the ADULT business, and he sould act like an adult.
if you really wantto help you friend then remind him of that.

if it is not important to him then that is his perogative, and since he is doing so great, he should not care what anyone thinks, or does he need someone else to remind everyone he is successful does he?

High school is over around here. we are taking business to the priority in 2006. those interested atre welcomed, those that are not, can stay where they are. cause at teh end of the day a true businessman does not care what the other guy is making or no making or who he "" knows " or doesn't

If Alien is doing business for the POPE himself good for Alien, he should be happy and not always looking for something to piss about with people.

people in this industry are tired of the pissing it has out stayed it's welcome and business people no longer do it. plain and simple.
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Not true, cory many in the indusrty are " wussies" but they are still very sharp.

Alien needs to realize this is the ADULT business, and he sould act like an adult.
if you really wantto help you friend then remind him of that.

if it is not important to him then that is his perogative, and since he is doing so great, he should not care what anyone thinks, or does he need someone else to remind everyone he is successful does he?

High school is over around here. we are taking business to the priority in 2006. those interested atre welcomed, those that are not, can stay where they are. cause at teh end of the day a true businessman does not care what the other guy is making or no making or who he "" knows " or doesn't

If Alien is doing business for the POPE himself good for Alien, he should be happy and not always looking for something to piss about with people.

people in this industry are tired of the pissing it has out stayed it's welcome and business people no longer do it. plain and simple.
Are we all being honest?

I would love to respond to this, however I should likely just chalk this up as my last post here. haha
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Are we all being honest?

I would love to respond to this, however I should likely just chalk this up as my last post here. haha
do whatever you wish Cory. Oprano survived long before you and will live long after you . if the last post comment is a threat of some sort. if you want to come and do business then please come back.

if you want to come and hold some sort of grudge then go where you feel you can most help your business and hold that grudge.

that dog will not hunt here any longer .
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do whatever you wish Cory. Oprano survived long before you and will live long after you . if the last post comment is a threat of some sort. if you want to come and do business then please come back.

if you want to come and hold some sort of grudge then go where you feel you can most help your business and hold that grudge.

that dog will not hunt here any longer .
Haha

Man, what are you talking about? I have no issue with this place in general, we opened up an advertising account here.

Fact is, everything you stated about Alien (albeit true or not), can be projected on Gonzo just as easily. I don't "threaten" people. Gonzo made threats on GFY, look inward for the answers man.

The last post comment was sarcasm based around saying what I think being the fuel for all kinds of ramblings, most of which I do not partake in. I don't hold grudges. Nick and Anthony didn't exactly like me at first, but I would say it is fair to say that I really get along with them now.
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Man, what are you talking about? I have no issue with this place in general, we opened up an advertising account here.

Fact is, everything you stated about Alien (albeit true or not), can be projected on Gonzo just as easily. I don't "threaten" people. Gonzo made threats on GFY, look inward for the answers man.

The last post comment was sarcasm based around saying what I think being the fuel for all kinds of ramblings, most of which I do not partake in. I don't hold grudges. Nick and Anthony didn't exactly like me at first, but I would say it is fair to say that I really get along with them now.
well pull up a chair and enjoy your stay then. and welcome to the NEW Oprano.
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Man, what are you talking about? I have no issue with this place in general, we opened up an advertising account here.

Fact is, everything you stated about Alien (albeit true or not), can be projected on Gonzo just as easily. I don't "threaten" people. Gonzo made threats on GFY, look inward for the answers man.

The last post comment was sarcasm based around saying what I think being the fuel for all kinds of ramblings, most of which I do not partake in. I don't hold grudges. Nick and Anthony didn't exactly like me at first, but I would say it is fair to say that I really get along with them now.
I hear you - after 10 years you tend to build up enemies who never met you in person but take offense to posts etc. that have your name on it. I try to speak well of people even if they hate me - and those that simply have an atttitude that is negative no matter what, I tend not to recommend them or have any business dealings at all...

I am 44 - and figure I have another 44 years of good life in me, Im not going to spend that in arguments and negativity. I have a great job, awesome wife who is the hottest around and a happy life = why interrupt that with useless small minded people who feel they need to bash everything and everyone to get recognized? I have more than enough friends in this industry to really care and get concerned
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back stabbing? I think not, lets go back over what I have said here....

Post #3 "It doesn't matter how much biz he gets, or who he knows imho, when you spend almost every waking moment in the public eye acting the way he acts it WILL hurt future biz, and truth be told you can only live so long off old clients and a few big ppl.

I used to give him the benifit of the doubt and wrote it all off as a marketing / branding idea gone wrong, but as time progressed I think I was wrong.

Trolling is one thing, stirring shit is one thing, but constantly fighting loosing battles is another thing all together, it's a shame too, he does have a good head on at least on the phone, and I do like some of his designs."

Post #6 "fighting with Gonzo is not what I was reffering to, I find alot of humor with that one actualy.

I was reffering to the countless "Take me serious" posts, followed by just utter mind-numbing posts. He publicly announced on gfy a few weeks ago that he was looking for work, needed work, wanted to rep a company, then the sec someone called him broke he went right back to the name dropping, self indulged dribble as always, yet he still wants people to respect him and take him serious, THATS the loosing battle in which I speak of.

The comment he made about DA still has me laughing." <--- And it was the thread involving your DA comment that made me just say forget it.

I cannot try and defend someone who time and time again does the same shit, the deffinition of insanity is "doing the same thing over and over thinking the outcome will change"

Also when EVEN AFTER we talked on icq that night about Xobile and Ohmobile, when I reminded you who Xobile was and why I could nor would I jump to the defence of a company I knew nothing about and at the same time bash a company I work for. you went in and started bashing on my company, it boils down to that old adage "nothing personal Just biz"

the worst thing is what like a year ago you wanted to do a tie in with Gonzo & I and you never showed up to meet him, then after that you two have been having your "tifts" on gfy. that comes back on me, as I pushed for that, again "Nothing personal Just biz"

When I defended you time and time again telling people you were diff off the boards, and actualy were not a moron, (you know the same shit I said here) and told you allthough it was funny you realy needed to chill it out, then the last threads and attacking the company I work for?

so yeah in your own words:

"I think ya really screwed yerself.
Have a good life."

Don't see how but what ever, this is busniess, and if it's going to hurt mine to keep trying to stick up for you then I can't keep doing it, read all my posts here, theres no backstabbing, I don't work that way and you damn well know that.

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Well I am a master of wasting my time, and since at this sec I have nothing better to do, lemme ask what is the point of out and out lying about events you know nothing about on GFY, that other people may know the truth about?

If you do it JUST to get called out on it, whats the point?

there are two kinds of attention, good and bad, and trust me there is a difference, even though a big majority of webmasters don't agree with that statement.

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I hear you - after 10 years you tend to build up enemies who never met you in person but take offense to posts etc. that have your name on it. I try to speak well of people even if they hate me - and those that simply have an atttitude that is negative no matter what, I tend not to recommend them or have any business dealings at all...
you sir, are a rarity

I try and do the same, but it doesn't always work

but I do however try and not take the boards too seriously, when I meet board people in real life I usually am very nice and cordial, until they give me a real life reason not to be
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i used to not think that, but after being on GFY for some time, what you just typed is MORE than obvious
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^ ^ and yet alot of people just don't get it????

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I feel a change in the wind, and we aim to make it happen here.
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this thread stinks even more now lol

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"Reality" TV rots your brain, and is some of the most idiotic stuff ever broadcast as "entertainment". It also draws huge ratings.

So I guess it shouldn't be surprising that a thread started with a childish idiotic 2nd grade chant aimed at two people who probably share a record for being on the most user's "ignore" list would draw around 400 page views in 24 hours on a board that was virtually dead 3 days ago.
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You said that just to hurt my feelings since you know that's my shameful vice
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Did you know Fox has an entire Reality station now on direct-Tv?

amazing, and my fav part is they show Cops, like 6 times a day on it lol

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